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[Manoverboard]

Very profound words Mob to which I agree…I do however think we have to ask ourselves why certain sections of society don't feel they want to try…when we own up to knowing those reasons we will have a clearer understanding of where it all started going wrong.

Are you dressing on the right or the left today ....

The main reason, in my opinion, is due to peer pressure that causes young black males in particular to be drawn into gangs that offer them a challenge to prove their manhood that they can readily accept rather than the challenge as posed in a classroom that is often being taught by a second rate teacher. They are simply not motivated and that is often due to a lack of a father figure who would kick their arses into gear but too many fathers it seems do a runner because they want the pleasures of a relationship but not the responsibilities that follow.

The solution, as I said earlier, will have to evolve until the next generations of fathers, or the one after that etc, put their children’s interests before their own. Legislation cannot solve this problem should it be part of the cause.
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[screwy]

I've just got to the point where I think I could cope with a meal in a pub garden with all the tables 2 metres apart. One metre seems way too close for my liking. If IDS backs it, then that's all the more reason to keep my personal exclusion zone to 2 metres!

I must admit whatever the rules might say sitting in a pub or its garden aren't priorities for me now or in the immediate future at any distance!

Just been reported today that all the wooden benches, chairs have been stolen from in front of our local..in broad daylight.?

[Manoverboard]

.... As a thought to throw out there - when it comes to equality issues, do the group perceived to be favoured fear losing something if everybody has the same privileges as them.

Women and voting springs to mind. Some men couldn't even countenance women having the vote

It wouldn't bother me ... the only factor that ever affected me was the doubling of one's mortgage interest rate when some baffoon decided it would be good idea to allow women to have mortgages When we married Mobietta couldn't vote because she was too young and although she was working her money could not be included in the mortgage calculations etc.

It is of course impossible for ' everybody ' to have the same privileges if only because their earnings will be different.
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[Onelife]

That can only possibly be achieved through education and by everybody being able to reach the same pass rates as everybody else otherwise it simply isn't going to happen. Even if it could it would probably take two hundred years or more because of slow evolution else lack of integration and/or application. Some could make the effort but don't whereas others can't so don't even try. This leaves us with a grouping who have no vested interest in the Country where they live which can only result in greater feelings of isolation and rejection. It is then too easy to play the race card.

Very profound words Mob to which I agree…I do however think we have to ask ourselves why certain sections of society don't feel they want to try…when we own up to knowing those reasons we will have a clearer understanding of where it all started going wrong.

As a thought to throw out there - when it comes to equality issues, do the group perceived to be favoured fear losing something if everybody has the same privileges as them.

Women and voting springs to mind. Some men couldn't even countenance women having the vote

I suspect whichever angle you look at that one Gill the truth lies somewhere in what you say.

[screwy]

Black and Asian males do not join the Police etc because of peer pressure, they can’t be seen to join what they call ‘ white territory’ It’s no use saying there are not enough Bame officers when they just won’t join.

When I served At Aylesbury yoi, the fights were always Black against Asian, very rarely against whites. I discovered then that Blacks are racist too.

[Manoverboard]

Just been reported today that all the wooden benches, chairs have been stolen from in front of our local..in broad daylight.?

Perhaps they were confiscated by the Park Bench Police for not being more than two metres apart

[Onelife]

Very profound words Mob to which I agree…I do however think we have to ask ourselves why certain sections of society don't feel they want to try…when we own up to knowing those reasons we will have a clearer understanding of where it all started going wrong.

Are you dressing on the right or the left today ....

The main reason, in my opinion, is due to peer pressure that causes young black males in particular to be drawn into gangs that offer them a challenge to prove their manhood that they can readily accept rather than the challenge as posed in a classroom that is often being taught by a second rate teacher. They are simply not motivated and that is often due to a lack of a father figure who would kick their arses into gear but too many fathers it seems do a runner because they want the pleasures of a relationship but not the responsibilities that follow.

The solution, as I said earlier, will have to evolve until the next generations of fathers, or the one after that etc, put their children’s interests before their own. Legislation cannot solve this problem should it be part of the cause.
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I’m saying nowt…. Stephen will be calling me a cross-dresser …although i have to say the pink number looks good on me!

[Mervyn and Trish]

As a thought to throw out there - when it comes to equality issues, do the group perceived to be favoured fear losing something if everybody has the same privileges as them.

Women and voting springs to mind. Some men couldn't even countenance women having the vote

The emancipation of women was at a very different time from today when many prejudices were rife. But the issue with voting was that the previous inequality was enshrined in law and it was a comparatively simple matter to amend the law.

I might be wrong but I can't think of a modern equivalent of an inequality that is legally enforced. Quite the opposite where the law seeks to outlaw it.

But you're possibly right about a minority having an attitude where they perceive someone else gaining as them losing something. Makes no sense which makes it very hard to address.

