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[Mervyn and Trish]

They also include their overseas territories in their figures. As always the devil is in the detail.

And how many is that?

Oh dear QB. You are being a little disingenuous not answering my question. So I looked it up. The devil really is in the detail, as you rightly say.

The total population of the French Overseas Territories is 2,790,000.

Added to their home population gives a total of around 70,000,000.

Ours is 67,000,000.

That means their population is 4.5% more than ours.

But they have 300% more new cases.

Still think it's safer there than here?

[Onelife]

They also include their overseas territories in their figures. As always the devil is in the detail.

And how many is that?

Oh dear QB. You are being a little disingenuous not answering my question. So I looked it up. The devil really is in the detail, as you rightly say.

The total population of the French Overseas Territories is 2,790,000.

Added to their home population gives a total of around 70,000,000.

Ours is 67,000,000.

That means their population is 4.5% more than ours.

But they have 300% more new cases.

Still think it's safer there than here?

It appears I’m not the only smart a*se on this forum

[MaureenB]

Despite the hardships we endured (and they were hardships) I don't ever remember lamenting my/our lot. People just got on with it.
I remember when we were first married we didn't have a washing machine so we filled the bath, put our washing in and then sat on the side of the bath treading them for half an hour.

Oh my Lord I had forgotten that My husband and I did the very same thing in the early/mid seventies We scraped the mortgage together every month but had not a lot left over for luxuries like washing machines and food Happy Days though
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[Mervyn and Trish]

They also include their overseas territories in their figures. As always the devil is in the detail.

And how many is that?

Oh dear QB. You are being a little disingenuous not answering my question. So I looked it up. The devil really is in the detail, as you rightly say.

The total population of the French Overseas Territories is 2,790,000.

Added to their home population gives a total of around 70,000,000.

Ours is 67,000,000.

That means their population is 4.5% more than ours.

But they have 300% more new cases.

Still think it's safer there than here?

It appears I’m not the only smart a*se on this forum

Maybe not. But you're better at it

[Onelife]

Oh dear QB. You are being a little disingenuous not answering my question. So I looked it up. The devil really is in the detail, as you rightly say.

The total population of the French Overseas Territories is 2,790,000.

Added to their home population gives a total of around 70,000,000.

Ours is 67,000,000.

That means their population is 4.5% more than ours.

But they have 300% more new cases.

Still think it's safer there than here?

It appears I’m not the only smart a*se on this forum

Maybe not. But you're better at it

You’re way to kind Sir Merv…I thought you would come back with “yes’ I’m smart, you’re the a***

Oh! how the truth hurts

[Quizzical Bob]

They also include their overseas territories in their figures. As always the devil is in the detail.

And how many is that?

Oh dear QB. You are being a little disingenuous not answering my question. So I looked it up. The devil really is in the detail, as you rightly say.

The total population of the French Overseas Territories is 2,790,000.

Added to their home population gives a total of around 70,000,000.

Ours is 67,000,000.

That means their population is 4.5% more than ours.

But they have 300% more new cases.

Still think it's safer there than here?

That’s about as meaningless a figure as you could make up. 300% of what?

As I said before, the devil is in the detail. You have to consider the distribution of these cases. If they are all occurring in nightclubs amongst the 20 to 40 year olds then someone like me has zero chance of catching it. Vast areas of a France have incidences much lower than large areas of the UK. Charente-Maritime had three cases. Not deaths, cases.

https://www.connexionfrance.com/French- ... increasing

“In my opinion it is a decision that concerns public health, but also in a big way, politics,” he said, adding that the government has to be seen as doing something.

Latest figures from the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control show that in the past two weeks the UK has had an incidence of 16.5 cases of Covid-19 per 100,000 people. France currently has 26. In terms of the number of deaths from the virus, the UK recorded 1.3 per 100,000 people in the past two weeks, with France recording 0.2 in the same time-frame.

