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screwy
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Re: Current Affairs
Already happened in Singapore,they lifted restrictions and are now going through a second spike.
The calls to open Garden centres etc is a valid call ,however can you imagine the crowds.? Not good .!
The calls to open Garden centres etc is a valid call ,however can you imagine the crowds.? Not good .!
Mel
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Mervyn and Trish
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Others will disagree I'm sure but I thought Boris was magnificent this morning. The others have handled the daily press conference in a factual way but that was oratory. I used to think he was a buffoon. No more.
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screwy
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The Boss is back. This guy has to manage the biggest firm..the country.!
While the cats away......well look out Sir know it all...he’s back.!
While the cats away......well look out Sir know it all...he’s back.!
Mel
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barney
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I have to admit (through gritted teeth) that I also thought that was a pretty good address to the nation and I was particularly pleased that they didn't allow questions from the press.
If we cast our minds back, the main reason given for the lockdown was so that the NHS would not be overwhelmed as it was in Italy and Spain.
Remember, flatten the curve ?
That objective has clearly been achieved and the government should take credit for that.
They have made a few huge errors, but this part has been a success.
There has not been a single patient who has needed to go to the Nightingale hospital in the midlands and many others, but it was there if needed.
So, credit where it is due.
If we cast our minds back, the main reason given for the lockdown was so that the NHS would not be overwhelmed as it was in Italy and Spain.
Remember, flatten the curve ?
That objective has clearly been achieved and the government should take credit for that.
They have made a few huge errors, but this part has been a success.
There has not been a single patient who has needed to go to the Nightingale hospital in the midlands and many others, but it was there if needed.
So, credit where it is due.
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Stephen
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Re: Current Affairs
Mervyn and Trish wrote: 27 Apr 2020, 09:44Others will disagree I'm sure but I thought Boris was magnificent this morning. The others have handled the daily press conference in a factual way but that was oratory. I used to think he was a buffoon. No.more
Agree .
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david63
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Re: Current Affairs
Almost ChurchillianMervyn and Trish wrote: 27 Apr 2020, 09:44Others will disagree I'm sure but I thought Boris was magnificent this morning. The others have handled the daily press conference in a factual way but that was oratory. I used to think he was a buffoon. No.more
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Just to clarify the fullstop between "no" and "more" was a typo I'm unable to edit having only just spotted it. The punctuation does rather alter the sense! Can any Mod maybe remove it please?Mervyn and Trish wrote: 27 Apr 2020, 09:44Others will disagree I'm sure but I thought Boris was magnificent this morning. The others have handled the daily press conference in a factual way but that was oratory. I used to think he was a buffoon. No more
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Mervyn and Trish
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Thanks Foxy. Maybe to avoid confusion you might kindly edit it where quoted in posts 2705 and 2706 and then delete 2707, 2708 and this one? Thanks again. Now back to..... where was I..... oh yes, planning my next excursion to the kitchen for coffee!
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Manoverboard
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He must be 'avin' a laugh ... what did 'is last slave die ofMervyn and Trish wrote: 27 Apr 2020, 11:47Thanks Foxy. Maybe to avoid confusion you might kindly edit it where quoted in posts 2705 and 2706 and then delete 2707, 2708 and this one? Thanks again. Now back to..... where was I..... oh yes, planning my next excursion to the kitchen for coffee!
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CaroleF
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Agree about the speech. Just what was needed. If he does the broadcast later this afternoon I'm sure the big guns in the Media, Laura, Peston etc will have all the questions - When are you going to announce the easing of the lockdown even though he's said not yet.
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Onelife
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I have perhaps been a little more critical than most about the way the Government have handled things and one good speech from Boris won't change my thoughts on this matter. However it's where we go from here that will determine how things pan out. One area of concern l have is the soon to be rolled out tracing app.....This l believe will become a big waste of time as l can't for the life of me see how it can possible be effective when people are under no obligation to download the app. The logistics in manning such a system will imo be thawt with problems, further more when you recive a text message that you've been close to someone infected with Covid are you really going to self isolate until such time that you can get tested? There is also the case that you are exposing yourself to big brother having access to personal information which will stop many from signing up.
I do however think contact tracing has some merit but not until infected cases fall to a level of hundreds rather than thousands.
I think the time and money would be better spent on mass producing automated gel sanitisers which could be placed in such places as car parks, train stations, public place basically every where people frequent....This coupled with the mandatory use of face masks and social distancing would to my mind be a better way of reducing infections until such time that a vaccine can be found.
Btw... did anyone notice that Boris has been on the onelife pinch-an-diet.....The poor chap must have lost at least a stone in weight.
I do however think contact tracing has some merit but not until infected cases fall to a level of hundreds rather than thousands.
I think the time and money would be better spent on mass producing automated gel sanitisers which could be placed in such places as car parks, train stations, public place basically every where people frequent....This coupled with the mandatory use of face masks and social distancing would to my mind be a better way of reducing infections until such time that a vaccine can be found.
Btw... did anyone notice that Boris has been on the onelife pinch-an-diet.....The poor chap must have lost at least a stone in weight.
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david63
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Without doubtOnelife wrote: 27 Apr 2020, 12:19further more when you recive a text message that you've been close to someone infected with Covid are you really going to self isolate until such time that you can get tested?
Given the choice between dying and Big Brother I know which I would go for.Onelife wrote: 27 Apr 2020, 12:19There is also the case that you are exposing yourself to big brother having access to personal information which will stop many from signing up.
