Current Affairs

[towny44]

Ken, American Airlines were extremely prescient on 6th March, when New York did not in fact impose a lockdown until 20th March. So the USA is not really a good example with which to hammer our govts response.
I cannot criticise any of your other more personal claims but as far as my own reminincenses about the early stages of the outbreak of CV, then Mervs summarising matches my views far more closely than your's. .

[screwy]

In a lighthearted manner, I’m glad the Liverpool game went ahead,they went out of the Champions League that night.

[oldbluefox]

The way things were going following their defeat to Watford ( Mob) it's a pity we showed such poor form at the turn of the year otherwise we could have been in with a chance.

[oldbluefox]

Finally, there is also a fantastic segment of society including construction workers, farmers, delivery drivers, utility workers, shop workers, those that keep the mobile phone system up, those that manage the servers delivering the internet facilities (such as zoom, facebook, twitter, skype, gaming sites, netflix etc. etc) and many many others that currently seem to be forgotten - I applaud them all.

They have certainly not been forgotten Ken. There are many groups on social media who pay tribute to the work they do for our benefit. The Thursday evening 'clap-in' seems to have morphed to include all essential workers.

[Gill W]

On the government's recommendation we went into lockdown on 14th March. The mistake the government made was in not making it compulsory. In fact I would have made it more stringent than it is. There are too many people who are not taking it seriously or simply ignoring it. For so long as people think it does not apply to them the figures will continue to rise and lockdown will last longer. Time to ignore the snowflakes and toughen up. And I agree the sporting events and concerts should never have gone ahead and travel to and from the country should have been cancelled.
In hindsight they should have .................................

I was in a hotel on Saturday 14th March, so we definitely didn’t go into lock down then. It wasn’t until 23rd March that Johnson broadcast to the nation that we were entering full lockdown. I agree that it should have been more stringent, on the lines of Spain or Italy’s lockdown.

[oldbluefox]

I said we went into lockdown on that date. At that time the government were recommending that's what we should do but it wasn't mandatory. It should have been. As I have said previously the government tried to treat us as responsible adults and do it for ourselves. It didn't work...... and even now there are those who ignore it.
Around these parts there were a great number of cancellations. I should have been at an important meeting on 17th March but it was cancelled as were many others. Lockdown around here started long before the government made it official.

[Gill W]

I said we went into lockdown on that date. At that time the government were recommending that's what we should do but it wasn't mandatory. It should have been. As I have said previously the government tried to treat us as responsible adults and do it for ourselves. It didn't work...... and even now there are those who ignore it.
Around these parts there were a great number of cancellations. I should have been at an important meeting on 17th March but it was cancelled as were many others. Lockdown around here started long before the government made it official.

Apologies, when you said ‘we’, I thought you meant ‘we’ as a country.

We came back from my birthday break on 16th March, and apart from food shopping and our daily government sanctioned walk, we have been anywhere or seen anyone. We’re not in the ‘shielded’ category, but we intend to keep ourself distant for quite some time, even if the lockdown begins to lift. We’re not going to hurry out again.

Everyone was shutting up shop during the week beginning 16th March, but, yes, it would have been appropriate to have officially locked down at that point. We had that crazy scenario where they announced the closure of the pubs at the end of the week and everybody rushed out for a last drink, and then the weekend of 21st to 22nd March where everybody was going out treating it like a bank holiday weekend

[Kendhni]

Ken, American Airlines were extremely prescient on 6th March, when New York did not in fact impose a lockdown until 20th March. So the USA is not really a good example with which to hammer our govts response.

I did not say USA, I mentioned only AA which cancelled my flights on 6th March (and refunded me). My Easyjet flight was not cancelled until 21st March.

I cannot criticise any of your other more personal claims but as far as my own reminincenses about the early stages of the outbreak of CV, then Mervs summarising matches my views far more closely than your's. .

Remember that Merv's recount, by self admission, is purely posts on this board, I am looking at a much broader picture based on many sources.

[Kendhni]

According to Ken Pritt Patel makes Diane Abbott look intelligent.? Sorry,no one is capable of that.!

She did a damned fine job in recounting the number
"“Three hundred thousand, thirty four, nine hundred and seventy four thousand”."

[Kendhni]

AS I said in my final comment that day "Now we've cleared that one up let's get back to CV19".

Except you didn't clear it up properly - that is the problem with todays youth, they are very half hearted and selective in their 'clearing up'

[Manoverboard]

The way things were going following their defeat to Watford ( Mob) it's a pity we showed such poor form at the turn of the year otherwise we could have been in with a chance.

Did we really beat Liverpool ....

I still have the recording of the game, used purely for research purposes of course

As an aside, we went into lockdown a week or so before the Government announcement because of two confirmed cases in Poole.

[oldbluefox]

AS I said in my final comment that day "Now we've cleared that one up let's get back to CV19".

Except you didn't clear it up properly - that is the problem with todays youth, they are very half hearted and selective in their 'clearing up'

As far as I am concerned it is cleared up. We were talking about what was written on the side of the bus, something you selectively edited out and ignored in order to make your own point.

I take it your comment about Priti Patel and Diane Abbott was tongue in cheek. There is only one Diane Abbott.

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Stay safe.

