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oldbluefox wrote: 08 May 2020, 16:53
You mean like this?
Not quite - I actually find that harder to read than just the odd word that is "different"

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david63 wrote: 08 May 2020, 17:37
oldbluefox wrote: 08 May 2020, 16:53
You mean like this?
Not quite - I actually find that harder to read than just the odd word that is "different"
I must be a bit strange then - I had no problem reading that at all :lol:
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Back to the B word. After a 4 yr investigation,charges against Darren Grimes and vote leave by the Police & CPS have been thrown out. Good. The electoral commission is not fit for purpose. No mention on the BBC..!
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Jan Rosser wrote: 08 May 2020, 17:42
david63 wrote: 08 May 2020, 17:37
oldbluefox wrote: 08 May 2020, 16:53
You mean like this?
Not quite - I actually find that harder to read than just the odd word that is "different"
I must be a bit strange then - I had no problem reading that at all :lol:
Not strange at all Jan just blessed with oodles of common sense, I read straight through it as well, with hardly a pause.
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towny44 wrote: 08 May 2020, 18:17
Jan Rosser wrote: 08 May 2020, 17:42
david63 wrote: 08 May 2020, 17:37
Not quite - I actually find that harder to read than just the odd word that is "different"
I must be a bit strange then - I had no problem reading that at all :lol:
Not strange at all Jan just blessed with oodles of common sense, I read straight through it as well, with hardly a pause.
I started reading it an hour ago and I'm still reading it :lol:

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oldbluefox wrote: 08 May 2020, 16:53
You mean like this?
Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn’t mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.
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Jan Rosser wrote: 08 May 2020, 17:42
I must be a bit strange then - I had no problem reading that at all :lol:
Glad I'm not the only one :lol: :wave:
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Back in 1986 I was lucky to be offered a course on academic writing, how to construct a sentence, a paragraph, and later, speed reading. I thoroughly enjoyed it. I often find now, that bad grammar and simple spelling mistakes jar, but there are so many human factors to take into account when people communicate, that as long as you understand what is being said, that is what really matters. After all, "nowt", "ers a", 'baht', colloquialisms, dialect, etc., make our society more colourful.

Later when reading assignments or dissertations, and marking them, there were some mistakes which were just laziness. I still hate 'would of' instead of ' would have' and 'there' instead of 'their'. That is a different though, a student submitting that sort of work, should take the trouble to get it right.

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I work with people from all over the world with all different skill levels in English and many different accents. There are 2 things I learned
- their ability to speak and write English is far superior to my ability to speak or write their language
- comprehension is far more important than pedantry about usage
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I have just been reminded by one gentleman of the problems of dyslexia.. At BU we were taught how to recognise signs of un diagnosed dyslexia. The student could then be sent for a test which if positive,, was flagged up to academic staff so that allowances could be made. It was very important that they were not disadvantaged.

Some students overcame quite significant disadvantages, in a variety of ways. One lad suffered a stroke half way through the second year. The moving thing about his case was that despite lengthy physio and recuperation he had a problem with his right arm. His new girl friend ( two weeks) stood by him through all of this,and he achieved his degree. In such cases people could be employed by the uni to take the lecture notes down for them. To me, although I never met the girl friend, I was impressed by her loyalty. I hope (romantic old so and so that I am) that they are still together.

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Frank Manning wrote: 09 May 2020, 07:28
I have just been reminded by one gentleman of the problems of dyslexia.. At BU we were taught how to recognise signs of un diagnosed dyslexia. The student could then be sent for a test which if positive,, was flagged up to academic staff so that allowances could be made. It was very important that they were not disadvantaged.

Some students overcame quite significant disadvantages, in a variety of ways. One lad suffered a stroke half way through the second year. The moving thing about his case was that despite lengthy physio and recuperation he had a problem with his right arm. His new girl friend ( two weeks) stood by him through all of this,and he achieved his degree. In such cases people could be employed by the uni to take the lecture notes down for them. To me, although I never met the girl friend, I was impressed by her loyalty. I hope (romantic old so and so that I am) that they are still together.

I try and avoid stories such as the one you have just told Frank as l always end up with tears in my eyes....here l go again.

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Message just popped up on my screen to say Boris will recommend face Masks to be worn by all workers

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Today's announcement is that UK nationals arriving by air will face a 14 quarantine but, BBC News understands, lorry drivers transporting goods and shipping workers will be exempt.

How may lorry drivers transporting goods use an airline? And how many shipping workers use an airline?

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I’m pretty sure they mean truck drivers coming in from the continent.Sorry if my gramma isn’t wot it should be.
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david63 wrote: 09 May 2020, 10:37
Today's announcement is that UK nationals arriving by air will face a 14 quarantine but, BBC News understands, lorry drivers transporting goods and shipping workers will be exempt.