[screwy]

The frogs have fewer deaths because they normally surrender at the first sign of danger..
Just saying.

[Stephen]

Oh dear QB. You are being a little disingenuous not answering my question. So I looked it up. The devil really is in the detail, as you rightly say.

The total population of the French Overseas Territories is 2,790,000.

Added to their home population gives a total of around 70,000,000.

Ours is 67,000,000.

That means their population is 4.5% more than ours.

But they have 300% more new cases.

Still think it's safer there than here?

It appears I’m not the only smart a*se on this forum

Maybe not. But you're better at it

Gold medal standard

[Onelife]

It appears I’m not the only smart a*se on this forum

Maybe not. But you're better at it

Gold medal standard

It takes a thick skin and self-sacrifice to get to where I am today

[david63]

It takes a thick skin and self-sacrifice to get to where I am today

And where exactly is that?

[barney]

They also include their overseas territories in their figures. As always the devil is in the detail.

And how many is that?

Oh dear QB. You are being a little disingenuous not answering my question. So I looked it up. The devil really is in the detail, as you rightly say.

The total population of the French Overseas Territories is 2,790,000.

Added to their home population gives a total of around 70,000,000.

Ours is 67,000,000.

That means their population is 4.5% more than ours.

But they have 300% more new cases.

Still think it's safer there than here?

That’s about as meaningless a figure as you could make up. 300% of what?

As I said before, the devil is in the detail. You have to consider the distribution of these cases. If they are all occurring in nightclubs amongst the 20 to 40 year olds then someone like me has zero chance of catching it. Vast areas of a France have incidences much lower than large areas of the UK. Charente-Maritime had three cases. Not deaths, cases.

https://www.connexionfrance.com/French- ... increasing

“In my opinion it is a decision that concerns public health, but also in a big way, politics,” he said, adding that the government has to be seen as doing something.

Latest figures from the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control show that in the past two weeks the UK has had an incidence of 16.5 cases of Covid-19 per 100,000 people. France currently has 26. In terms of the number of deaths from the virus, the UK recorded 1.3 per 100,000 people in the past two weeks, with France recording 0.2 in the same time-frame.

A bit unusual for you to produce a publication that reinforces my original point that the virus is made worse by international travel.
The point of rural France having low figures also applies to the U.K..
We live in Torridge.
Torridge has had twelve cases in total and zero deaths.
We have not had a single confirmed case for over three months, despite an influx of tourists from other parts of the U.K..

Only a fool would argue that country A is safer than country B because it can change in a heartbeat.

[Onelife]

It takes a thick skin and self-sacrifice to get to where I am today

And where exactly is that?

I’m going to have to let you ponder on that one David

[Mervyn and Trish]

That’s about as meaningless a figure as you could make up. 300% of what?

300% more new cases than the UK. That is the comparison we were discussing I think.

Our new cases 1009. France 4377. (Worldometer figures). You have a degree so I assume you also have GCE maths. So you can do the sum.

As I said before, the devil is in the detail. You have to consider the distribution of these cases. If they are all occurring in nightclubs amongst the 20 to 40 year olds then someone like me has zero chance of catching it. Vast areas of a France have incidences much lower than large areas of the UK. Charente-Maritime had three cases. Not deaths, cases.

And areas of France have incidence much higher than large areas of the UK. Ours are in clusters too. Our area had zero. Cases and deaths.

Latest figures from the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control show that in the past two weeks the UK has had an incidence of 16.5 cases of Covid-19 per 100,000 people. France currently has 26.

The issue is that France's cases are rising rapidly. Ours aren't.

In terms of the number of deaths from the virus, the UK recorded 1.3 per 100,000 people in the past two weeks, with France recording 0.2 in the same time-frame.

August 20th. UK deaths 6. France deaths 12. (Worldometer) Twice as many. And that reflects the case position weeks back.

But if you fancy a holiday in France don't let me stop you.