[Manoverboard]

Very profound words Mob to which I agree…I do however think we have to ask ourselves why certain sections of society don't feel they want to try…when we own up to knowing those reasons we will have a clearer understanding of where it all started going wrong.

Are you dressing on the right or the left today ....

The main reason, in my opinion, is due to peer pressure that causes young black males in particular to be drawn into gangs that offer them a challenge to prove their manhood that they can readily accept rather than the challenge as posed in a classroom that is often being taught by a second rate teacher. They are simply not motivated and that is often due to a lack of a father figure who would kick their arses into gear but too many fathers it seems do a runner because they want the pleasures of a relationship but not the responsibilities that follow.

The solution, as I said earlier, will have to evolve until the next generations of fathers, or the one after that etc, put their children’s interests before their own. Legislation cannot solve this problem should it be part of the cause.
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I’m saying nowt…. Stephen will be calling me a cross-dresser …although i have to say the pink number looks good on me!

You were supposed to comment on my reply to your good self rather than your dress .. for goodness sakes
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[screwy]

Reports suggest that the Track & Trace is working well but room for improvement, sounds like most of my school reports. Yes Moby, I did go to school, it was a very good one, it was approved.

[Gill W]

.... As a thought to throw out there - when it comes to equality issues, do the group perceived to be favoured fear losing something if everybody has the same privileges as them.

Women and voting springs to mind. Some men couldn't even countenance women having the vote

It wouldn't bother me ... the only factor that ever affected me was the doubling of one's mortgage interest rate when some baffoon decided it would be good idea to allow women to have mortgages When we married Mobietta couldn't vote because she was too young and although she was working her money could not be included in the mortgage calculations etc.

It is of course impossible for ' everybody ' to have the same privileges if only because their earnings will be different.
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I spent 28 years working for a large building society( later bank) and most of that time I was working on the mortgage administration side of things. I’m not 100% sure that the high interest rates were down to women having mortgages!

In the situation Mobietta was in, it was just her age that stopped her being on the mortgage. A young man exactly the same age as her wouldn’t have been able to get a mortgage either.

[Gill W]

As a thought to throw out there - when it comes to equality issues, do the group perceived to be favoured fear losing something if everybody has the same privileges as them.

Women and voting springs to mind. Some men couldn't even countenance women having the vote

The emancipation of women was at a very different time from today when many prejudices were rife. But the issue with voting was that the previous inequality was enshrined in law and it was a comparatively simple matter to amend the law.

I might be wrong but I can't think of a modern equivalent of an inequality that is legally enforced. Quite the opposite where the law seeks to outlaw it.

But you're possibly right about a minority having an attitude where they perceive someone else gaining as them losing something. Makes no sense which makes it very hard to address.

It wasn’t just a change of law that was required to allow women to vote. Votes for all women wasn’t achieved until 1928. They’d been campaigning since at least the 1880’s. A lot of it was about attitude to women as well

[Manoverboard]

Reports suggest that the Track & Trace is working well but room for improvement, sounds like most of my school reports. Yes Moby, I did go to school, it was a very good one, it was approved.

Some of my subjects used to say ' Satisfactory ' which meant they neither knew nor cared

[Manoverboard]

... I’m not 100% sure that the high interest rates were down to women having mortgages!

Oh yes they were

Our My first mortgage was with a Building Society, in your neck of the woods maybe, that offered us a 30 year mortgage which was unheard of in those days but it allowed us me to purchase our first house ... I remain grateful to them to this day for that even though I we switched providers a few year later.

[Mervyn and Trish]

As a thought to throw out there - when it comes to equality issues, do the group perceived to be favoured fear losing something if everybody has the same privileges as them.

Women and voting springs to mind. Some men couldn't even countenance women having the vote

The emancipation of women was at a very different time from today when many prejudices were rife. But the issue with voting was that the previous inequality was enshrined in law and it was a comparatively simple matter to amend the law.

I might be wrong but I can't think of a modern equivalent of an inequality that is legally enforced. Quite the opposite where the law seeks to outlaw it.

But you're possibly right about a minority having an attitude where they perceive someone else gaining as them losing something. Makes no sense which makes it very hard to address.

It wasn’t just a change of law that was required to allow women to vote. Votes for all women wasn’t achieved until 1928. They’d been campaigning since at least the 1880’s. A lot of it was about attitude to women as well

You do seem determined to disagree with me at any cost! Prior to whatever date the law did not allow women to vote. Once the law changed they were permitted to vote whether men liked it or not. There is not a law today that declares black people inferior to white and allows policemen to kill them.

[Onelife]

Are you dressing on the right or the left today ....

The main reason, in my opinion, is due to peer pressure that causes young black males in particular to be drawn into gangs that offer them a challenge to prove their manhood that they can readily accept rather than the challenge as posed in a classroom that is often being taught by a second rate teacher. They are simply not motivated and that is often due to a lack of a father figure who would kick their arses into gear but too many fathers it seems do a runner because they want the pleasures of a relationship but not the responsibilities that follow.