And we all know how effective they are on cruise ships!Onelife wrote: 27 Apr 2020, 12:19I think the time and money would be better spent on mass producing automated gel sanitisers which could be placed in such places as car parks, train stations, public place basically every where people frequent
From what I have read the jury is still out on that one - but I suspect that part of the easing of the lockdown will entail the wearing of "face coverings" in some circumstances.
The biggest concern about the app is that there are some (many?) who will use it maliciously saying that they have symptoms when they don't - and these people idiots will be here, there and everywhere in the hope of isolating as many as possible, and thinking that it is great fun and boasting about it on social media.
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Kendhni
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That is the first time I have ever heard Boris sound like a true statesman and someone that is worthy of leading this country. Maybe his stay in hospital has humbled him enough that he has started listening to what people are saying and their concerns instead o fbrushing them off. Long may it continue. I think he now has a chance to restart with a reasonably clean slate - let us see what he does with it.
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Frank Manning
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Sorry Stephen. One swallow doesn't make a summer. Words are not actions, and as we used to say in engineering of some managers " he talks a good game". Raab has been good, Hancock has been harassed. I think Mervyn is a bit OTT with "magnificent".Stephen wrote: 27 Apr 2020, 10:52Mervyn and Trish wrote: 27 Apr 2020, 09:44Others will disagree I'm sure but I thought Boris was magnificent this morning. The others have handled the daily press conference in a factual way but that was oratory. I used to think he was a buffoon. No.more
Agree .
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Manoverboard
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Our Prime Minister surely has to talk a good game ... he is not expected to do it all himself but he has the charismas to get it done .... rather like Brexit don’tcha think ?Frank Manning wrote: 27 Apr 2020, 14:32Sorry Stephen. One swallow doesn't make a summer. Words are not actions, and as we used to say in engineering of some managers " he talks a good game". Raab has been good, Hancock has been harassed. I think Mervyn is a bit OTT with "magnificent".Stephen wrote: 27 Apr 2020, 10:52Mervyn and Trish wrote: 27 Apr 2020, 09:44Others will disagree I'm sure but I thought Boris was magnificent this morning. The others have handled the daily press conference in a factual way but that was oratory. I used to think he was a buffoon. No.more
Agree .
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Stephen
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Frank Manning wrote: 27 Apr 2020, 14:32Sorry Stephen. One swallow doesn't make a summer. Words are not actions, and as we used to say in engineering of some managers " he talks a good game". Raab has been good, Hancock has been harassed. I think Mervyn is a bit OTT with "magnificent".Stephen wrote: 27 Apr 2020, 10:52Mervyn and Trish wrote: 27 Apr 2020, 09:44Others will disagree I'm sure but I thought Boris was magnificent this morning. The others have handled the daily press conference in a factual way but that was oratory. I used to think he was a buffoon. No.more
Agree .
Ill admit I never use like the bloke a Frank, but over time I've warmed to him. Providing he delivers on his 'game talk' I'm happy to support him
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Onelife
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Stephen wrote: 27 Apr 2020, 15:00Frank Manning wrote: 27 Apr 2020, 14:32Sorry Stephen. One swallow doesn't make a summer. Words are not actions, and as we used to say in engineering of some managers " he talks a good game". Raab has been good, Hancock has been harassed. I think Mervyn is a bit OTT with "magnificent".
Ill admit I never use like the bloke a Frank, but over time I've warmed to him. Providing he delivers on his 'game talk' I'm happy to support him![]()
Bring back Theresa l say
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Manoverboard
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Dead right ..... two teas please Miss
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Onelife
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Now l'm really sulking
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Stephen
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.....and a bacon toasty......and don't skimp on the brown sauce .......HP of course.
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Manoverboard
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No you're notOnelife wrote: 27 Apr 2020, 15:30Now l'm really sulking![]()
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Gill W
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Kendhni wrote: 27 Apr 2020, 13:13That is the first time I have ever heard Boris sound like a true statesman and someone that is worthy of leading this country. Maybe his stay in hospital has humbled him enough that he has started listening to what people are saying and their concerns instead o fbrushing them off. Long may it continue. I think he now has a chance to restart with a reasonably clean slate - let us see what he does with it.
There was still a bit too much of the 'war time' references in there for my liking. However, I agreed with the basic message that it's too soon to lift the lockdown.
He also appeared to be saying that there should be an open dialogue about the way forward. If this is true and he keeps to it, I would approve of that as well.
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towny44
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I wonder just how much better off we might be if the govt were to provide a guide path to relaxing the lockdown , especially when it would need to be subject to constant review.
I realise that as we are retired we are not affected in the same way as those working, but I still don't know how these very tentative proposals would ease the concerns of everyone, in fact it is likely to create extra tension between different groups of workers, particularly those at the end of the queue.
I realise that as we are retired we are not affected in the same way as those working, but I still don't know how these very tentative proposals would ease the concerns of everyone, in fact it is likely to create extra tension between different groups of workers, particularly those at the end of the queue.
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Re: Current Affairs
MalnutritionManoverboard wrote: 27 Apr 2020, 11:49He must be 'avin' a laugh ... what did 'is last slave die ofMervyn and Trish wrote: 27 Apr 2020, 11:47Thanks Foxy. Maybe to avoid confusion you might kindly edit it where quoted in posts 2705 and 2706 and then delete 2707, 2708 and this one? Thanks again. Now back to..... where was I..... oh yes, planning my next excursion to the kitchen for coffee!![]()