Current Affairs

[oldbluefox]

The Black Lives Matter protest was cancelled for today, as it was known that ...er... 'others' were going to be in town. At lunch time it looked like a load of drunk football supporters spoiling for a fight - the idea of 'protecting statues' is just a smokescreen. This looks like a mob out for trouble. Last week in London, the majority of protesters were peaceful with a small minority of trouble makers kicking off late in the day. This week it's a majority looking for trouble and starting it early. Loads of videos to confirm what I'm saying. Here's a couple of the least worst, and I don't think there's any swearing on them

Interesting summing up of the violent protests of the past week and today Gill.
You describe the right wing gathering as:
"a load of drunk football supporters spoiling for a fight - the idea of 'protecting statues' is just a smokescreen. This looks like a mob out for trouble".
Then the protests of the BLM as:
"Last week in London, the majority of protesters were peaceful with a small minority of trouble makers kicking off late in the day".
I'm afraid I don't find the pulling down of statues, the attempted burning of the Union flag, graffiti on statues of Churchill and others, the unedifying spectacle of our police running away from the mob, a mounted police officer ending up in hospital, several police officers injured in protests which went on late into the night as "a small minority of trouble makers kicking off late in the day".
In the interests of fairness I condemn the violence which we have seen from both sides in equal measure, black/white, far right/far left.

[Manoverboard]

No it shouldn't need boarding up. Nor should the statues of Churchill, Ghandi and Mandela.


The Black Lives Matter protest was cancelled for today, as it was known that ...er... 'others' were going to be in town. At lunch time it looked like a load of drunk football supporters spoiling for a fight - the idea of 'protecting statues' is just a smokescreen. This looks like a mob out for trouble. Last week in London, the majority of protesters were peaceful with a small minority of trouble makers kicking off late in the day. This week it's a majority looking for trouble and starting it early. Loads of videos to confirm what I'm saying. Here's a couple of the least worst, and I don't think there's any swearing on them

https://twitter.com/i/status/1271761377317851136

https://twitter.com/i/status/1271801570456481794

It's easy to select videos that back up one's own view, I'll not bother.

If the savages that pretend to protest peacefully why were 27 Police Officers ( allegedly ) injured, perhaps they accidently bumped into each other.

Black Lives Matters, I believe, less today because there was a implied threat to trash the most sacred of monuments that we, as a Nation, can possible have.

Smoke screen my a*se

[screwy]

Give me strength.

Ditto.

Give me strength too.

I try to give information that you won't see because you stick to the BBC, but I can see you prefer what you are given on TV - ironically while complaining about about the BBC !

You really do take the biscuit. What makes you think that I stick to the BBC.? Like you , I get Information from several different sources. Are you telling me I’m not allowed to watch and complain.? You say the Cenotaph doesn’t need protecting because it’s boarded up, well I think even you could manage to throw paint or whatever over an 8-10 foot hoarding.! Now I’m going to stop here but believe me I could say a lot more. Goodbye.

[Manoverboard]

... Now I’m going to stop here but believe me I could say a lot more. Goodbye.

Don't let me stop you, you have earned the right

[Gill W]

The Black Lives Matter protest was cancelled for today, as it was known that ...er... 'others' were going to be in town. At lunch time it looked like a load of drunk football supporters spoiling for a fight - the idea of 'protecting statues' is just a smokescreen. This looks like a mob out for trouble. Last week in London, the majority of protesters were peaceful with a small minority of trouble makers kicking off late in the day. This week it's a majority looking for trouble and starting it early. Loads of videos to confirm what I'm saying. Here's a couple of the least worst, and I don't think there's any swearing on them

Interesting summing up of the violent protests of the past week and today Gill.
You describe the right wing gathering as:
"a load of drunk football supporters spoiling for a fight - the idea of 'protecting statues' is just a smokescreen. This looks like a mob out for trouble".
Then the protests of the BLM as:
"Last week in London, the majority of protesters were peaceful with a small minority of trouble makers kicking off late in the day".
I'm afraid I don't find the pulling down of statues, the attempted burning of the Union flag, graffiti on statues of Churchill and others, the unedifying spectacle of our police running away from the mob, a mounted police officer ending up in hospital, several police officers injured in protests which went on late into the night as "a small minority of trouble makers kicking off late in the day".
In the interests of fairness I condemn the violence which we have seen from both sides in equal measure, black/white, far right/far left.

