Coronavirus - Self isolation - Tips

[Onelife]

There was a report, with photograph, on a Facebook page for Lymington, of an elderly woman who queue jump charged the security arrangements controlling entry to a local supermarket, and barged inside. Once inside she pushed people out of the way and if anyone remonstrated with her she coughed at them deliberately and was abusive. I despair at what sort of country we have become.

I do have some sympathy small businesses such as drain cleaners, gardeners, car valeting, who work outside. Unless they get too close to their customers then there can surely be no risk, and they need to work.

Similarly if our daughter 6 miles away manages to get us the eggs, and flour etc., which we need, then I will drive over to pick them up from her doorstep. However I heard yesterday that the chief constable of Dorset will arrest anyone for driving their car unnecessarily. The precautions are good, but we shouldn't become a jobsworth's paradise as a result. I surely cant infect anyone sitting in my car with the windows up? Can I? Perhaps we've all got to stop breathing.

Hi Frank,

I'm sure you won't mind if i disagree with you....Drain cleaners..there were two of them, both of whom were clearing and lifting the drain cover together. Gardeners....they'll be touching garden gates, hoses etc. Car valeting...would you really want your car to be valeted knowing what could be left behind?

We are all having to take a hit whether that be reduced wages (Gov subsidised) or loss in our pension pots...another 769 people have die in Spain this last 24 hours.....we should all get real and understand that stopping the spread is the only way to reduce fatalities...one person can infect thousands!!!

Regards

Keith

Boris...has just tested positive for Coronavirus

[Manoverboard]

Boris...has just tested positive for Coronavirus

I am sorry to hear that especially as his partner is pregnant, or so I believe.

As for drains … they are surely a vital part of life as anybody who has been flooded out with sewage would tell you, regular cleaning prevents diseases like cholera spreading through the population.

It takes two people to safely lift a manhole cover I would have thought

[Stephen]

They do, a green one @ £37 a year or £32 if paid by direct debit or online, collected roughly from March to October. As our recycling centre is only a mile away I'm happy to nip it down there in the car.

As you live in the posh south Stephen, I take it that to compost is greeted with a "OH my God, WHAT are you doing, it's not the done thing here, you'll make the place look like Norfolk".
Git yerself a compost heap bor, an merk you some muck.

It wouldn't rot down quick enough. Besides, we have the house prices to think about

[Onelife]

Boris...has just tested positive for Coronavirus

I am sorry to hear that especially as his partner is pregnant, or so I believe.

As for drains … they are surely a vital part of life as anybody who has been flooded out with sewage would tell you, regular cleaning prevents diseases like cholera spreading through the population.

It takes two people to safely lift a manhole cover I would have thought

Hi Mob...l'm no expert on drains or flood management but l rather suspect it is the inadequatis drain system to volume of water that is the main problem of flooding...just saying.

l hear the health secretary has also tested positive

[Frank Manning]

Keith, I'm sorry but I still dont get it where a gardener working alone shouldn't carry on. If our farmers can appeal for people to pick fruit and veg in the fields or in polytunnels. This morning on TV a doctor said that if people dont get close enough to inhale droplets and if after touching things you wash hands thoroughly it should be fine.

Oh well, we shall see. I'm sorry Matt Hancock is ill. I watched him in the Commons and I was quite impressed. Boris was inviting cross contamination when the Commons suspended, some of them including Boris were not 6inches apart as they filed out. At least Sue is keeping me under control.

[Onelife]

Keith, I'm sorry but I still dont get it where a gardener working alone shouldn't carry on. If our farmers can appeal for people to pick fruit and veg in the fields or in polytunnels. This morning on TV a doctor said that if people dont get close enough to inhale droplets and if after touching things you wash hands thoroughly it should be fine.

Oh well, we shall see. I'm sorry Matt Hancock is ill. I watched him in the Commons and I was quite impressed. Boris was inviting cross contamination when the Commons suspended, some of them including Boris were not 6inches apart as they filed out. At least Sue is keeping me under control.

