The privileged part is because we allow you to associate with us, the white male we only have your word forscrewy wrote: 08 Jun 2020, 16:05Could someone please explain to me why i am a Priveliged White Male.?
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Thanks Foxyoldbluefox wrote: 08 Jun 2020, 16:10The current R figure nationally is between 0.7 and 0.9 with two regions, the south west and the north west recording 1.0 and 1.1 so Gill's prediction does not ring true, and since these figures were published only last week neither does her accusation that " they are playing it down now, so they are hoping we will have forgotten about it by June!"
Sorry Gill I think I will stick to Onelife's predictions in future, dodgy though they are.![]()
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Mervyn and Trish
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For goodness sake. I was not scoring points.Gill W wrote: 08 Jun 2020, 15:11I'd hope that you didn't drag up an old post of mine for some sort of points scoring exercise, but it's a good opportunity to review what I said.
I'm not too fussed about Germany, I'm concentrating more on the UK
But since you have decided to "review" what you said I'll give you 0.5 out of 3. R is up slightly in some places, but down in others. The figures weren't mine nor the government's and only provided to illustrate the variation. But cases are significantly down. We've had no new ones in our area for several days. And they've not forgotten about R.
Oh and it was you who raised how Germany were reporting R. Not me. I was giving you the information you sought having seen it at the weekend. Don't bother to thank me. If you're not fussed about other countries I won't answer any future questions you pose. I'll assume they're all rhetorical.
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Gill W
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Merv quoted the current R in his tweet, broken down by region. None of them are 0.7 or 0.8oldbluefox wrote: 08 Jun 2020, 16:10The current R figure nationally is between 0.7 and 0.9 with two regions, the south west and the north west recording 1.0 and 1.1 so Gill's prediction does not ring true, and since these figures were published only last week neither does her accusation that " they are playing it down now, so they are hoping we will have forgotten about it by June!"
Sorry Gill I think I will stick to Onelife's predictions in future, dodgy though they are.![]()
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Mervyn and Trish
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I quoted the Daily Mail's reporting of R. I also reported that there are several ways of measuring it.Gill W wrote: 08 Jun 2020, 16:27Merv quoted the current R in his tweet, broken down by region. None of them are 0.7 or 0.8oldbluefox wrote: 08 Jun 2020, 16:10The current R figure nationally is between 0.7 and 0.9 with two regions, the south west and the north west recording 1.0 and 1.1 so Gill's prediction does not ring true, and since these figures were published only last week neither does her accusation that " they are playing it down now, so they are hoping we will have forgotten about it by June!"
Sorry Gill I think I will stick to Onelife's predictions in future, dodgy though they are.![]()
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I only remember mentioning that the German R had been above 1, but it had reduced. I don’t think I asked questions about itMervyn and Trish wrote: 08 Jun 2020, 16:23For goodness sake. I was not scoring points.Gill W wrote: 08 Jun 2020, 15:11I'd hope that you didn't drag up an old post of mine for some sort of points scoring exercise, but it's a good opportunity to review what I said.
I'm not too fussed about Germany, I'm concentrating more on the UK
But since you have decided to "review" what you said I'll give you 0.5 out of 3. R is up slightly in some places, but down in others. the figures weren't mine nor the government's and only provided to illustrate the variation. But cases are significantly down. We've had no new ones in our area for several days. And they've not forgotten about R.
Oh and it was you who raised how Germany were reporting R. Not me. I was giving you the information you sought having seen it at the weekend. Don't bother to thank me. If you're not fussed about other countries I won't answer any future questions you pose. I'll assume they're all rhetorical.
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I will be astounded if Merv also thinks he does ' tweets ', that's more ' OL ' territory
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Chirpy. Chirpy, cheap! Cheap!Manoverboard wrote: 08 Jun 2020, 16:30I will be astounded if Merv also thinks he does ' tweets ', that's more ' OL ' territory![]()
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Matt Hancock (as quoted in the Independent two days ago) “The overall view of Sage is that the R is between 0.7 and 0.9 and it is higher in the southwest of England and the northwest but it remains below 1 in each area.” Other sources yesterday quoted the R rate in the north west as 1.1.Gill W wrote: 08 Jun 2020, 16:27Merv quoted the current R in his tweet, broken down by region. None of them are 0.7 or 0.8oldbluefox wrote: 08 Jun 2020, 16:10The current R figure nationally is between 0.7 and 0.9 with two regions, the south west and the north west recording 1.0 and 1.1 so Gill's prediction does not ring true, and since these figures were published only last week neither does her accusation that " they are playing it down now, so they are hoping we will have forgotten about it by June!"
