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screwy wrote: 10 May 2020, 12:26
Loads of cars turned up at Ainsdale beach yesterday,just what is it people don’t get.? At the beginning the government asked us to be sensible that didn’t work so introduced a ‘soft’ lock down,that’s obviously not working,. Hacks then start spouting the lockdown wasn’t hard enough from the beginning but were also spouting civil liberties. Brits just cannot be trusted, that’s the truth of it.
Just three more weeks and we would have had it cracked....let's hope it isn't a throw away speach tonight. .
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barney wrote: 10 May 2020, 12:06
... I wonder if they have just adhered to the guideline better
That is absolutely the case in our part of Dorset, nobody is going anywhere and every body is helping each other :thumbup:
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barney wrote: 10 May 2020, 12:06
Why are Dorset, Cornwall and Devon in the bottom five for covid contagion?

Compliance to social distancing?

All three counties tend to have an older than average demographic, so logic would dictate more fatalities, not less.

I wonder if they have just adhered to the guideline better
Is it because they have much lower population densities than many other counties?
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towny44 wrote: 10 May 2020, 14:25
Is it because they have much lower population densities than many other counties?
I don't think so, it's cos we're all old buggers who don't want to die just yet. That coupled with the fact that most of us are not part of the mememe brigade and use our instincts and common sense to get through it. We also keep the grockles out as far as is possible ... just like the plague was controlled at Eyam basically.
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The sunny weekend had people traveling long distance, 70 to 80 miles in some cases according to the police, to reach the North Norfolk Coast, with the Chief Constable Simon Bailey saying to the local paper.
'Mr Bailey said it was disappointing some people had taken the false view that the lockdown had been lifted.'
It says to me that most idiots take the word of the red tops as gospel.
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I just can’t see how opening garden centres,if that is the case, will work. People will flock to them no matter how much social distancing I’d deployed.
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According to the ONS last estimated figures for death rates per 100,000 Norwich rated lowest in the country at 4.9 out of a population of 132,000. Surrounding population puts it up to 282,000
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Of the 111 major towns and cities, the highest age-standardised mortality rate was in Salford, with a rate of 112.6 deaths per 100,000 population. The lowest rate was 4.9 deaths per 100,000 population in Norwich.

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screwy wrote: 10 May 2020, 15:12
I just can’t see how opening garden centres,if that is the case, will work. People will flock to them no matter how much social distancing I’d deployed.
If garden centres reopen, I expect it'll be on the same basis as supermarkets. Queues 2m apart outside and a few people allowed in each time. It won't be a leisure shopping activity, just get the stuff you need and come out again.
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Ray B wrote: 10 May 2020, 15:26
According to the ONS last estimated figures for death rates per 100,000 Norwich rated lowest in the country at 4.9 out of a population of 132,000. Surrounding population puts it up to 282,000
From ONS
Of the 111 major towns and cities, the highest age-standardised mortality rate was in Salford, with a rate of 112.6 deaths per 100,000 population. The lowest rate was 4.9 deaths per 100,000 population in Norwich.

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I wondered why I was still alive.

Ray, are you in North Norfolk?

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Apparantly, the stay home message is now being dropped by the Government and we must all now 'Stay Alert'. All I can think of is 'Be Alert. Britain needs Lerts'
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= VERY WEAK SLOGAN :thumbdown:

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It’s absolute tosh

The evidence is that people need to be TOLD what to do, and even then, a minority will ignore.

Stay alert ??

I’m tempted to say @&££@(%$
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barney wrote: 10 May 2020, 16:36
It’s absolute tosh

The evidence is that people need to be TOLD what to do, and even then, a minority will ignore.

Stay alert ??

I’m tempted to say @&££@(%$
Makes more sence than Stay Alert??

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anniec wrote: 10 May 2020, 15:39
Ray B wrote: 10 May 2020, 15:26
According to the ONS last estimated figures for death rates per 100,000 Norwich rated lowest in the country at 4.9 out of a population of 132,000. Surrounding population puts it up to 282,000
From ONS
Of the 111 major towns and cities, the highest age-standardised mortality rate was in Salford, with a rate of 112.6 deaths per 100,000 population. The lowest rate was 4.9 deaths per 100,000 population in Norwich.

