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[Manoverboard]

So was Bournemouth beach yesterday.

In normal times it can get far busier than that, so busy in fact that many years ago we lost one of our little boys on it.

[Onelife]

No excuse for this behaviour no matter what colour you are.

I agree Foxy and when you hear people saying. “don’t come round here bro ... this is what we do” then you know there is a deep-rooted problem that has been ignored for far to long.

I don’t really know where you start to address the issues that lead to this kind of behaviour but the government need to get a grip before it gets totally out of control. The laws of the land apply to everyone irrespective of what some think they should be allowed to do or indeed whatever grievances they may have.

[oldbluefox]

No excuse for this behaviour no matter what colour you are.

London is out of control.

Time for the police to get a grip and take back control from the mobs. How long before excuses are made for their actions as if to try and justify what happened? Looks like Ben Bradley wasn't too far from the truth.

As for social distancing that relies on the common sense of the public to do what they have been asked.
Of course if there is a second wave we can always blame Boris, the government, Dominic Cummings or even Stephen Kinnock, Tahir Ali, Jack Grealish and many others. I'm shielded anyway so we'll see what happens but if we want the infection rate down what we have seen lately is hardly encouraging and the blame lies at the feet of those who ignore the advice. No amount of tracking, tracing or apping is going to prevent that.

[david63]

the government need to get a grip before it gets totally out of control

And if they do then all the delicate little snowflakes will start crying that their human rights are being affected!

[oldbluefox]

the government need to get a grip before it gets totally out of control

And if they do then all the delicate little snowflakes will start crying that their human rights are being affected!

.......... and the racist card will be played.

[Gill W]

Is there a difference between functional, and fully functioning?
How do we know that the Apple spokesman has been in touch with all the possible points of contact, to make such a sweeping statement.

I didn’t make a sweeping statement, I was saying what I had read and and was asking a (rhetorical) question

I was told it’s in this article, but it’s behind a paywall

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/hug ... rf3nh66kq

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I was meaning the Apple spokesperson not you Gill. However you did not advise the difference between functional and fully functioning, IMO there is none, so Boris might not be lying if we are to accept that no app is as yet functioning fully.

I’m not going to play this semantics game

If you want to perform mental contortions so that you can believe that Johnson is truthful , that’s up to you.

[Mervyn and Trish]

the government need to get a grip before it gets totally out of control

And if they do then all the delicate little snowflakes will start crying that their human rights are being affected!

.......... and the racist card will be played.

Police brutality I expect.

Or a London Mayor too politically correct to call it what is is. If it was a mob of white thugs he'd been on the case fast enough.

[oldbluefox]

"while it’s certainly true that some countries have launched track and trace apps, it may be too early to know whether these apps are having the intended effect in helping to contain the spread of the pandemic".
Pippa Allen-Kinross
Full article here.
Boris lying? Not really.

[Manoverboard]

Boris lying? Not really.

Unless one is totally blinkered to the truth as presented else is desperate to blame Boris for anything and everything.

[Stephen]

And if they do then all the delicate little snowflakes will start crying that their human rights are being affected!

.......... and the racist card will be played.

Police brutality I expect.

Or a London Mayor too politically correct to call it what is is. If it was a mob of white thugs he'd been on the case fast enough.

The BLM do their cause no favours when they act like this. Personally I'd have had the rubber bullets let loose long ago.

[Manoverboard]

The BLM do their cause no favours when they act like this. Personally I'd have had the rubber bullets let loose long ago.

Don't forget the dogs

... If you want to perform mental contortions so that you can believe that Johnson is truthful , that’s up to you.

You were given the opportunity yesterday to prove otherwise and let's face it ... you were unable to.
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[towny44]

Boris lying? Not really.

Unless one is totally blinkered to the truth as presented else is desperate to blame Boris for anything and everything.

Boris haters, including just about every remain voter and the BBC, seem very keen to find reasons to question and criticise every govt. policy decision or statement from a minister. And no amount of contra evidence is ever going to change their mind.

[Onelife]

.......... and the racist card will be played.

Police brutality I expect.

Or a London Mayor too politically correct to call it what is is. If it was a mob of white thugs he'd been on the case fast enough.

The BLM do their cause no favours when they act like this. Personally I'd have had the rubber bullets let loose long ago.

I didn’t realise this was a BLM related incident or is it just your presumption because most of the thugs were black?

[Onelife]

Boris lying? Not really.

Unless one is totally blinkered to the truth as presented else is desperate to blame Boris for anything and everything.

Boris haters, including just about every remain voter and the BBC, seem very keen to find reasons to question and criticise every govt. policy decision or statement from a minister. And no amount of contra evidence is ever going to change their mind.