Hi Frank......send me one of your fantastic paintings and l'll agree with anything you say

[Manoverboard]

... At least Sue is keeping me under control.

Has she told you to get your flour from a flour mill ?

[Frank Manning]

Re the flour. Christchurch Waitrose had small bags which our son in law bought for us, and M&S had chicken. There are a couple of flour mills not far away, but they are satisfying existing orders. We will hang on for a couple of weeks now and see if things improve in the supermarkets in this area.

[Stephen]

If you own a iPad and like jigsaws check out 'Jigsaw Puzzle Collection HD' on you App Store. It's free

Should keep you occupied for a little while

[Onelife]

Its accepted that the old and those with underlying conditions are more susceptible to the coronavirus, but there is also some evidence that suggests more exposure to the virus the worse the symptoms ? Over six thousand Italian medical staff have been tested positive with over 45 of them succumbing to the virus. Now I may be over thinking this but none of us know where this is going to end up... regarding infections/deathrates.

Two, five, ten months down the line we could be fighting the same battle?...with this in mind l was wondering if perhaps some research ( if not already being done) should be trialled into  “very low dose” exposure to the virus...crazy I hear you say, but hear me out. This could be done on a voluntary basis with young healthy individuals being  monitored  to see if small dose exposure allows the body to build up resistance better than if exposed to higher dose exposure.
If this proves to be the case then there could be a controlled program of low dose exposure (heard imunity) to those most at risk (essential worker) Whilst l accept this won't sit comfortably with many, however, it is something l would consider if we were heading into the many thousands of deaths with no sign of a vacine in sight.

Any volunteers?

[Stephen]

I think I'd want more than £3,500

https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/09/people-p ... -12370003/

[johnds]

l was wondering if perhaps some research ( if not already being done) should be trialled into  “very low dose” exposure to the virus...crazy I hear you say, but hear me out. This could be done on a voluntary basis with young healthy individuals being  monitored  to see if small dose exposure allows the body to build up resistance better than if exposed to higher dose exposure.
If this proves to be the case then there could be a controlled program of low dose exposure (heard imunity) to those most at risk (essential worker)

But isn't that very much what a vaccine does?

[Stephen]

I believe the trials are doing exactly that John.

[JoanneB]

If it helps there is another number that came in the email I got from Sainsburys, they identified us as vulnerable, lord knows how, and so far we have got a slot last week & today for Monday. They seem to release only one day at a time. I called the number always busy tried at 9.47pm got into a queue and it was answered at 11.10pm. But very helpful.

this was from the email

How will it work?
You can log on to our website or app on Monday to book a slot online as normal. We'll send you an email to let you know when slots are open. Be sure to book your delivery slot before the end of the day on Monday.
If you can't get one straight away, please keep trying. We'll make more slots available throughout the day where possible.
Please bear in mind that you'll be able to make a maximum of one order per week.
Delivery Pass customers
If you've got a Delivery Pass, you'll have received an email about that too. Now you're on our vulnerable customer list, you should follow the guidance in this email instead.
What to do if you need more help
Please call our dedicated vulnerable customer line on 0800 052 5500. Our Customer Care Team will be on hand to help you.

[Onelife]

l was wondering if perhaps some research ( if not already being done) should be trialled into  “very low dose” exposure to the virus...crazy I hear you say, but hear me out. This could be done on a voluntary basis with young healthy individuals being  monitored  to see if small dose exposure allows the body to build up resistance better than if exposed to higher dose exposure.
If this proves to be the case then there could be a controlled program of low dose exposure (heard imunity) to those most at risk (essential worker)

But isn't that very much what a vaccine does?

Hi John,

Yes the principal is the same other than to say what l am suggesting is to use a live virus in the absence of a tested as yet unavailable vaccine.which are sometimes dead vaccines when inoculated.