Sorry Gill I think I will stick to Onelife's predictions in future, dodgy though they are.![]()
I was referring to your earlier post which Merv mentioned. The R rate has not increased appreciably at all although after this weekend it's anybody's guess what will happen.
Latest update: Sage reporting that the R rate has fallen below 1 in all areas. Good news indeed!!!
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My apology if that one wasn't you. Nonetheless I was still being helpful. One of our number queried why Germany could quote R to 2 decimal places and we could only do a range.Gill W wrote: 08 Jun 2020, 16:30I only remember mentioning that the German R had been above 1, but it had reduced. I don’t think I asked questions about itMervyn and Trish wrote: 08 Jun 2020, 16:23For goodness sake. I was not scoring points.Gill W wrote: 08 Jun 2020, 15:11I'd hope that you didn't drag up an old post of mine for some sort of points scoring exercise, but it's a good opportunity to review what I said.
I'm not too fussed about Germany, I'm concentrating more on the UK
But since you have decided to "review" what you said I'll give you 0.5 out of 3. R is up slightly in some places, but down in others. the figures weren't mine nor the government's and only provided to illustrate the variation. But cases are significantly down. We've had no new ones in our area for several days. And they've not forgotten about R.
Oh and it was you who raised how Germany were reporting R. Not me. I was giving you the information you sought having seen it at the weekend. Don't bother to thank me. If you're not fussed about other countries I won't answer any future questions you pose. I'll assume they're all rhetorical.
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I don’t know if any of you have signed up to the covid symptoms app which has around 4 m inputs…anyway my wife uploaded some of the results last night and what was interesting was that the initial government symptom check of persistent coughs and temperature didn't show the real figure. (not that it could have)
Having done the stats it now appears around 16% of infections will have gone undetected due to the new symptoms of smell and taste not being included in the original tests criteria,
Having done the stats it now appears around 16% of infections will have gone undetected due to the new symptoms of smell and taste not being included in the original tests criteria,
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Mervyn and Trish
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Yes we've been doing that.
The trouble is the symptoms of Covid in the initial stages are so similar to so many others things. I've lost sense of taste and smell and had a cough and had a temperature many times and never had Covid (well as far as I know anyway!)
And of course many people don't get symptoms at all. I saw one figure suggesting infections may be as high as 50 times the cases confirmed by testing.
The trouble is the symptoms of Covid in the initial stages are so similar to so many others things. I've lost sense of taste and smell and had a cough and had a temperature many times and never had Covid (well as far as I know anyway!)
And of course many people don't get symptoms at all. I saw one figure suggesting infections may be as high as 50 times the cases confirmed by testing.
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I thought I had understood that OUR experts felt that taste and smell on their own were not good indicators of covid, because they were nearly always associated with one or other of the other symptoms.Onelife wrote: 08 Jun 2020, 16:54I don’t know if any of you have signed up to the covid symptoms app which has around 4 m inputs…anyway my wife uploaded some of the results last night and what was interesting was that the initial government symptom check of persistent coughs and temperature didn't show the real figure. (not that it could have)
Having done the stats it now appears around 16% of infections will have gone undetected due to the new symptoms of smell and taste not being included in the original tests criteria,
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screwy
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That’s the trouble with Viruses etc, symptoms mimic symptoms of other ailments. I often get a slight sore throat, I also have had a slight,clearing my throat cough for a few yrs and I suffer from daily constant headaches, which can last up to 3 months. Body aches a plenty. I’m just a wreck really.
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Did anyone see the interview with the Mayor of Bristol.? For someone who finds the Statue abhorrent, he did nothing about it in his 4 yrs of tenure.Excuses given were pathetic.
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screwy wrote: 08 Jun 2020, 17:39Did anyone see the interview with the Mayor of Bristol.? For someone who finds the Statue abhorrent, he did nothing about it in his 4 yrs of tenure.Excuses given were pathetic.
I saw it too. A waste of space. Going on about how wonderful and restrained the police were. Pathetic.
It seems like you can do what you bl**dy well like these days and no one, especially the police are going to stop you. Makes me wonder what the point of them are as they just seem to turn up for appearances sake and do sweet fanny all.
