Mask wearing

[Kendhni]

Just read this story https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54075771

As someone with severe asthma I fully back the pilots decision. Anybody can find and print off bits of paper like that, the pilot was right to reject it - the biggest mistake was that such paper slips were made available on public websites. There should be no dispute about who does and who does not wear masks, if you cannot wear a mask then you should not be allowed into anywhere that requires a mask ... full stop, no exemptions.

However, in this instance, there was an easy way to resolve this, ask him to produce his inhalers - no person that suffers from severe asthma will go anywhere without their inhalers at hand - I have to carry 2 inhalers and like my glasses and wallet they are always on my person. Far too many selfish vermin are already abusing these 'exemption' tickets making a mockery of the system for those that genuinely need them.

I am exempt but I choose to protect others by wearing a mask - yes I can hyper ventilate, yes I can feel severe breathing restrictions and at the minute I can only tolerate one for about 20-30 minutes max before I have to remove it and take in large gulps of air. What I have found though is that the light weight or disposable ones are much easier to tolerate than the bigger heavier masks.

[Manoverboard]

There will always be some who will cheat the system but it has to be right that some people who should not need to wear a mask should not need to but that certification should be available to allow that to happen. The pilot or whoever has a real responsibility to all passengers so there needs to be a system of some sort in place.

The other aspect of course is that the ' sufferer ' without a mask places their own life at greater risk by not wearing a mask so would logically only do so as a last resort. In such circumstances he / she would be out of their mind to consider taking any sort of flight that wasn't an emergency.
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[Stephen]

Supermarkets don't want to know and are quite happy to let people walk around the store without challenging them as to why they are not wearing a mask.

My thoughts are, the in-store security staff should ask at the entrance to the store in a polite and professional manner why that person isn't wearing a mask. If they cannot produce some form of evidence that makes them exempt then they should be refused entry. Simple

Why should the majority conform yet the minority feel they can do as they like and s*d everyone else.

[Onelife]

Agree Stephen

Every food supermarket should have a 3 metre sign at the entrance saying DO NOT ENTER THIS STORE WITHOUT A FACECOVERING..

[towny44]

What we have to remember though, is that Masks do very little to prevent the wearer from being infected if they get too close to someone with covid. However they do help to reduce the virus levels that an infected mask wearer will spread into the air, which rather makes a mockery of the decision to allow shop staff not to wear a mask; but I guess most of us would be very unhappy having to wear a mask all day.

[barney]

Agree Stephen

Every food supermarket should have a 3 metre sign at the entrance saying DO NOT ENTER THIS STORE WITHOUT A FACECOVERING..

My missus does.
She has a sign up politely informing that mask wearing and hand sanitising is mandatory.
It’s not difficult to do.
She has actually turned away business because a few couldn’t/wouldn’t comply.

[Onelife]

I feel sorry for anyone who suffers with athsma, not just because it can be very debilitating but also from the psychologically aspects of wearing a mask .....but as Mob has said, the wellbeing of all the passengers must be paramount in these types of situations so the pilot gets a from me.

[Onelife]

Agree Stephen

Every food supermarket should have a 3 metre sign at the entrance saying DO NOT ENTER THIS STORE WITHOUT A FACECOVERING..

My missus does.
She has a sign up politely informing that mask wearing and hand sanitising is mandatory.
It’s not difficult to do.
She has actually turned away business because a few couldn’t/wouldn’t comply.

The way to go Barney...your wife gets a from me

[david63]

Every food supermarket should have a 3 metre sign at the entrance saying DO NOT ENTER THIS STORE WITHOUT A FACECOVERING..

They do have something similar - or at least ours does.

There are two issues here - the first is that it has been clearly stated that it is not the shops responsibility to enforce the wearing of masks, or for that matter the correct wearing of masks. I have lost count of the number of mask wearers that think it is OK to just cover their mouth and not their nose - which I suppose is a step up from wearing it around their chin!

The other issue is that to get a "medical exemption certificate" from a GP is virtually impossible at the moment.

[Onelife]

Every food supermarket should have a 3 metre sign at the entrance saying DO NOT ENTER THIS STORE WITHOUT A FACECOVERING..

They do have something similar - or at least ours does.

There are two issues here - the first is that it has been clearly stated that it is not the shops responsibility to enforce the wearing of masks, or for that matter the correct wearing of masks. I have lost count of the number of mask wearers that think it is OK to just cover their mouth and not their nose - which I suppose is a step up from wearing it around their chin!