[oldbluefox]

The way things were going following their defeat to Watford ( Mob) it's a pity we showed such poor form at the turn of the year otherwise we could have been in with a chance.

Did we really beat Liverpool ....

I still have the recording of the game, used purely for research purposes of course

Did you not mean medicinal?

[Mervyn and Trish]

Whatever hindsight tells us about this clearly it's telling some Americans nothing. While our number of cases in hospital is falling and the numbers of deaths shows some early signs of plateauing, theirs is still rising sharply. But some of them are protesting on the streets demanding an end to lockdown.

[david63]

... and some are more concerned about restrictions to the Second Amendment!

[Quizzical Bob]

I am now almost 69 yr old, throughout my working life I have been a Soldier,Trucker and Prison Officer. I left school with no qualifications. There will be many on here who are undoubtedly cleverer,smarter or whatever you want to call it, I know my limitations. Throughout this crisis I have always believed that the Government will always do the right thing being lead by the Science, now these people really are clever.! So why are there people on here who I doubt have nowhere near the qualifications as these people seem to think they know better and the govt and advisors are incompetent. You know who you are.!

I have plenty of qualifications. I have mingled at the levels of these people that you admire. I know wilful incompetence when I see it.

The Sunday Times is on the case:

https://archive.is/20200418182037/https ... -hq3b9tlgh

[towny44]

I am now almost 69 yr old, throughout my working life I have been a Soldier,Trucker and Prison Officer. I left school with no qualifications. There will be many on here who are undoubtedly cleverer,smarter or whatever you want to call it, I know my limitations. Throughout this crisis I have always believed that the Government will always do the right thing being lead by the Science, now these people really are clever.! So why are there people on here who I doubt have nowhere near the qualifications as these people seem to think they know better and the govt and advisors are incompetent. You know who you are.!

I have plenty of qualifications. I have mingled at the levels of these people that you admire. I know wilful incompetence when I see it.

The Sunday Times is on the case:

https://archive.is/20200418182037/https ... -hq3b9tlgh

Hindsight is of course a wonderful thing QB, but CV has hit Italy, Spain, France and the US equally as badly as it has the UK, and no country has been immune to the PPE shortages, and most have had equal problems with testing. At the worst the govt could be accused of not acting quite as fast as it could, but to suggest they are guilty of wilful incompetence is a bit much even for a rampant Boris hater like you.

[screwy]

I am now almost 69 yr old, throughout my working life I have been a Soldier,Trucker and Prison Officer. I left school with no qualifications. There will be many on here who are undoubtedly cleverer,smarter or whatever you want to call it, I know my limitations. Throughout this crisis I have always believed that the Government will always do the right thing being lead by the Science, now these people really are clever.! So why are there people on here who I doubt have nowhere near the qualifications as these people seem to think they know better and the govt and advisors are incompetent. You know who you are.!

I have plenty of qualifications. I have mingled at the levels of these people that you admire. I know wilful incompetence when I see it.

The Sunday Times is on the case:

https://archive.is/20200418182037/https ... -hq3b9tlgh

Well it would be interesting to see your level of expertise QB, I’m so happy you have lots of qualifications but to what use did you put them..?

[screwy]

The only thing you can believe in the Papers is the date on the front.!

[oldbluefox]

Well it would be interesting to see your level of expertise QB,

No point really. The experts can't agree with each other anyway. Whichever course of action is taken it's as certain as night follows day that the other side will criticise it and will pick flaws. Truth is no course of action will be perfect, mistakes will be made and one lot will gloat over what the other lot has failed on. That's how it always has been. One man's expertise is another man's incompetence. I wonder how many of those who are being critical could have done any better.

[barney]

Anyone else noticed that the same people who couldn’t accept the democratic decision of Brexit cannot accept the democratic result of the last election.
I was chastised by Jack Staff for calling the losers anti democrats but it appears that I was spot on

[oldbluefox]

It never crossed my mind.................
Must admit they have had a bit of a battering what with Brexit, millions spent on the Remain campaign, the fella with the megaphone silenced, their hopes of overturning the 2016 vote dashed, Boris getting a resounding thumbs up in the election. Wouldn't you be a trifle miffed?

[Midlandslass]

Just to change tack slightly, what does everyone think about leaving on the 31st December without a deal?
Of course, if we stay beyond that date the EU will be quick to make us liable for their CV budget of which we will benefit not a jot.
IMHO the sooner we are free of their rules and our liabilities to them the better, trade will always find a way.

[Stephen]

Just to change tack slightly, what does everyone think about leaving on the 31st December without a deal?
Of course, if we stay beyond that date the EU will be quick to make us liable for their CV budget of which we will benefit not a jot.
IMHO the sooner we are free of their rules and our liabilities to them the better, trade will always find a way.

[oldbluefox]

Just to change tack slightly, what does everyone think about leaving on the 31st December without a deal?
Of course, if we stay beyond that date the EU will be quick to make us liable for their CV budget of which we will benefit not a jot.
IMHO the sooner we are free of their rules and our liabilities to them the better, trade will always find a way.

So far the EU, encouraged by a pro Remain government have delayed and delayed in the hope that they could reverse the result of the referendum by one means or another. The sooner we are totally out of the EU the better and I am pleased to hear that in spite of CV19 there will be no extension. That will focus minds since we have had time enough to broker deals.