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Manoverboard wrote: 16 Aug 2020, 13:49
However .. keeping them at a lower level will mean a re-take for many which in turn means a far higher level trying to get into Uni next year. Becomes a serious problem if foreign students return in the same timescale :?
That assumes they were genuinely bright enough to obtain the assessed grade in the first place.
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Ide bee serprized iff enny overm got a deesent Inglish graid. Wot der ya fink. Innit

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Stephen wrote: 16 Aug 2020, 15:05
Ide bee serprized iff enny overm got a deesent Inglish graid. Wot der ya fink. Innit
You'dev parsed wiff fly in cullers at Cold-chest-a Uni :thumbup:
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Manoverboard wrote: 16 Aug 2020, 15:42
Stephen wrote: 16 Aug 2020, 15:05
Ide bee serprized iff enny overm got a deesent Inglish graid. Wot der ya fink. Innit
You'dev parsed wiff fly in cullers at Cold-chest-a Uni :thumbup:
dats der plase forw tofs innit

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Boris needs to announce that any new review cannot produce a greater number of passes than currently, therefore any added grades will result in someone, who currently thinks they have a good grade, being downgraded. That should stifle the current complaints.
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towny44 wrote: 16 Aug 2020, 22:06
Boris needs to announce that any new review cannot produce a greater number of passes than currently, therefore any added grades will result in someone, who currently thinks they have a good grade, being downgraded. That should stifle the current complaints.
I would do it differently. For those complaining about their grades tell them that they have the choice of accepting their grades or coming in next week to actually sit the exams they have a complaint about. Their final grade will be based 100% upon their performance in those exams ... the blur you are seeing are the students running for the doors.

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Great idea Ken. That would do it for sure.

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Perhaps they could do it a number of times until they get the mark they would accept.
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But really, whose stupid idea was it to show the teachers expected grade anyway?
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I wonder how many are "jumping on the bandwagon" and are complaining about their low grades even though those are the grades (or better than) they would have got anyway.

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Kendhni wrote: 17 Aug 2020, 08:12
I would do it differently. For those complaining about their grades tell them that they have the choice of accepting their grades or coming in next week to actually sit the exams they have a complaint about. Their final grade will be based 100% upon their performance in those exams ... the blur you are seeing are the students running for the doors.
They would still complain - not enough time to revise, emotional stress and upset, lack of tuition, course not completed. 'It's just not fair!!' although sadly that's life in an adult world and you have to learn to take the rough with the smooth. There was a headteacher on TV this morning saying the results do not match the amount of effort put in. On that basis I should have been an A* student for the number of times I had 'Tries hard' on my school reports. No doubt the next bit should have read '................but just not good enough!!'
I am a little bemused by what the pass mark is for an A*. I would have suspected it would be 90%+ but have heard varying reports it is 70%+ which, to my mind is not an A+. Does anybody know?
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david63 wrote: 17 Aug 2020, 09:40
I wonder how many are "jumping on the bandwagon" and are complaining about their low grades even though those are the grades (or better than) they would have got anyway.
I feel sure they wouldn't do that!!!! :angel:
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Am I missing something here.

A. You do the exam paper

B. It's marked

C. You get the grade associated with that mark. End of

I'm sure it's more complicated than that, which is part of the problem.

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Stephen wrote: 17 Aug 2020, 10:33
which is part of the problem.
This year - all three

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Too late now, but if each school had been given the grades results for each subject that would have been expected, and teachers had been asked to award these according to their assessment of their pupils ability, then the teachers would have been the ones to field any student outrage.
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Teachers fielding the outrage - that couldn't be right It's got to be the governments fault regardless.

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Clophill4 wrote: 17 Aug 2020, 11:42
Teachers fielding the outrage - that couldn't be right It's got to be the governments fault regardless.
Why?
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oldbluefox wrote: 17 Aug 2020, 10:03
I am a little bemused by what the pass mark is for an A*. I would have suspected it would be 90%+ but have heard varying reports it is 70%+ which, to my mind is not an A+. Does anybody know?
The 70% would be in the ball park of what I was once told. However I remember someone saying that the mark itself is not important since they basically sort by the mark and then the top X% are given an A (or whatever). The idea was that if an exam was particularly difficult with (e.g.) everyone getting 60% or less then the top X% still got 'A's: similarly if it was particularly easy with everyone getting 90% plus on it then again only the top X% got 'A's. I can see some logic in this.

What I can't remember though is if this was in relation to the new system or the old O/A levels.

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Why can we not give all students an A**++ for all subjects? Seems simple to me!!


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towny44 wrote: 17 Aug 2020, 12:07
Clophill4 wrote: 17 Aug 2020, 11:42
Teachers fielding the outrage - that couldn't be right It's got to be the governments fault regardless.
Why?
I was being sarcastic

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Clophill4 wrote: 17 Aug 2020, 13:11
towny44 wrote: 17 Aug 2020, 12:07
Clophill4 wrote: 17 Aug 2020, 11:42
Teachers fielding the outrage - that couldn't be right It's got to be the governments fault regardless.
Why?
I was being sarcastic
I'm surprised ' Towny ' didn't realise that, he is after all the Forum expert in such matters :sarcasm:

ps .... using a sarcastic emoticon :sarcasm: may be a plan :wave:
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Clophill4 wrote: 17 Aug 2020, 13:11
towny44 wrote: 17 Aug 2020, 12:07
Clophill4 wrote: 17 Aug 2020, 11:42
Teachers fielding the outrage - that couldn't be right It's got to be the governments fault regardless.
Why?
I was being sarcastic
Thank you for that.
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Those student that fell below their expected grades and therefore failed to get a place at the university of their choice should be allowed to put their case to the university by way of interview. Some won't bother and accept their second/ third choices but for those who feel they have been wrongly assessed they have every right to challenge that decision imo.

Three students who got conditional offers from Oxford but failed to get the grades have since been offered places anyway.....lucky for theses students that the university/s used their own judgment on whether they gained the necessary grades.

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david63 wrote: 17 Aug 2020, 12:56
Why can we not give all students an A**++ for all subjects? Seems simple to me!!
This is what my husband has been saying for days :crazy: But there would still be discontent :sarcasm:
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Onelife wrote: 17 Aug 2020, 13:47
the university/s used their own judgment on whether they gained the necessary grades.
Or maybe that they need to take as many students as possible as there will be very few, if any, profitable overseas students.

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