[Manoverboard]

If it helps there is another number that came in the email I got from Sainsburys, they identified us as vulnerable, lord knows how …

If you have a Sainsbury Bank Card the application would contain your DOB …. is my theory.

[screwy]

Its accepted that the old and those with underlying conditions are more susceptible to the coronavirus, but there is also some evidence that suggests more exposure to the virus the worse the symptoms ? Over six thousand Italian medical staff have been tested positive with over 45 of them succumbing to the virus. Now I may be over thinking this but none of us know where this is going to end up... regarding infections/deathrates.

Two, five, ten months down the line we could be fighting the same battle?...with this in mind l was wondering if perhaps some research ( if not already being done) should be trialled into  “very low dose” exposure to the virus...crazy I hear you say, but hear me out. This could be done on a voluntary basis with young healthy individuals being  monitored  to see if small dose exposure allows the body to build up resistance better than if exposed to higher dose exposure.
If this proves to be the case then there could be a controlled program of low dose exposure (heard imunity) to those most at risk (essential worker) Whilst l accept this won't sit comfortably with many, however, it is something l would consider if we were heading into the many thousands of deaths with no sign of a vacine in sight.

Any volunteers?

You wern't head of research at Porton Down by chance..

[Manoverboard]

You wern't head of research at Porton Down by chance..

Watership Down I heard

[screwy]

Thought it was Covid-19 not Myxomatosis.

[Stephen]

Thought it was Covid-19 not Myxomatosis.

[Onelife]

Thought it was Covid-19 not Myxomatosis.

[Onelife]

Oh gawd...260 more deaths in the UK..so

[Gill W]

Oh gawd...260 more deaths in the UK..so

I think this is the time to brace ourselves, because the next couple of weeks are not going to be very good. Especially as the cases transmitted last weekend when people were acting like was a bank holiday will soon be making themselves known.

On the grocery delivery front, I've registered my husband with Iceland, as the 'elderly person' criteria starts at start pension age, and not 70. However, even though he's in this priority category, there still weren't any delivery slots available.

We'll go to Sainsbury's on Tuesday, and this time, I'm going to disinfect the shopping in the garage, before bringing them into the house.

The risk is clearly growing, but cases round here still seem low. But, I feel it's time for me to put further measures in place.

[Frank Manning]

Staying in now for the duration. Still no more done on my painting, every time I think I will start a little voice cries out "do you think you could help me with this?" Tried to order bird food on RSPB site, all down. Half way through fitting a new handle and lock on bathroom door, Allen key breaks off, then electric drill trips the rcd. Still a lot nicer than lying in hospital gasping for breath, or being trapped on a cruise ship with the virus all around.

[Mervyn and Trish]

Oh gawd...260 more deaths in the UK..so

I think this is the time to brace ourselves, because the next couple of weeks are not going to be very good. Especially as the cases transmitted last weekend when people were acting like was a bank holiday will soon be making themselves known.

On the grocery delivery front, I've registered my husband with Iceland, as the 'elderly person' criteria starts at start pension age, and not 70. However, even though he's in this priority category, there still weren't any delivery slots available.

We'll go to Sainsbury's on Tuesday, and this time, I'm going to disinfect the shopping in the garage, before bringing them into the house.

The risk is clearly growing, but cases round here still seem low. But, I feel it's time for me to put further measures in place.

Shopping at Sainsburys is well organised here. One door for in, one for out. Limiting the number in store and actually no queue outside. And the shelves are filling up slowly. I'll go to the oldies hour on Monday, which reduces the number in before me who might have been coughing and gives the air longer to clear. It'll be gloves on and thorough wash after. And anything we don't need for three days or so can stay in the garage until we need it. Stuff that does have to come in, to the fridge for example, will get disinfected. I've given up on trying to get on the delivery list and to be fair there are a lot of people who need it more than us. Trish is more vulnerable than me so she can stay home.