The other issue is that to get a "medical exemption certificate" from a GP is virtually impossible at the moment.

Hi David…valid points…with regards to the issuing of medical exception certificates this is an issue whereby the patient would have to insist that one be issued… I don’t believe any Doctors practice would be overrun with these kinds of requests.

Most large supermarkets have store security guards so I can’t see there being a problem with them…as for the smaller shop outlets then a polite F**K off… get yourself a mask should suffice.

[Stephen]

Every food supermarket should have a 3 metre sign at the entrance saying DO NOT ENTER THIS STORE WITHOUT A FACECOVERING..

They do have something similar - or at least ours does.

There are two issues here - the first is that it has been clearly stated that it is not the shops responsibility to enforce the wearing of masks, or for that matter the correct wearing of masks. I have lost count of the number of mask wearers that think it is OK to just cover their mouth and not their nose - which I suppose is a step up from wearing it around their chin!

The other issue is that to get a "medical exemption certificate" from a GP is virtually impossible at the moment.

Hi David…valid points…with regards to the issuing of medical exception certificates this is an issue whereby the patient would have to insist that one be issued… I don’t believe any Doctors practice would be overrun with these kinds of requests.

Most large supermarkets have store security guards so I can’t see there being a problem with them…as for the smaller shop outlets then a polite F**K off… get yourself a mask should suffice.

Sometimes the direct approach is all some people understand

[barney]

I popped up to Tesco this morning at East - the - Water (to get what I went for yesterday but forgot ) and it was 100% compliance with face masks from the public.
None of the staff that I saw wore one.
There is no security at this store so they just rely on people's common sense.

Given that we have so far got off virtually scott free down here, I wonder if it's due to people generally being sensible.

Many were seriously concerned when the tourists arrived , but nothing much has changed covid wise.

[Stephen]

Every food supermarket should have a 3 metre sign at the entrance saying DO NOT ENTER THIS STORE WITHOUT A FACECOVERING..

They do have something similar - or at least ours does.

There are two issues here - the first is that it has been clearly stated that it is not the shops responsibility to enforce the wearing of masks, or for that matter the correct wearing of masks. I have lost count of the number of mask wearers that think it is OK to just cover their mouth and not their nose - which I suppose is a step up from wearing it around their chin!

The other issue is that to get a "medical exemption certificate" from a GP is virtually impossible at the moment.

Which makes it a pointless exercise. If the public are too thick to comply then the retail trade need to be made to start taking some responsibility.

[barney]

Every food supermarket should have a 3 metre sign at the entrance saying DO NOT ENTER THIS STORE WITHOUT A FACECOVERING..

They do have something similar - or at least ours does.

There are two issues here - the first is that it has been clearly stated that it is not the shops responsibility to enforce the wearing of masks, or for that matter the correct wearing of masks. I have lost count of the number of mask wearers that think it is OK to just cover their mouth and not their nose - which I suppose is a step up from wearing it around their chin!

The other issue is that to get a "medical exemption certificate" from a GP is virtually impossible at the moment.

Which makes it a pointless exercise. If the public are too thick to comply then the retail trade need to be made to start taking some responsibility.

I’m not sure how Stephen.
How on earth would a slip of a girl working on minimum wage in a supermarket stop a six foot brickie from coming in without a mask?
How would you personally enforce it if you worked there?
Nice ideas are often not practical.
Call the police?
There are about ten covering hundreds of miles down here.
He’d have finished his shopping and his dinner before the old bill turned up

[Onelife]

They do have something similar - or at least ours does.

There are two issues here - the first is that it has been clearly stated that it is not the shops responsibility to enforce the wearing of masks, or for that matter the correct wearing of masks. I have lost count of the number of mask wearers that think it is OK to just cover their mouth and not their nose - which I suppose is a step up from wearing it around their chin!

The other issue is that to get a "medical exemption certificate" from a GP is virtually impossible at the moment.

Which makes it a pointless exercise. If the public are too thick to comply then the retail trade need to be made to start taking some responsibility.

