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Ray Scully wrote: 22 May 2020, 11:48
CaroleF wrote: 22 May 2020, 11:13
I'm getting fed up with the media questions after the No. 10 Broadcast when all they do is to pick holes and last night someone, can't remember who, asked if the Government were going to apologise for whatever. How is that helping any discussion? Laura seems to get more tight lipped by the day when she can't get an answer to her inane questions. John tells me to switch off after the Minister's bit, he gets fed up with me telling the media people what I think! I get really cross when the media lot includes, Laura, Robert P and the Channel 4 person whose name I can't remember, on the same day. Someone even asked how the Government were going to account for themselves when there was an enquiry after it's all over. Won't the media have a fine time then!
and today the Conservative minded press press is saying that Hancock is for the chop, and publishing Sir Paul Barber's (Nobel prize winner) concerns about the Government's Covid-19 strategy. Couple this with recent policy turnarounds, and our PM seemingly disappearing from view, then perhaps questions DO NEED asking.
If by policy turnround you are referring to the decision to stop charging immigrant worker in the NHS and Care system, the NHS supplement. Then this seems a perfectly reasonable response to proposals from various people that this policy should be changed.
Or do you consider pragmatism in your politicians a weakness.
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In the case of the government doing a U turn on charging immigrant workers in the NHS should we not be celebrating that democracy has worked, that the government has revisited the matter and changed its mind, that the opposition leader has raised a point which caused a rethink or are we more concerned with gloating over the U turn as exemplified by the loathsome Ms Kuennsberg's question yesterday.
Personally I think it is good that the government does listen, does put up its hand when it is wrong and is willing to change tack if it needs to. Admitting you are not always right in my book is a position of strength. To his credit Sir Keith Starmer was very measured in his response to the U turn.
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oldbluefox wrote: 22 May 2020, 12:39
In the case of the government doing a U turn on charging immigrant workers in the NHS should we not be celebrating that democracy has worked, that the government has revisited the matter and changed its mind, that the opposition leader has raised a point which caused a rethink or are we more concerned with gloating over the U turn as exemplified by the loathsome Ms Kuennsberg's question yesterday.
Personally I think it is good that the government does listen, does put up its hand when it is wrong and is willing to change tack if it needs to. Admitting you are not always right in my book is a position of strength. To his credit Sir Keith Starmer was very measured in his response to the U turn.
I’m not so sure I would call it Democracy Foxy…it sounds more like a load of politically motivated goody two shoes playing the “we are the party of fairness card”

Is it fair that immigrant NHS care workers of every description should get refunded £400+ of what is a very reasonable access to a free NHS care ?…I don’t think so….neither do I think the charge should be relaxed for all the other immigrants who are to a more or lesser extent exposed to a Covid working environment….bus driver, porters, mortuary assistants etc… the list is never ending.

If we start going down this line the next thing the labour party will be asking for is an all-expenses paid cruise for them all.

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Onelife wrote: 22 May 2020, 13:53
oldbluefox wrote: 22 May 2020, 12:39
In the case of the government doing a U turn on charging immigrant workers in the NHS should we not be celebrating that democracy has worked, that the government has revisited the matter and changed its mind, that the opposition leader has raised a point which caused a rethink or are we more concerned with gloating over the U turn as exemplified by the loathsome Ms Kuennsberg's question yesterday.
Personally I think it is good that the government does listen, does put up its hand when it is wrong and is willing to change tack if it needs to. Admitting you are not always right in my book is a position of strength. To his credit Sir Keith Starmer was very measured in his response to the U turn.
I’m not so sure I would call it Democracy Foxy…it sounds more like a load of politically motivated goody two shoes playing the “we are the party of fairness card”

Is it fair that immigrant NHS care workers of every description should get refunded £400+ of what is a very reasonable access to a free NHS care ?…I don’t think so….neither do I think the charge should be relaxed for all the other immigrants who are to a more or lesser extent exposed to a Covid working environment….bus driver, porters, mortuary assistants etc… the list is never ending.

If we start going down this line the next thing the labour party will be asking for is an all-expenses paid cruise for them all.

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You're clearly not of a caring nature as me Stephen ;) :lol:

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As for the French Navy escorting illegal immigrants out of French waters, what next? Hiring out inflatables? So at the moment their Navy takes them half way at which point we pick them up and see them safely here. It would be cheaper and safer to stick them all on a ferry.
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Onelife wrote: 22 May 2020, 13:53


Is it fair that immigrant NHS care workers of every description should get refunded £400+ of what is a very reasonable access to a free NHS care ?…I don’t think so….neither do I think the charge should be relaxed for all the other immigrants who are to a more or lesser extent exposed to a Covid working environment….bus driver, porters, mortuary assistants etc… the list is never ending.

If we start going down this line the next thing the labour party will be asking for is an all-expenses paid cruise for them all.