How may lorry drivers transporting goods use an airline? And how many shipping workers use an airline?
You're nitpicking David, sounding just like one of the media hacks! ;)
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If people arriving do have Covid 19, maybe with few symptoms, and they have to find their own way home, whether it's by someone picking them up or by public transport, isn't it possible that they could infect people while they are making their way back to their home? If people are told they will have to go into isolation on entering this country shouldn't it mean at the point of entry, not several hours later once they have returned home? I realise that to put everyone arriving into isolation at the arrival point is too expensive and won't happen but unless they are tested on arrival no-one will know whether the person is infectious or not.

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It's imperfect but I guess it's better than nothing. When Madeira introduced a 14 day quaratine on arrivals the number plummeted. It was better enforced than this sounds like it will be, but maybe the threat is enough to put some unnecessary travellers off.

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CaroleF wrote: 09 May 2020, 11:08
If people arriving do have Covid 19, maybe with few symptoms, and they have to find their own way home, whether it's by someone picking them up or by public transport, isn't it possible that they could infect people while they are making their way back to their home? If people are told they will have to go into isolation on entering this country shouldn't it mean at the point of entry, not several hours later once they have returned home? I realise that to put everyone arriving into isolation at the arrival point is too expensive and won't happen but unless they are tested on arrival no-one will know whether the person is infectious or not.
I absolutely agree with you Carol…..I would take it one step further and say no one should be allowed into this country including lorry drives without having had a Covid test 7 days prior to entering our country.

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CaroleF wrote: 09 May 2020, 11:08
If people arriving do have Covid 19, maybe with few symptoms, and they have to find their own way home, whether it's by someone picking them up or by public transport, isn't it possible that they could infect people while they are making their way back to their home? If people are told they will have to go into isolation on entering this country shouldn't it mean at the point of entry, not several hours later once they have returned home? I realise that to put everyone arriving into isolation at the arrival point is too expensive and won't happen but unless they are tested on arrival no-one will know whether the person is infectious or not.
This topic has been discussed on the daily briefings and the expert's consensus is that, unless the passenger deliberately travelled knowing they had symptoms, then, even for a long haul flight time, hardly any would develop symptoms during the flight, so testing is pointless. If they then observe our stay home and social distancing rules, even if they do then develop symptoms, they will have been no worse a spreader than anyone else.
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Onelife wrote: 09 May 2020, 11:28
without having had a Covid test 7 days prior to entering our country.
And what would that prove apart from someone proving positive/negative on that day - it certainly would not prove that they were free from Covid19 when the arrived.

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david63 wrote: 09 May 2020, 11:34
Onelife wrote: 09 May 2020, 11:28
without having had a Covid test 7 days prior to entering our country.
And what would that prove apart from someone proving positive/negative on that day - it certainly would not prove that they were free from Covid19 when the arrived.
Now on this we are in accord.
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david63 wrote: 09 May 2020, 11:34
Onelife wrote: 09 May 2020, 11:28
without having had a Covid test 7 days prior to entering our country.
And what would that prove apart from someone proving positive/negative on that day - it certainly would not prove that they were free from Covid19 when the arrived.
I would have thought David that if they were required to have a covid test 7 days before entering our country “with documentation” then by the time they entered our country they would or wouldn’t be showing signs of Covid…a little reassurance can’t be a bad thing unless you think testing is a complete wast of time?
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Onelife wrote: 09 May 2020, 12:10
david63 wrote: 09 May 2020, 11:34
Onelife wrote: 09 May 2020, 11:28
without having had a Covid test 7 days prior to entering our country.
And what would that prove apart from someone proving positive/negative on that day - it certainly would not prove that they were free from Covid19 when the arrived.
I would have thought David that if they were required to have a covid test 7 days before entering our country “with documentation” then by the time they entered our country they would or wouldn’t be showing signs of Covid…a little reassurance can’t be a bad thing unless you think testing is a complete wast of time?
Testing is really only useful in the general population when tracing is fully functioning, until then its main use is in establishing whether NHS and care staff are safe to work.
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towny44 wrote: 09 May 2020, 12:14
Onelife wrote: 09 May 2020, 12:10
david63 wrote: 09 May 2020, 11:34
And what would that prove apart from someone proving positive/negative on that day - it certainly would not prove that they were free from Covid19 when the arrived.
I would have thought David that if they were required to have a covid test 7 days before entering our country “with documentation” then by the time they entered our country they would or wouldn’t be showing signs of Covid…a little reassurance can’t be a bad thing unless you think testing is a complete wast of time?
Testing is really only useful in the general population when tracing is fully functioning, until then its main use is in establishing whether NHS and care staff are safe to work.
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Onelife wrote: 09 May 2020, 12:10
I would have thought David that if they were required to have a covid test 7 days before entering our country “with documentation” then by the time they entered our country they would or wouldn’t be showing signs of Covid
So if a person was tested seven days ago and found to not be infected (two days later) what happens if they contract the virus the day after? They may not show any signs but they could be infectious but have a piece of paper saying that they are OK.

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