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I wondered why I was still alive.

Ray, are you in North Norfolk?

Annie (resident of Norwich)
We have a chalet at Palling, which during the lock down we have stayed away from, like the good boy I am. Just can not believe the nice weather at the coast we have missed, but with the lack of traffic and the airport almost closed it has been like the countryside for peace and quiet.
We are just south of the airport.
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Ray B wrote: 10 May 2020, 17:09

We have a chalet at Palling, which during the lock down we have stayed away from, like the good boy I am. Just can not believe the nice weather at the coast we have missed, but with the lack of traffic and the airport almost closed it has been like the countryside for peace and quiet.
We are just south of the airport.
Keep safe annie.
And I'm about 3 miles east of Norwich and (I think) 4 NDR roundabouts away from you. Lovely and peaceful, isn't it :D

Keep safe and stay away from the N&N.

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Hmm, not sure I enjoyed that.
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My initial thoughts before the clarity of the method is revealed tomorrow…

Too much too soon… but that comes from a man who prefers” Stay at home” (for three more weeks) rather than Stay Alert.

I will be much happier if tomorrow we hear that spot fines for none compliance of social distancing (leisure activities) will increase from the present £60 - £30 if paid within 30 days to £500 - £300 if paid within 30 days…hopefully this will make people Stay Alert.

If one wants to shine a little light down the road, infection rates are falling and many of the deaths (sad as it is) are coming from those already in hospital and those in care homes.

I’ll be looking for more reassurance from Boris tomorrow.


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A great pity he said there was a possibility of restaurants etc. opening up in the summer, plus we can spend all day wandering the countryside passing numerous total strangers, but not a mention of what most of us desperately want: to see our families, albeit socially distanced.


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I think that's right Onelife. Boris didn't really tell us enough tonight for us to draw really meaningful conclusions.

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Nothing Boris said has any impact on me personally - I am abiding by the Welsh Government’s lockdown rules and am happy to do so if it helps to fight this epidemic. I don’t like this idea of being alert - don’t we all know people who haven’t a clue what is going on - can they be trusted to act sensibly - so many have been interpreting the rules to suit themselves - I’m staying home and as much as it’s getting to me I feel safer doing just that.
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Basically it's as you were except that some may be able to go back to work if social distancing rules can be met. Otherwise it's stay at home with a bit of hope if we all do as we are told.
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For weeks the opposition and the media have said tell us the plan and treat us as adults. To my mind that's what I heard this evening. But now the opposition and devolved governments want to be treated as children and stick to being ordered to stay in. As I understand it we now have a plan and an idea of the conditions that have to be met to move to each stage. For us as retired over 70s that means no signifiant change yet.

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I just didn’t like the part when he said ‘ go for a drive’
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screwy wrote: 10 May 2020, 21:22
I just didn’t like the part when he said ‘ go for a drive’
Yes, you can now drive to get to your exercise.

The temperatures will be going up again for next weekend, so expect everybody to be driving to the coast next Saturday and Sunday. Watch out West Country, everyone will be bringing the virus with them.

Also, workers are now expected to go back to work, but shouldn’t go to work by public transport.

Even though you can now drive hundreds of miles for your exercise and share your working space with your colleagues, you still can’t visit your relatives round the corner.

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Basically there was virtually nothing new in there.

Go back to work if it is safe to do so and you cannot work from home - that has always been the case, but some employers have taken a different view.

Go for a drive to take exercise - that has been the case for the last few weeks.

I agree with the concept of "relaxing" the "Stay at home" slogan but not sure that the "Stay alert" one is quite right. You cannot on one hand sat stay at home and then on the other say that you can go back to work or take more exercise outdoors.

To me the measure is right - there has to be some easing up to see what the effect is. If the infection rate does not go up then we can go a bit further, if it does go up then we take a step back.

Whatever he said would be wrong for some. Straight after the broadcast Starmer was criticising it saying that it was not possible for people to go back to work in 12 hours time - where did Boris say that everyone was to go back on Monday morning?

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