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[Manoverboard]

I think you're all missing the point.... this isn't about one drugged up criminal it's about the disproportionate ammount of black vs white killings that take place at the hands of those who are supposed to be their protectors.

It doesn't matter what crimes they are accused of.....when the law enforcers start dishing out their own kind of justice the system is broken.

Perhaps you're right but I thought it was far wider than that given the number of coloured persons that I have noticed, albeit only of Caribbean origin, who have been putting forward their individual thoughts based on their life experiences.

Perhaps you or Gill would care to open a New Topic entitled ' Black Lives Matter ... or do they ? ' and then we can explore the real feelings about the way forward / need for change and if so where etc.

Over to you

[Onelife]

In the Uk as of 3 June 2020. Figures for the last 10 years of deaths in or released from police custody: 163.

White: 140.
Black : 13
Other Ethnics : 10.

Figures provided by the IPPC. These are Uk figures, very disproportionate.

Now give us the Figures for the last 10 years of deaths in or released from police custody: in America

[Manoverboard]

In the Uk as of 3 June 2020. Figures for the last 10 years of deaths in or released from police custody: 163.

White: 140.
Black : 13
Other Ethnics : 10.

Figures provided by the IPPC. These are Uk figures, very disproportionate.

What are the USA figures ?

They would be a tad different me thinks but what has that got to do with us I am also thinking.

ps ... I submitted before reading you post OL

[screwy]

I refer to Moby’s post.. what happens in the Uk concerns me more.

[Gill W]

I have over the past few weeks been keeping my eye on the coronavirus cases in Shropshire…when I first started looking the figure was 805 it is now 836. Considering we are one of the least densely populated counties in the UK one would have thought the figure should be decreasing…or am I missing something?

On a related subject, I thought this map from the ONS was really interesting.

It gives the amount of deaths from C19 at a very local level. In my area, there, there have been 2 deaths from C19, both in April. That seems very low, but it includes a very rural area, so the deaths are actually from only a few roads. I’ve had a walk nearly every day since this started, and have felt very safe, but It’s a sharp reminder that it’s lurking in every community.

With all the events going on in the world, it’s almost as if it’s been forgotten we’re still in the middle of a pandemic.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulatio ... 2020-06-12

[Manoverboard]

On a related subject, I thought this map from the ONS was really interesting.

Very interesting, thank you.

I located a mini version of Watford in the Watford local Newspaper but nothing similar in Dorset publications.

Nothing at all in our area, no surprises there but there are just a few in adjoining areas.

Dorchester had the highest with 23 but a little village among many has an incredible 14. The only connection that I can think of is the Hospital and the number of Consultants, Managers and higher paid staff who live in the affected village.

[david63]

The only connection that I can think of is the Hospital and the number of Consultants, Managers and higher paid staff who live in the affected village.

It could also be related to the age demographic of that village

[Manoverboard]

The only connection that I can think of is the Hospital and the number of Consultants, Managers and higher paid staff who live in the affected village.

It could also be related to the age demographic of that village

Could be but given the overall mix of population it would seem, to me, unlikely. On the outskirts there is a development aimed at young families rather than retiring oldies, they would mainly head off to cheaper and far prettier villages in the area.

[david63]

Remember of course that the data on that map is from ONS which is looking at "places of death" not places of residence so if there is a hospital it could have a large catchment area.

[Manoverboard]

Remember of course that the data on that map is from ONS which is looking at "places of death" not places of residence so if there is a hospital it could have a large catchment area.

Now you're trying to confuse me

So .... nobody died in our area but only because they all died in Dorchester Hospital

[anniec]

Sorry annie, you beat me to it!!!

That's the first thing I've ever won

[david63]

So .... nobody died in our area but only because they all died in Dorchester Hospital

That is a possibility

[Manoverboard]

So .... nobody died in our area but only because they all died in Dorchester Hospital

That is a possibility

In which case we are surely agreed that it's basically a rubbish map

[towny44]

So .... nobody died in our area but only because they all died in Dorchester Hospital

That is a possibility

In which case we are surely agreed that it's basically a rubbish map

If it's the same map I looked at, then from the scattering of deaths in every local area, I can only assume it was the victims address, since most deaths have happened on hospital or care homes.

[oldbluefox]

Can you lot down south sort your maps out like wot we do up here.

[Manoverboard]

Can you lot down south sort your maps out like wot we do up here.

I'll have you know that Uncle63 lives up norf like wot you and Towny do

[Manoverboard]

If it's the same map I looked at, then from the scattering of deaths in every local area, I can only assume it was the victims address, since most deaths have happened on hospital or care homes.

I thought the same until D63 came along

Darzet's little green circles are not all near to a Hospital or a Care Home but most of them certainly are. I know of only one person who actually died from the virus, the area in which he lived has a zero return but we also know that he died in Dorchester Hospital. No idea what that may prove, if indeed anything at all.

[towny44]

If it's the same map I looked at, then from the scattering of deaths in every local area, I can only assume it was the victims address, since most deaths have happened on hospital or care homes.

I thought the same until D63 came along

Darzet's little green circles are not all near to a Hospital or a Care Home but most of them certainly are. I know of only one person who actually died from the virus, the area in which he lived has a zero return but we also know that he died in Dorchester Hospital. No idea what that may prove, if indeed anything at all.

Makes one doubt whether we should believe anything the ONS say perhaps it's better to trust lying politicians and their advisors after all.

[Manoverboard]

If it's the same map I looked at, then from the scattering of deaths in every local area, I can only assume it was the victims address, since most deaths have happened on hospital or care homes.

I thought the same until D63 came along

Darzet's little green circles are not all near to a Hospital or a Care Home but most of them certainly are. I know of only one person who actually died from the virus, the area in which he lived has a zero return but we also know that he died in Dorchester Hospital. No idea what that may prove, if indeed anything at all.

Makes one doubt whether we should believe anything the ONS say perhaps it's better to trust lying politicians and their advisors after all.

I am prepared to accept the figures at a County level but no more than that, it will all get distorted of course when the grockles arrive and leave us the legacy of their misfortune.

[johnds]

My Map area ( 3 villages) has 12 deaths
We do not have a hospital

[screwy]

Can you believe the crass stupidity of our youth. 2 Raves on Saturday night in Gtr Manchester involving around 6000. One Rape,3 stabbings and one fatal overdose. I wonder how many of these had also been on the protests.?

[oldbluefox]

Can you believe the crass stupidity of our youth. 2 Raves on Saturday night in Gtr Manchester involving around 6000. One Rape,3 stabbings and one fatal overdose. I wonder how many of these had also been on the protests.?

We can always blame the government if the ONS figures go up. Lockdown for these clowns is just a sick joke. I wonder how the relatives and loved ones of those who have died feel about this stupid behaviour.

[anniec]

Can you believe the crass stupidity of our youth. 2 Raves on Saturday night in Gtr Manchester involving around 6000. One Rape,3 stabbings and one fatal overdose. I wonder how many of these had also been on the protests.?

Please allow me to restore your faith in human nature:

[oldbluefox]

I have seen quite a few of these. They do give you hope there is something better out there than that which the hotheads are proposing. Underneath the violence, the graffiti, the damage to property and the rhetoric there is respect for each other irrespective of colour.

[anniec]

I have seen quite a few of these. They do give you hope there is something better out there than that which the hotheads are proposing. Underneath the violence, the graffiti, the damage to property and the rhetoric there is respect for each other irrespective of colour.

Good and bad in every generation, regardless of creed, race, colour, or whatever. Thank goodness we both have hope.