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WOW what a wonderful idea to kick-start the cruise business :)

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oldbluefox wrote: 22 May 2020, 14:42
As for the French Navy escorting illegal immigrants out of French waters, what next? Hiring out inflatables? So at the moment their Navy takes them half way at which point we pick them up and see them safely here. It would be cheaper and safer to stick them all on a ferry.

They won't bring them all the way across in case they get they're white flags all wet :shock: :D
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oldbluefox wrote: 22 May 2020, 14:42
As for the French Navy escorting illegal immigrants out of French waters, what next? Hiring out inflatables? So at the moment their Navy takes them half way at which point we pick them up and see them safely here. It would be cheaper and safer to stick them all on a ferry.
........and send them right back :thumbup: :o

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Just been looking at a chart which shows Coronavirus admissions to hospital are on the increase again :think:

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Onelife wrote: 22 May 2020, 18:23
Just been looking at a chart which shows Coronavirus admissions to hospital are on the increase again :think:
......and the number of tests had increased. Just saying :thumbup:
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oldbluefox wrote: 22 May 2020, 18:36
Onelife wrote: 22 May 2020, 18:23
Just been looking at a chart which shows Coronavirus admissions to hospital are on the increase again :think:
......and the number of tests had increased. Just saying :thumbup:
Wadda coincidence ... who'de thought it :silent:
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oldbluefox wrote: 22 May 2020, 18:36
Onelife wrote: 22 May 2020, 18:23
Just been looking at a chart which shows Coronavirus admissions to hospital are on the increase again :think:
......and the number of tests had increased. Just saying :thumbup:
I think the chart refers to admissions to Hospital after the seven-day self-isolation infection period which has no bearing on tests figures is my understanding?…it had plateaued but it now appears to be on the increase again.

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Beeb must be slipping,didn't hear it on the 6 Oclock news, not like them to miss a trick.
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screwy wrote: 22 May 2020, 19:10
Beeb must be slipping,didn't hear it on the 6 Oclock news, not like them to miss a trick.
I must be talking out of my ar*e again then screwy :)… the chart I was referring to I found on my phone and showed figures for the previous two days not including todays figures.

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Are you sure it wasn't your phone bill?😂😂😂
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oldbluefox wrote: 22 May 2020, 20:05
Are you sure it wasn't your phone bill?😂😂😂
:lol: :lol: :lol: now sod off :sarcasm:

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Actually the chart I saw showed there were appreciably more tests but the number of cases had dropped slightly but I must admit I wasn't paying that much attention so I could well be wrong.
Stop wittering and pay up!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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They're in the post..enjoy! :lol:

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Onelife wrote: 22 May 2020, 18:49
oldbluefox wrote: 22 May 2020, 18:36
Onelife wrote: 22 May 2020, 18:23
Just been looking at a chart which shows Coronavirus admissions to hospital are on the increase again :think:
......and the number of tests had increased. Just saying :thumbup:
I think the chart refers to admissions to Hospital after the seven-day self-isolation infection period which has no bearing on tests figures is my understanding?…it had plateaued but it now appears to be on the increase again.

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And your understanding of why this might be happening, and who is to blame would be ?????
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towny44 wrote: 22 May 2020, 22:00
Onelife wrote: 22 May 2020, 18:49
oldbluefox wrote: 22 May 2020, 18:36

......and the number of tests had increased. Just saying :thumbup:
I think the chart refers to admissions to Hospital after the seven-day self-isolation infection period which has no bearing on tests figures is my understanding?…it had plateaued but it now appears to be on the increase again.

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And your understanding of why this might be happening, and who is to blame would be ?????
Good try John :)

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Onelife wrote: 22 May 2020, 22:16
towny44 wrote: 22 May 2020, 22:00
Onelife wrote: 22 May 2020, 18:49


I think the chart refers to admissions to Hospital after the seven-day self-isolation infection period which has no bearing on tests figures is my understanding?…it had plateaued but it now appears to be on the increase again.

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And your understanding of why this might be happening, and who is to blame would be ?????
Good try John :)
If you are going to pose similar questions to the baying media hacks, then you must be prepared to accept similar treatment. ;)
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towny44 wrote: 22 May 2020, 22:54
Onelife wrote: 22 May 2020, 22:16
towny44 wrote: 22 May 2020, 22:00

And your understanding of why this might be happening, and who is to blame would be ?????
Good try John :)
If you are going to pose similar questions to the baying media hacks, then you must be prepared to accept similar treatment. ;)
Well there's the difference between you and me John....you state things as fact, which are on occassions wrong, whereas I only state things as fact when I know l'm right.

Your response to me does not warrent a reply because l was quoting what l had seen....whether it was factual true or not is another matter.

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towny44 wrote: 22 May 2020, 22:54
If you are going to pose similar questions to the baying media hacks, then you must be prepared to accept similar treatment. ;)
Why do you classify yourself as being one of the ' baying media hacks ' ?
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I see Dominic Cummings head is on the block for breaching the self-isolation rules?…well I don’t know the full story on that so I’m not going to comment but I think we are going down a slippery road when we get politically motivated resignation demands from those who have most to gain by such departures.

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