Current Affairs

[Manoverboard]

.... Failure to do this could see hundreds of thousands needing a tent.

Funily enough I've just thought of an idea about where they could pitch them
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[Onelife]

.... Failure to do this could see hundreds of thousands needing a tent.

Funily enough I've just thought of an idea about where they could pitch them
.

That’s a very generous gesture Mob…will you give them access to your downstairs loo as well?

[Mervyn and Trish]

Jenrick affair hasn't gone away yet

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -land-deal

No surprise in the left wing Guardian.

[Mervyn and Trish]

One of those saying lockdown should have happened earlier is Prof Neil Ferguson. In the real world he only suggested it seven days before it happened. To put everything into place needed to achieve it, including food deliveries for people told to shield, financial support for those told not to go to work etc. could never have been achieved overnight. Not even by Sir Smarmer.

[david63]

One of those saying lockdown should have happened earlier is Prof Neil Ferguson.

And even if it was nobody has any way of knowing what effect, good or bad, it would have had.

[Mervyn and Trish]

One of those saying lockdown should have happened earlier is Prof Neil Ferguson.

And even if it was nobody has any way of knowing what effect, good or bad, it would have had.

Not for certain no. I generally accept that it is likely to have reduced deaths by slowing the spread earlier but it is academic if it could not practically have been achieved. And hindsight! With perfect hindsight we'd have closed the borders in November. Imagine the outcry if we had.

[Onelife]

Jenrick affair hasn't gone away yet

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -land-deal

No surprise in the left wing Guardian.

In a perfect world we would like to think everything is done by the rules, but we don’t live in a perfect world, especially where business dealings are concerned. If truth be known the kind of discussions Jenrick was having are taking place every day of the working week (what is mutually beneficial to both parties seals the deal) From what I understand there were no personal backhanders other than a small donation to party funds so no real harm done as all governments participate in such deals.

If anyone thinks these kinds of agreements shouldn’t take place then gawd help us when we start negotiating deals on the world stage.

[Onelife]

One of those saying lockdown should have happened earlier is Prof Neil Ferguson. In the real world he only suggested it seven days before it happened. To put everything into place needed to achieve it, including food deliveries for people told to shield, financial support for those told not to go to work etc. could never have been achieved overnight. Not even by Sir Smarmer.

If the most vulnerable people had been told earlier, they could have survived on baked beans and water for two weeks… rather than what they are doing now which is pushing up daisies...just saying!

[oldbluefox]

One of those saying lockdown should have happened earlier is Prof Neil Ferguson.

And even if it was nobody has any way of knowing what effect, good or bad, it would have had.

Not for certain no. I generally accept that it is likely to have reduced deaths by slowing the spread earlier but it is academic if it could not practically have been achieved. And hindsight! With perfect hindsight we'd have closed the borders in November. Imagine the outcry if we had.

If I remember correctly Boris 'advised' us to stay at home and avoid crowds.That same week we had Cheltenham and the Anfield match (for which there is no clear evidence what effect that had). The virus had appeared at a budget hotel in York and there were those returning from affected parts of Italy after skiing holidays. However even then people were still going about as if nothing was afoot. People were still flying out for short breaks to Italy and Spain. It was that week that Boris instituted a proper lockdown obviously realising it could not be achieved on a voluntary basis. It was a mistake on his behalf thinking he could appeal to the common sense of the population.
Even had he introduced official lockdown a week earlier there would still have been some saying it was too late. There was never a right or wrong time which would suit everybody.

[oldbluefox]

One of those saying lockdown should have happened earlier is Prof Neil Ferguson. In the real world he only suggested it seven days before it happened. To put everything into place needed to achieve it, including food deliveries for people told to shield, financial support for those told not to go to work etc. could never have been achieved overnight. Not even by Sir Smarmer.

If the most vulnerable people had been told earlier, they could have survived on baked beans and water for two weeks… rather than what they are doing now which is pushing up daisies...just saying!

If the most vulnerable people (like me) had taken Boris' advice and started lockdown when he first mentioned it (like me) they may not be pushing up daisies now. We saw what was happening, followed the advice and did as we had been told. Many didn't.

[Onelife]

One of those saying lockdown should have happened earlier is Prof Neil Ferguson. In the real world he only suggested it seven days before it happened. To put everything into place needed to achieve it, including food deliveries for people told to shield, financial support for those told not to go to work etc. could never have been achieved overnight. Not even by Sir Smarmer.

If the most vulnerable people had been told earlier, they could have survived on baked beans and water for two weeks… rather than what they are doing now which is pushing up daisies...just saying!

If the most vulnerable people (like me) had taken Boris' advice and started lockdown when he first mentioned it (like me) they may not be pushing up daisies now. We saw what was happening, followed the advice and did as we had been told. Many didn't.

Yeah! but I bet you had spaghetti hoops as well

[towny44]

One of those saying lockdown should have happened earlier is Prof Neil Ferguson.

And even if it was nobody has any way of knowing what effect, good or bad, it would have had.

Not for certain no. I generally accept that it is likely to have reduced deaths by slowing the spread earlier but it is academic if it could not practically have been achieved. And hindsight! With perfect hindsight we'd have closed the borders in November. Imagine the outcry if we had.

I cannot remember the exact timing of each bit of the govt advice given, but I do seem to think that those over 65 (or was it 70) and those who were vulnerable, were advised to stay at home earlier than the lockdown. I certainly remember going to the supermarket for 2 or 3 weeks before the lockdown whilst all hell was breaking lose and shelves were ransacked of anything that might be eaten, such actions were certainly not conducive to sensible social distancing and must have speeded up the infection spread.
However I have no memory of a major demand for a lockdown any earlier than it was announced, if there had been I feel certain that the BBC news programmes would have highlighting them.

