The BBC

[screwy]

Is it now time to Defund the Beeb. It seems clear to most people that it has lost its ‘Impartiality’. It has been getting away with sub standard Programming for a long time . The Licence fee should be scrapped and income raised through commercial avenues, after all Ch 4 , part of the Beeb shows adverts.? It would then be answerable to its funders who it could not ignore unlike with the fee payers.

If I’m wrong on any aspect,I’m sure I will be put right and will readily accept.

[Mervyn and Trish]

Well for one thing Ch4 is not part of the BBC......

[Manoverboard]

Not a very good start then, perhaps it will pick up later when ' Towny ' posts

[david63]

One thing that is wrong with the licence fee is that it is used to fund the BBC but you have to have a licence even if you never watch BBC

[Onelife]

Well for one thing Ch4 is not part of the BBC......

Were you an assassin in a past life Sir Merv?

[towny44]

Geeta Guru-Murthy was slapped down today by an NHS trust spokesman for deliberately misleading viewers with her interpretation of the Office of statistics report on hospital transfers to care homes during the crisis.
If he was right the error was significant and if indicative of the general standard of reporting on the Beeb, then I am entirely in agreement with my good friend Screwy
However I do expect to see a post from Merv in defence of his former employers.

PS happy to oblige Moby.

[screwy]

Well for one thing Ch4 is not part of the BBC......

Ok, misinformation on my part, even i get things wrong sometimes, but at east i admit it Lol

[screwy]

The only Beeb reporter i can take to is Vicky Young, a breath of fresh air.
I do like watching Sky.Aus. Their presenters tell it how it is.

[towny44]

The only Beeb reporter i can take to is Vicky Young, a breath of fresh air.
I do like watching Sky.Aus. Their presenters tell it how it is.

I am probably totally wrong Scewy but I get the impression that she might vote Tory, if not then my admiration for her unbiased reporting is even greater.

[Mervyn and Trish]

One thing that is wrong with the licence fee is that it is used to fund the BBC but you have to have a licence even if you never watch BBC

In the same way that you pay for ITV every time you go shopping if you don't even own a tv!

[screwy]

But we can choose where we shop..

[towny44]

One thing that is wrong with the licence fee is that it is used to fund the BBC but you have to have a licence even if you never watch BBC

In the same way that you pay for ITV every time you go shopping if you don't even own a tv!

That assumes Merv that any company advertising on ITV would not spend the same amount on advertising if they switched to some other medium, although I accept it has been the Beebs excuse for keeping the license fee for many years.
Advertising is the lifeblood of many businesses, and they would find other ways if ITV, or any TV advertising did not exist

[david63]

One thing that is wrong with the licence fee is that it is used to fund the BBC but you have to have a licence even if you never watch BBC

In the same way that you pay for ITV every time you go shopping if you don't even own a tv!

But Tesco (other supermarkets are available) don't make me pay them £155 a year for the privilege of going into Sainsbugs!

[Stephen]

The majority of BBC viewing is cr*p or repeats. I wouldn't miss it if it ever disappeared from our screens.

[Mervyn and Trish]

But we can choose where we shop..

I challenge you to shop without paying for advertising.

[Mervyn and Trish]

I fully accept you bunch of heathens don't like the BBC. But trust me, you'd miss it if was gone or was forced to take ads. It would be a race to the bottom. Look what you get when the advertisers call the shots. Big Brother and Love Island. But I'll leave you to it on this one. I know I can't win.

[Manoverboard]

I think it stinks that the BEEB are seemingly hell bent on preventing the scrapping of their fees for the over 75s but watching American TV would doubtless lead y’all to a rethink of what channels you think you would prefer ... be careful what you wish for comes to mind.

[Onelife]

I fully accept you bunch of heathens don't like the BBC. But trust me, you'd miss it if was gone or was forced to take ads. It would be a race to the bottom. Look what you get when the advertisers call the shots. Big Brother and Love Island. But I'll leave you to it on this one. I know I can't win.

If it’s a choice between the BBC and ITV then BBC wins hands down for me…you can serve up dinner and eat it if you clump all the adds together in an hour-long program.

As for Big Brother and Love Island ‘you can get me out of here’ because there isn’t one “I’m a celebrity” between the lot of them.

[Stephen]

That's why I record what I want to wtch Keith. Cut out the middle man (adverts).

[Mervyn and Trish]

I think it stinks that the BEEB are seemingly hell bent on preventing the scrapping of their fees for the over 75s but watching American TV would doubtless lead y’all to a rethink of what channels you think you would prefer ... be careful what you wish for comes to mind.

That's one to attack the Tories on rather than the BBC. It was introduced as a benefit by the government and funded by the government. But we were naughty enough to live longer so it became unaffordable. Rather than face that reality and make the decision themselves the Tories withdrew the funding and dumped the responsibility on the BBC, knowing full well they'd have to make an unpopular decision. And then the Tories bitch about it.

[screwy]

Or maybe the overpaid executives and presenters could take a proper wage cut which could pay for the over 75s. Just a thought.

[Mervyn and Trish]

Or maybe the overpaid executives and presenters could take a proper wage cut which could pay for the over 75s. Just a thought.

The pay rates are less than ITV. And if they fired them all it still wouldn't anywhere near cover the cost.

[Mervyn and Trish]

To be specific all the "Talent " (industry term not mine) cost a total of £193m. The cost of the over 75 licence subsidy is £250m. So fire all the presenters, you have no programmes and you're still £57m short. Not sure how that would work.

[screwy]

I suppose it’s the advertisers that pay ITV .?

Maybe it’s just the Beebs news production or whatever that needs sorting because that’s what is bringing it down.?

[Manoverboard]

I think it stinks that the BEEB are seemingly hell bent on preventing the scrapping of their fees for the over 75s but watching American TV would doubtless lead y’all to a rethink of what channels you think you would prefer ... be careful what you wish for comes to mind.

That's one to attack the Tories on rather than the BBC. It was introduced as a benefit by the government and funded by the government. But we were naughty enough to live longer so it became unaffordable. Rather than face that reality and make the decision themselves the Tories withdrew the funding and dumped the responsibility on the BBC, knowing full well they'd have to make an unpopular decision. And then the Tories bitch about it.

The Government again, you are starting to sound like OL .

The reduction is down to the BBC to fund by reducing costs and staff if needs be, we were in a period of austerity and will soon be in a recession and yet you imply that the BBC should be protected from reality. I can only imagine that their costs are divided into cost Centres but in truth they should be Profit Centres as in this way there would have to be savings to pay for additional expenditure. It is also a nonsense to claim that their staff should be paid the same as those who work for the independent companies, I say no because the likes of ITV’s expenditure is linked to the revenue accrued through advertising conversely the BBC spends like there is no tomorrow. Recently they awarded their female staff huge increases because of the laws governing equality, fine but it should be self financed even if that means many staff are made redundant. That's how it works in the real World ... and often without the benefit of generous BBC pensions.