The solution, as I said earlier, will have to evolve until the next generations of fathers, or the one after that etc, put their children’s interests before their own. Legislation cannot solve this problem should it be part of the cause.
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I’m saying nowt…. Stephen will be calling me a cross-dresser …although i have to say the pink number looks good on me!

You were supposed to comment on my reply to your good self rather than your dress .. for goodness sakes
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I generally refrain from replying to posts that have references to “proving one’s manhood “as I don’t like boasting unless its to do with track n trace or using face masks.

Your post contained “IMO” and as such I don’t feel I have to reply to every post I don’t entirely agree with .

Whilst I accept parent/s play a big part in a child’s outlook on life (motivation) etc…if one parent has a couldn’t care less attitude then the child won’t be losing out on much as far as motivation is concerned.

I don’t know this for a fact but I guess a lot of what you call second rate teachers are for the most just less experienced teachers who are starting their teaching careers in many of the more disadvantaged schooling areas.

I happen to think that a good head teacher can motivate both teachers and pupils alike, but what they can’t change is the lack of government funding in the areas from which the children are brought up.

Now if you don’t mind I’ll get back to choosing my next outfit.

[Gill W]

... I’m not 100% sure that the high interest rates were down to women having mortgages!

Oh yes they were

Our My first mortgage was with a Building Society, in your neck of the woods maybe, that offered us a 30 year mortgage which was unheard of in those days but it allowed us me to purchase our first house ... I remain grateful to them to this day for that even though I we switched providers a few year later.

The smaller building societies were more likely to be flexible. Those few extra years on the mortgage term would have made the monthly payment much more affordable for a young couple to get their feet on the housing ladder.

[Gill W]

The emancipation of women was at a very different time from today when many prejudices were rife. But the issue with voting was that the previous inequality was enshrined in law and it was a comparatively simple matter to amend the law.

I might be wrong but I can't think of a modern equivalent of an inequality that is legally enforced. Quite the opposite where the law seeks to outlaw it.

But you're possibly right about a minority having an attitude where they perceive someone else gaining as them losing something. Makes no sense which makes it very hard to address.

It wasn’t just a change of law that was required to allow women to vote. Votes for all women wasn’t achieved until 1928. They’d been campaigning since at least the 1880’s. A lot of it was about attitude to women as well

You do seem determined to disagree with me at any cost! Prior to whatever date the law did not allow women to vote. Once the law changed they were permitted to vote whether men liked it or not. There is not a law today that declares black people inferior to white and allows policemen to kill them.

I could say the same about you!

In order to get to the point where the law was changed, women had to push and campaign for years. If they hadn’t have done that, women would not have been granted the vote in 1918 and rest in 1928. It was hard fought, to overcome prejudices. If the women hadn’t campaigned, I doubt if the men of parliament would ever have thought to allow women to vote - there would have been no pressure for change.

I wasn’t talking about laws, I was talking about societal attitudes.

[Manoverboard]

I've just got to the point where I think I could cope with a meal in a pub garden with all the tables 2 metres apart. One metre seems way too close for my liking. If IDS backs it, then that's all the more reason to keep my personal exclusion zone to 2 metres!

I must admit whatever the rules might say sitting in a pub or its garden aren't priorities for me now or in the immediate future at any distance!

Nor me ... I was chatting to one's Pub Manager wot sorts out our take-away deliveries and he said that although they are thinking about opening in July they had no real idea how it can be achieved safely and profitably, he also said that they will continue their take-away service.

[Stephen]

It's a double edged sword really. If the pub has a large beer garden then they can accommodate punters within the rules, but they are then banking on the weather playing ball or having to invest hundreds, if not thousands in huge umbrellas. Already on the brink of collapse I can't see it happening.

[Onelife]

I've just had a delivery of two boxes of Jubel Beer......good job l didn't have to sign as l'm still in bed

IF you haven't tried it yet , do so cos it's lovely ...unlike any beer you have tried before

P.s My wife is so good as l've got her to get out of bed to bring it in

No doubt she.ll be bringing my cuppa any minute now

[Manoverboard]

I've just had a delivery of two boxes of Jubel Beer......

Elderflower .... Peach .... best drunk chilled and when one's wearing one's best pink dress presumably

[Stephen]

I've just had a delivery of two boxes of Jubel Beer......good job l didn't have to sign as l'm still in bed

IF you haven't tried it yet , do so cos it's lovely ...unlike any beer you have tried before

P.s My wife is so good as l've got her to get out of bed to bring it in

No doubt she.ll be bringing my cuppa any minute now

Lazy s*d still in bed at this hour. I've been up ages, had breakfast, been round dead heading the roses and about to strim the grass edges before we get another bout of rain showers.

[Ray B]

So what did the Roman's do for us. Well they did take slaves.

[Ray B]

Fawlty Towers episode taken down, don't mention the war.
What's next, Dads Army?