[Manoverboard]

Yeah! but I bet you had spaghetti hoops as well

One couldn't get any even if one wanted to because panic was in the air and some were stripping the Supermarket shelves bare in order to build their own stockpile of rations ... and we know who they both were, Oh yes !!!

[oldbluefox]

Some who are nameless were probably stockpiling toilet rolls, baked beans and hand sanitiser and storing it in their tin cans. Did you have anybody in mind Mob? You can tell me, I won't tell anybody.

[towny44]

Some who are nameless were probably stockpiling toilet rolls, baked beans and hand sanitiser and storing it in their tin cans. Did you have anybody in mind Mob? You can tell me, I won't tell anybody.

I can honestly say that I made absolutely no panic purchasing of anything during that mad 3 weeks.
That's not to say that we did not have stockpiles of some essential items, however these had all been purchased as and when they were on special offer over the previous months.

[oldbluefox]

We went shopping early on and it was pandemonium with people just grabbing everything they could carry off the shelves. They were walking out of the supermarkets with trollies stacked high. In the few weeks before I got my letter we went to the supermarket but by then there were no toilet rolls, baked beans etc and fortunately we had enough to tide us over until normal service resumed but for weeks we could not get flour. Imagine how annoyed we felt to hear some people were using flour to make play-doh to amuse their little ones!!!! What a waste when others were going short. However worse things happen at sea and we just had to adapt.
However I dread to think what would happen if there was a war since I don't get the impression so many people work for each other. In many (not all) instances it was every man for himself. It seems to be little different now as far as lockdown is concerned.

[Onelife]

Some who are nameless were probably stockpiling toilet rolls, baked beans and hand sanitiser and storing it in their tin cans. Did you have anybody in mind Mob? You can tell me, I won't tell anybody.

Whoever it was they need shooting.... disgraceful behaviour

[Stephen]

Some who are nameless were probably stockpiling toilet rolls, baked beans and hand sanitiser and storing it in their tin cans. Did you have anybody in mind Mob? You can tell me, I won't tell anybody.

Whoever it was they need shooting.... disgraceful behaviour

Any last requests Keith

[Onelife]

Some who are nameless were probably stockpiling toilet rolls, baked beans and hand sanitiser and storing it in their tin cans. Did you have anybody in mind Mob? You can tell me, I won't tell anybody.

I can honestly say that I made absolutely no panic purchasing of anything during that mad 3 weeks.
That's not to say that we did not have stockpiles of some essential items, however these had all been purchased as and when they were on special offer over the previous months.

As can we John…we did all or ours while most of you were debating Brexit on here …..well we all now know the lie of the land so none of you should run out over winter should the shelves run dry again.

[Onelife]

Some who are nameless were probably stockpiling toilet rolls, baked beans and hand sanitiser and storing it in their tin cans. Did you have anybody in mind Mob? You can tell me, I won't tell anybody.

Whoever it was they need shooting.... disgraceful behaviour

Any last requests Keith

Yes!...can you feed the dog....there's tons of food in the shed

[Gill W]

I’ve just put my name forward for Gavin Williamsons soon to be vacant job.

Let’s get the kids back to school is the cry …well if they are wanting them back at school, they should start coming up with some sensible workable plans…

The most sensible plan would be to stream children on their ability irrespective of their age and them allocate one class room for each group thereby cutting down on the need to move from one class room to the other. A few teachers roaming the corridors has less risk than hundreds of kids going from one class room to another.

Let me know if you’re willing to give me a reference

Well, to be fair Onelife, you are probably better qualified than Williamson to do the job.

He has no discernable talent other than managing to blag himself jobs.

Your idea , although not new, is obviously workable.

A school in Kent has set up marquees on the playing fields as classrooms. That is the kind of lateral thinking that is needed.
It's a win/win as the Marquee company currently have no customers.

Given that virtually every business has figured out a way to reopen safely while complying with guidelines, it's beyond comprehension that head teachers lack the ability to do similar.

Where there is a will etc.

Marquees might be ok in summer, but when its blowing a gale in autumn or freezing cold in winter, it might be a different story!

[Gill W]

Jenrick affair hasn't gone away yet

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -land-deal

No surprise in the left wing Guardian.

Even if it wasn't reported, the housing select committee aren't dropping it yet

[Gill W]

Jenrick affair hasn't gone away yet

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -land-deal

No surprise in the left wing Guardian.

In a perfect world we would like to think everything is done by the rules, but we don’t live in a perfect world, especially where business dealings are concerned. If truth be known the kind of discussions Jenrick was having are taking place every day of the working week (what is mutually beneficial to both parties seals the deal) From what I understand there were no personal backhanders other than a small donation to party funds so no real harm done as all governments participate in such deals.

If anyone thinks these kinds of agreements shouldn’t take place then gawd help us when we start negotiating deals on the world stage.

Let's see how Jenrick performs under the scrutiny of the Housing Select Committee

[Jonty S1]

There is a briefing/news conference today 4.30 BBC1, probably starting at 5.00.
Jon

[Manoverboard]

Some who are nameless were probably stockpiling toilet rolls, baked beans and hand sanitiser and storing it in their tin cans. Did you have anybody in mind Mob? You can tell me, I won't tell anybody.

Only one of them has a tin can as far as I know but that person has a new friend that agrees with everything he says ... can't say any more or I'll be letting the dog cat out of the bag

ps ....don't tell anybody else, ok
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