From a stand point that most Prime Ministers have to be evasive with the truth Boris is right up there with the best of them…. but in politics if you tell the truth nothing gets done…isn’t that the truth?

[towny44]

Police brutality I expect.

Or a London Mayor too politically correct to call it what is is. If it was a mob of white thugs he'd been on the case fast enough.

The BLM do their cause no favours when they act like this. Personally I'd have had the rubber bullets let loose long ago.

I didn’t realise this was a BLM related incident or is it just your presumption because most of the thugs were black?

I suspect that the high profile of the BLM issue following the death of George Floyd will have added to the level of anti police activity, and then it's only a stones throw to a full scale riot.

[Onelife]

The BLM do their cause no favours when they act like this. Personally I'd have had the rubber bullets let loose long ago.

I didn’t realise this was a BLM related incident or is it just your presumption because most of the thugs were black?

I suspect that the high profile of the BLM issue following the death of George Floyd will have added to the level of anti police activity, and then it's only a stones throw to a full scale riot.

I wouldn’t discount that happening John....somehow this needs to be turned around.

[Mervyn and Trish]

I don't think this was a specifically BLM event. It was, however, a mob of violent mostly, if not entirely, black people. It would, however, be nice to see BLM condemn the violence and say this is not what they stand for.

[Manoverboard]

I have posted a personal ' BLM ' view from a so called ignorant coloured footballer and his thick white mate ...

No idea what, if anything, it will add to the debate but it's here to read if you wish.

[Stephen]

Police brutality I expect.

Or a London Mayor too politically correct to call it what is is. If it was a mob of white thugs he'd been on the case fast enough.

The BLM do their cause no favours when they act like this. Personally I'd have had the rubber bullets let loose long ago.

I didn’t realise this was a BLM related incident or is it just your presumption because most of the thugs were black?

Could be and yes.......or it could be they didn't like being reminded by the police about social distancing. And being thick as two planks with no common sense they retaliated because it spoilt they're party. Just my own presumption of course.

[Midlandslass]

Such a pity that the water canon that Boris bought weren't retained.
They would have helped disperse the crowd.

[Manoverboard]

We're not Jewish but surely it's time Labour took some action against those who have an anti Semitic inclination.

[Manoverboard]

So was Bournemouth beach yesterday.

In normal times it can get far busier than that, so busy in fact that many years ago we lost one of our little boys on it.

My error, sorry TJ, I was looking at the wrong pics ... This is the one I should have viewed

[Gill W]

No it shouldn't need boarding up. Nor should the statues of Churchill, Ghandi and Mandela.


The Black Lives Matter protest was cancelled for today, as it was known that ...er... 'others' were going to be in town. At lunch time it looked like a load of drunk football supporters spoiling for a fight - the idea of 'protecting statues' is just a smokescreen. This looks like a mob out for trouble. Last week in London, the majority of protesters were peaceful with a small minority of trouble makers kicking off late in the day. This week it's a majority looking for trouble and starting it early. Loads of videos to confirm what I'm saying. Here's a couple of the least worst, and I don't think there's any swearing on them

https://twitter.com/i/status/1271761377317851136

https://twitter.com/i/status/1271801570456481794

It's easy to select videos that back up one's own view, I'll not bother.

If the savages that pretend to protest peacefully why were 27 Police Officers ( allegedly ) injured, perhaps they accidently bumped into each other.

Black Lives Matters, I believe, less today because there was a implied threat to trash the most sacred of monuments that we, as a Nation, can possible have.

Smoke screen my a*se

As you keep pecking away, Moby. Here's 4402 in it's entirety
My very last comment was about the videos.

Your very first comment, was about the videos. What I took from that comment was that you were saying that I had selected videos to confirm what I was saying and that you weren't going to to bother - which I took to mean that you were not going to bother to watch them.

That seems to me to be an entirely reasonable interpretation and this interpretation was confirmed by one other poster.

If there was another way of construing your meaning, it certainly wasn't clear, as indicated by the need for your 'translation' this morning.

Cynically, I could think you have gone full Cummings and reverse engineered an explanation to get out the situation you found your self in.

If you think that's an outrageous thing to imply, don't forget that what you said to me this morning was tantamount to calling me a liar and I didn't take kindly to that at all, so I thought it was best to say nothing.

You didn't want to leave it alone, so I've responded.

However, I will not be responding to your other demands for an explanation of what I said about Johnson yesterday. I'm not wasting my time.

[Manoverboard]

However, I will not be responding to your other demands for an explanation of what I said about Johnson yesterday. I'm not wasting my time.

So may we conclude in the knowledge that Boris wasn't a liar in this instance and that your only displayed supporting poster was ' Merv ' in his post #4706 ?

[Stephen]

Carnival shares have dropped significantly if anyone is interested in buying.