I’m not sure how Stephen.
How on earth would a slip of a girl working on minimum wage in a supermarket stop a six foot brickie from coming in without a mask?
How would you personally enforce it if you worked there?
Nice ideas are often not practical.
Call the police?
There are about ten covering hundreds of miles down here.
He’d have finished his shopping and his dinner before the old bill turned up

Are you pulling Stephens leg Barney? Any store manager worth their salt would be able to deal with the situations you describe…even small shop outlets have security cameras and should the teeny weeny dressed in a pink bikini shop girl get affronted buy Bob the Builder it will all be on camera for later prosecution…if Bob the builder is stupid enough to cross the line then its going to be the most expensive Cream crackers he’s ever purchased….he won’t do it again nor will others once the word gets around.

[Stephen]

I've seen the young slip of a thing turn away people on board ship for being improperly dressed when trying to enter the bar. She had no quarms about it.

How would I deal with it, simple. No mask you don't come in. And if they want to cut up rough then phone plod via 999. And as Keith said there are cameras everywhere these days.

[Manoverboard]

I refer you to Barney .... who said

" Call the police?
There are about ten covering hundreds of miles down here.
He’d have finished his shopping and his dinner before the old bill turned up "

It must all be very different in downtown Essex who are used to dealing with local thugs

[Onelife]

I refer you to Barney .... who said

" Call the police?
There are about ten covering hundreds of miles down here.
He’d have finished his shopping and his dinner before the old bill turned up "

It must all be very different in downtown Essex who are used to dealing with local thugs

And there was me thinking Stephen lived down souf

[Stephen]

I refer you to Barney .... who said

" Call the police?
There are about ten covering hundreds of miles down here.
He’d have finished his shopping and his dinner before the old bill turned up "

It must all be very different in downtown Essex who are used to dealing with local thugs

You're probably right, but at least they get dealt with.

But its not a question of dealing with thugs its ensuring everyone stays safe in the current situation. The ones on here who prefer to make light of it at every opportunity makes me wonder if they too turn a blind eye with customers or worse still don't bother with a mask themselves when shopping in stores.

[Stephen]

I refer you to Barney .... who said

" Call the police?
There are about ten covering hundreds of miles down here.
He’d have finished his shopping and his dinner before the old bill turned up "

Currently residing in the depths of Devon

It must all be very different in downtown Essex who are used to dealing with local thugs

And there was me thinking Stephen lived down souf

Only temporarily, but could be permanent.......one day. So keep on my good side Moby

[Manoverboard]

I refer you to Barney .... who said

" Call the police?
There are about ten covering hundreds of miles down here.
He’d have finished his shopping and his dinner before the old bill turned up "

It must all be very different in downtown Essex who are used to dealing with local thugs

You're probably right, but at least they get dealt with.

But its not a question of dealing with thugs its ensuring everyone stays safe in the current situation. The ones on here who prefer to make light of it at every opportunity makes me wonder if they too turn a blind eye with customers or worse still don't bother with a mask themselves when shopping in stores.

You are right, it's actually a question about whether the rural areas have enough manpower to be able to cope with 999 calls which relate to masks.

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[Stephen]

Well have whip round then you tight s*ds

[oldbluefox]

In the early days of Covid we went to Aldi but only one customer was allowed in at a time so I opted to wait outside. There was literally a young slip of a lass on the door and she was a right tartar. I was mightily impressed as she let nobody in unless they followed her rules.
Anybody forcing their way in should be made to pay by credit card and their details passed to the police for prosecution. Hand out a few 3 figure fines and the message would soon get round.
Evidence of medical condition only should give exemption - and that excludes baldies from Essex and Theresa lovers!!! They are not medical conditions!!!

[Onelife]

In the early days of Covid we went to Aldi but only one customer was allowed in at a time so I opted to wait outside. There was literally a young slip of a lass on the door and she was a right tartar. I was mightily impressed as she let nobody in unless they followed her rules.
Anybody forcing their way in should be made to pay by credit card and their details passed to the police for prosecution. Hand out a few 3 figure fines and the message would soon get round.
Evidence of medical condition only should give exemption - and that excludes baldies from Essex and Theresa lovers!!! They are not medical conditions!!!

Its funny how three word can spoil a whole post

[kaymar]

In the early days of Covid we went to Aldi but only one customer was allowed in at a time so I opted to wait outside. There was literally a young slip of a lass on the door and she was a right tartar. I was mightily impressed as she let nobody in unless they followed her rules.

Ah, yes, but she would be a Cumbrian. They're well 'ard up theer, tha knows.