Firstly I was talking about London, and not Bristol.

In London last week the trouble started late in the day, for most of the afternoon, the protesters were peaceful. Of course, there’s no excuse at all for violence, graffiti and flag burning. But they didn’t pull down any statues.

This week, the ‘protesters’ or whatever you’d like to call them, kicked off at lunch time. I have looked, and I haven’t seen any peaceful protesting going on. When asked, they can’t articulate what they are protesting about.

I don’t include Bristol in this - what looked like vandalism has turned out to be the start of a national discussion. I have very mixed feelings about this.

It it’s a peaceful protest, there’ll be men and women there, and children. If it’s men only, you can bet it’ll turn nasty very quickly - and this weeks crowd is 99.9% men , and most of them appeared to be there for trouble.

[Gill W]

No it shouldn't need boarding up. Nor should the statues of Churchill, Ghandi and Mandela.


The Black Lives Matter protest was cancelled for today, as it was known that ...er... 'others' were going to be in town. At lunch time it looked like a load of drunk football supporters spoiling for a fight - the idea of 'protecting statues' is just a smokescreen. This looks like a mob out for trouble. Last week in London, the majority of protesters were peaceful with a small minority of trouble makers kicking off late in the day. This week it's a majority looking for trouble and starting it early. Loads of videos to confirm what I'm saying. Here's a couple of the least worst, and I don't think there's any swearing on them

https://twitter.com/i/status/1271761377317851136

https://twitter.com/i/status/1271801570456481794

It's easy to select videos that back up one's own view, I'll not bother.

If the savages that pretend to protest peacefully why were 27 Police Officers ( allegedly ) injured, perhaps they accidently bumped into each other.

Black Lives Matters, I believe, less today because there was a implied threat to trash the most sacred of monuments that we, as a Nation, can possible have.

Smoke screen my a*se

It was actually quite difficult to find those videos as they were the least offensive I could find and didn’t include foul language.

I’ve already said that last weeks trouble started late in the day, after the main protest was over, when it turned really nasty. I didn’t say there was no trouble!

Anyway, it seems clear to be that you don’t want to see the full picture of what happened this week. Therefore, with luck you won’t see the tub of lard who urinated right next to PC Keith Palmer’s memorial stone. So much for ‘protecting’ monuments.

[oldbluefox]

How you justify what happened last week is beyond me Gill. I wonder if the 27 police officers injured last week would agree with you.

[Gill W]

How you justify what happened last week is beyond me Gill. I wonder if the 27 police officers injured last week would agree with you.

Where did I say that I justify violence and police officers getting injured ?

Of course I don’t justify it, because it is plain wrong

[oldbluefox]

#4405
"Last week in London, the majority of protesters were peaceful with a small minority of trouble makers kicking off late in the day".
I'm afraid I don't find.............. the attempted burning of the Union flag, graffiti on statues of Churchill and others, the unedifying spectacle of our police running away from the mob, a mounted police officer ending up in hospital, several police officers injured in protests which went on late into the night as "a small minority of trouble makers kicking off late in the day".

This was not "a small minority of trouble makers kicking off late in the day" no matter how you try to dress it up. The police were under attack from two sides to the extent they had to bring in mounted officers and it lasted for several hours. It was serious unrest which did nothing for the cause.

[Onelife]

I have over the past few weeks been keeping my eye on the coronavirus cases in Shropshire…when I first started looking the figure was 805 it is now 836. Considering we are one of the least densely populated counties in the UK one would have thought the figure should be decreasing…or am I missing something?

[towny44]

I have over the past few weeks been keeping my eye on the coronavirus cases in Shropshire…when I first started looking the figure was 805 it is now 836. Considering we are one of the least densely populated counties in the UK one would have thought the figure should be decreasing…or am I missing something?

I am assuming the numbers are the total cases since the start of the pandemic, unfortunately they will never go down, only up.

[Manoverboard]

... Anyway, it seems clear to be that you don’t want to see the full picture of what happened this week. Therefore, with luck you won’t see the tub of lard who urinated right next to PC Keith Palmer’s memorial stone. So much for ‘protecting’ monuments.

You seem to have forgotten how to attack the post rather than the poster, I conclude that you must share my own belief that the cause has lost some ground and public support over this past weekend.