[Mervyn and Trish]

I've noticed every time a new country is included in the quarantine requirement many people rush to criticise our own country and say it is much safer in France/Poland etc than here.

But thank you QB for confirming my original point!

[barney]

I've noticed every time a new country is included in the quarantine requirement many people rush to criticise our own country and say it is much safer in France/Poland etc than here.

But thank you QB for confirming my original point!

I’ve also noticed this habitual whinging about pretty much everything that this government do from some quarters.
I’m no Boris lover but imposing quarantine on other countries is nothing but common sense.
To put into perspective, they are not saying that you cannot travel, simply if you choose to, then quarantine on return.
The hypocrisy from some is incredible.
Haven’t done enough ..... done too much!
Can’t have it both ways!

Malta had a quarantine on anyone arriving from the U.K. until recently, then relaxed it
Three weeks later we impose a quarantine on returnees because their R value has gone through the roof and they are outraged.
Had they not allowed party weekends and raves, they probably would have been fine.
It’s on them not us.

If you ever read foreign news, you quickly realise that the U.K. is in no way unique and people from all across the world moan about their government’s actions, just as we do.
Until a vaccine, it’s with us. All of us and nowhere is safer than your own house.

[david63]

One thing that many countries are now saying is that the problem is with the younger people who are totally ignoring the rules.

Did anyone see the pictures this last week about GCSE results where young people were hugging one another - and not a face covering in sight!

Almost every day if you are out there groups of four, five, six youngsters going around together with no social distancing or face coverings. It's these people that we somehow have to get the message across to - and sooner rather than later.

[Onelife]

One thing that many countries are now saying is that the problem is with the younger people who are totally ignoring the rules.

Did anyone see the pictures this last week about GCSE results where young people were hugging one another - and not a face covering in sight!

Almost every day if you are out there groups of four, five, six youngsters going around together with no social distancing or face coverings. It's these people that we somehow have to get the message across to - and sooner rather than later.

Yes! David…I saw that as well…which is the reason I think we will see big spikes in infections when they return to school.
Whilst I understand there must be a return to school, I can understand why there is some apprehension on the part of older teachers who will be put at a higher risk.

[barney]

It’s clearly a disease that affects older people more, so youngsters will probably catch it , get over it and get on with their lives.
Meanwhile Granny ........

[oldbluefox]

It’s clearly a disease that affects older people more, so youngsters will probably catch it , pass it on to granny, get over it and get on with their lives.
Meanwhile Granny ........

[Onelife]

I wonder what happened to Granny

[Stephen]

I wonder what happened to Granny

Upstairs playing her harp

[Mervyn and Trish]

The problem will again be most seen in multi-generational homes, of which there are more in Ethnic Minority Communities and in poorer areas. So of course this will again be reported as some sort of discrimination by government against these groups. Whereas those living in those home should be urging their young people particularly to take greater care.

[Mervyn and Trish]

Interesting quote from someone returning from Croatia.

"They should have never let us go abroad, it’s a disgrace, we knew this could happen but there was no support, no advice from the Government, we were pretty much forgotten about, we were all on our own."

So in spite of you knowing it could happen you couldn't make a decision for yourself and expected them to order you not to go?

And I expect if they had you would have been whinging about that too.

Here's a radical idea. Why don't these people start taking some responsibility for themselves?

I don't care that the government says I ain't rushing off anywhere any time soon.

[Stephen]

The problem will again be most seen in multi-generational homes, of which there are more in Ethnic Minority Communities and in poorer areas. So of course this will again be reported as some sort of discrimination by government against these groups. Whereas those living in those home should be urging their young people particularly to take greater care.

Good luck with that. Bring in a curfew for the worst areas. Anyone caught, shoot on sight.

[Manoverboard]

... Here's a radical idea. Why don't these people start taking some responsibility for themselves?

Because it is so much easier to blame somebody else when things go pear shaped ... seemples