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It’s an ever evolving picture Screwy….my understanding is that you can have just one of the symptoms and still have covid…it’s a very clever virus and still as virulent as ever…least we forget.towny44 wrote: 08 Jun 2020, 17:31I thought I had understood that OUR experts felt that taste and smell on their own were not good indicators of covid, because they were nearly always associated with one or other of the other symptoms.Onelife wrote: 08 Jun 2020, 16:54I don’t know if any of you have signed up to the covid symptoms app which has around 4 m inputs…anyway my wife uploaded some of the results last night and what was interesting was that the initial government symptom check of persistent coughs and temperature didn't show the real figure. (not that it could have)
Having done the stats it now appears around 16% of infections will have gone undetected due to the new symptoms of smell and taste not being included in the original tests criteria,
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Each to their own…but I though he spoke quite eloquently…he is their Mayor and therefore representative of all views...had he gone in and played the black "I want it removed card" he would probably ended up where Colston is now.screwy wrote: 08 Jun 2020, 17:39Did anyone see the interview with the Mayor of Bristol.? For someone who finds the Statue abhorrent, he did nothing about it in his 4 yrs of tenure.Excuses given were pathetic.
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Thank you for mistaking me for the Rt Hon Srcewy.Onelife wrote: 08 Jun 2020, 17:56It’s an ever evolving picture Screwy….my understanding is that you can have just one of the symptoms and still have covid…it’s a very clever virus and still as virulent as ever…least we forget.towny44 wrote: 08 Jun 2020, 17:31I thought I had understood that OUR experts felt that taste and smell on their own were not good indicators of covid, because they were nearly always associated with one or other of the other symptoms.Onelife wrote: 08 Jun 2020, 16:54I don’t know if any of you have signed up to the covid symptoms app which has around 4 m inputs…anyway my wife uploaded some of the results last night and what was interesting was that the initial government symptom check of persistent coughs and temperature didn't show the real figure. (not that it could have)
Having done the stats it now appears around 16% of infections will have gone undetected due to the new symptoms of smell and taste not being included in the original tests criteria,
I would just reiterate that our experts on the daily briefing have said that loss of taste and smell on it's own is not at all a good indicator of Covid19, which is why they were reluctant to include it.
I agree it is still as virulent, but the number of cases is now reducing rapidly, so there is hope that we may be beating it.
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I didn’t see today’s briefing, as I had a socially distant visit from a friend. We had to wrap up warm to sit in the garden, but it was nice to see another human apart from my husband.
Therefore,I didn’t see today’s briefing.
Is it true that there were no scientists again?
Therefore,I didn’t see today’s briefing.
Is it true that there were no scientists again?
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A complement indeedtowny44 wrote: 08 Jun 2020, 18:29Thank you for mistaking me for the Rt Hon Srcewy.Onelife wrote: 08 Jun 2020, 17:56It’s an ever evolving picture Screwy….my understanding is that you can have just one of the symptoms and still have covid…it’s a very clever virus and still as virulent as ever…least we forget.towny44 wrote: 08 Jun 2020, 17:31
I thought I had understood that OUR experts felt that taste and smell on their own were not good indicators of covid, because they were nearly always associated with one or other of the other symptoms.![]()
I would just reiterate that our experts on the daily briefing have said that loss of taste and smell on it's own is not at all a good indicator of Covid19, which is why they were reluctant to include it.
I agree it is still as virulent, but the number of cases is now reducing rapidly, so there is hope that we may be beating it.
I suppose it depends on which evidence you believe…those which have been obtained from the 3.8million people via the symptom’s app or the figures from the ONS based on a fraction of that number.
As I said it’s still an evolving picture.
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Gill W wrote: 08 Jun 2020, 19:13I didn’t see today’s briefing, as I had a socially distant visit from a friend. We had to wrap up warm to sit in the garden, but it was nice to see another human apart from my husband.
Therefore,I didn’t see today’s briefing.
Is it true that there were no scientists again?
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The lack of medical experts on recent daily briefings does make me wonder. Has it got anything to do with Professor Jonathan Van-Tam or Dr Jenny Harries having a dig at Dominic Cummins?
I’ve seen or heard zero. Surprised the media aren’t making a fuss.
Anybody else got any facts?
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I’ve seen or heard zero. Surprised the media aren’t making a fuss.
Anybody else got any facts?
Jon