Over the years I’ve seen every combination of fat, white, thin, black types peeing just about anywhere and everywhere so I’ll not be looking for the latest example of such behaviour in a public place.

[Stephen]

Public support for what. Some drugged up perpetual criminal, that I agree was unjustly killed, but in another country. I can't see all the blacks coming out in protest if it was a white person killed under the same circumstances.

[Kendhni]

I was wondering where were all these thugs and sunny day rabble rousers when David Dorn was killed.

[Onelife]

I have over the past few weeks been keeping my eye on the coronavirus cases in Shropshire…when I first started looking the figure was 805 it is now 836. Considering we are one of the least densely populated counties in the UK one would have thought the figure should be decreasing…or am I missing something?

I am assuming the numbers are the total cases since the start of the pandemic, unfortunately they will never go down, only up.

Hi John, l thought the idea we were working towards was to bring the numbers down....If Shropshire figures are anything to go by them that doesn't appear to be happening?

[oldbluefox]

Public support for what. Some drugged up perpetual criminal, that I agree was unjustly killed, but in another country. I can't see all the blacks coming out in protest if it was a white person killed under the same circumstances.

RIP Lee Rigby

I was wondering where were all these thugs and sunny day rabble rousers when David Dorn was killed.

RIP David Dorn
All lives matter. The argument appears to me somewhat slanted.

[anniec]

I have over the past few weeks been keeping my eye on the coronavirus cases in Shropshire…when I first started looking the figure was 805 it is now 836. Considering we are one of the least densely populated counties in the UK one would have thought the figure should be decreasing…or am I missing something?

I am assuming the numbers are the total cases since the start of the pandemic, unfortunately they will never go down, only up.

Hi John, l thought the idea we were working towards was to bring the numbers down....If Shropshire figures are anything to go by them that doesn't appear to be happening?

It's the number of new cases that you need to look at compared to previous weeks, not the number of cases since the start of the pandemic.

[oldbluefox]

Hi John, l thought the idea we were working towards was to bring the numbers down....If Shropshire figures are anything to go by them that doesn't appear to be happening?

I think you need to look at the daily/weekly running figures to get any idea of whether it is spreading or reducing.I was at hospital in Carlisle on Friday and was told (unofficially) they only had 11 cases of Covid in there and had had no deaths for the past couple of weeks. That looks good to my untrained mind.

[oldbluefox]

Sorry annie, you beat me to it!!!

[screwy]

Public support for what. Some drugged up perpetual criminal, that I agree was unjustly killed, but in another country. I can't see all the blacks coming out in protest if it was a white person killed under the same circumstances.

RIP Lee Rigby

I was wondering where were all these thugs and sunny day rabble rousers when David Dorn was killed.

RIP David Dorn
All lives matter. The argument appears to me somewhat slanted.

I watched an interesting video from Melbourne Australia, at the BLM protests there last weekend a reporter asked White and Black protestors about a 40 yr old , white Australian woman, who was shot dead by a Black Police Offr, she was unarmed,in her Pjs,no criminal history. No one had heard of her nor sad to say ,some blamed her’ white supremacy’.No protests about her, even in her own country.

[screwy]

I should add,this took place in the same city in the states as Floyd. Her name..Justine Damond.Look it up.

[Manoverboard]

I should add,this took place in the same city in the states as Floyd. Her name..Justine Damond.Look it up.

I did but he did apologise for killing a perfect person ... that's all right then.

[Onelife]

I am assuming the numbers are the total cases since the start of the pandemic, unfortunately they will never go down, only up.

Hi John, l thought the idea we were working towards was to bring the numbers down....If Shropshire figures are anything to go by them that doesn't appear to be happening?

It's the number of new cases that you need to look at compared to previous weeks, not the number of cases since the start of the pandemic.

Hi Annice. .....The figures were that of the previous few weeks as l started looking when they were 805 they are now 836

[Onelife]

I think you're all missing the point.... this isn't about one drugged up criminal it's about the disproportionate ammount of black vs white killings that take place at the hands of those who are supposed to be their protectors.

It doesn't matter what crimes they are accused of.....when the law enforcers start dishing out their own kind of justice the system is broken.

[screwy]

In the Uk as of 3 June 2020. Figures for the last 10 years of deaths in or released from police custody: 163.

White: 140.
Black : 13
Other Ethnics : 10.

Figures provided by the IPPC. These are Uk figures, very disproportionate.