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[screwy]

Death penalty for Cop Killers, any takers.

No because courts can make mistakes that are discovered later. But I would support a standard non variable whole life sentence with no parole possibility ever. In the harshest prison available.

I don’t think there would be a problem in this case..! Even our learned Judges couldn’t screw this up.! As for the harshest prison,well he would need to go to South America or somewhere.

[screwy]

Let’s see if the arrogant p**** Hamilton wears a shirt in support of the officer..?

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[Mervyn and Trish]

Let’s see if the arrogant p**** Hamilton wears a shirt in support of the officer..?

Nah. The officer wasn't black. Only black lives matter.

[towny44]

Let’s see if the arrogant p**** Hamilton wears a shirt in support of the officer..?

Nah. The officer wasn't black. Only black lives matter.

He was a New Zealander and from his name I think he may have a bit of Maori ancestry.

[screwy]

So it was Black on Black.? Albeit the gunman was of Sri Lankan heritage. Bit tongue in cheek I know but you know what I mean.

[Mervyn and Trish]

So here's how to see your family if there are more than 6 of them. Astonishingly I heard today that demos are not covered by the rule. So don't invite your family for Sunday lunch. Invite them for a demo.

[Manoverboard]

So here's how to see your family if there are more than 6 of them. Astonishingly I heard today that demos are not covered by the rule. So don't invite your family for Sunday lunch. Invite them for a demo.

The demo is being dispersed, no way do I want my family lunch to be disperseed ... albeit we cannot have one .

[Gill W]

Apparently the protest had been ‘risk assessed’ and was broken up because the crowd didn’t adhere to the terms of the risk assessment.

What a surprise..... not

[Mervyn and Trish]

And now we have panic buying of toilet rolls again. Of course this is in no way connected with the media showing pictures of empty shelves.

[screwy]

Just force feed everyone Co-Codamol, everyone gets constipated. No need for bog rolls...

[Kendhni]

I can't believe there are so many blatantly stupid people in what is meant to be a first world country.

[Stephen]

Agree there Ken.

[david63]

I can't believe there are so many blatantly stupid people in what is meant to be a first world country.

I despair.

Last night we went to one of our local pub/restaurants for a meal (have to get out now and again). When we arrived all the staff were wearing masks and all the patrons were wearing masks when they moved around the restaurant - this is good we thought.

From where our table was we could see everyone coming in - first there is the couple who "did not know" that face coverings were required. Then there was the elderly couple who were "exempt" and the final straw was a youngish couple where she was wearing a mask and he (who thought he was a macho man) was carrying his.

If it was my restaurant I would have a big sign at the door "NO MASK - NO ENTRY" - it really is as simple as that. And for those who would like to think that they are "exempt" then if you cannot wear a mask for two minutes while you are seated at your table then you should not be in such a place.

Now today the Labour Party are saying that university students must be allowed home for Christmas - excuse me but the students have brought this on themselves, and they are all old enough to understand what is happening. By all means allow them home for Christmas on the proviso that both them and their families go into quarantine for two weeks and that they are expelled from the university. This is real life and these students need to learn quickly the way it works - you cannot have/do everything that you want without there being consequences.

Today's rant over

[Manoverboard]

Of course the media have interviewed no one who likes it. Just a selection of those who can't or won't use it. "I couldn't download it on my tablet ". No of course you couldn't. It's a phone app ...

I have been told that if the brand is, say, ' Samsung ' and the phone plus the tablet both use ' Android ' then it should be possible to download it providing both are Wi-Fi devices ... yes / no ?

[towny44]

Of course the media have interviewed no one who likes it. Just a selection of those who can't or won't use it. "I couldn't download it on my tablet ". No of course you couldn't. It's a phone app ...

I have been told that if the brand is, say, ' Samsung ' and the phone plus the tablet both use ' Android ' then it should be possible to download it providing both are Wi-Fi devices ... yes / no ?

I managed to download it onto my Samsung Android phone at the first attempt, and even used the venue sign in feature when I went to the hairdressers on Friday. Now if an old Septuagenarian like me can cope, then so should most others.
Like most things there will be problems, but I say again that the media spending thousands having their reporters scour the country for people having problems, and then making its failure a headline feature will not improve things, a simple guide to resolve the problem issues and educate the techno phobes would be far better.

[Onelife]

I can't believe there are so many blatantly stupid people in what is meant to be a first world country.

I despair.

Last night we went to one of our local pub/restaurants for a meal (have to get out now and again). When we arrived all the staff were wearing masks and all the patrons were wearing masks when they moved around the restaurant - this is good we thought.

From where our table was we could see everyone coming in - first there is the couple who "did not know" that face coverings were required. Then there was the elderly couple who were "exempt" and the final straw was a youngish couple where she was wearing a mask and he (who thought he was a macho man) was carrying his.

If it was my restaurant I would have a big sign at the door "NO MASK - NO ENTRY" - it really is as simple as that. And for those who would like to think that they are "exempt" then if you cannot wear a mask for two minutes while you are seated at your table then you should not be in such a place.

Now today the Labour Party are saying that university students must be allowed home for Christmas - excuse me but the students have brought this on themselves, and they are all old enough to understand what is happening. By all means allow them home for Christmas on the proviso that both them and their families go into quarantine for two weeks and that they are expelled from the university. This is real life and these students need to learn quickly the way it works - you cannot have/do everything that you want without there being consequences.

Today's rant over

Don't blame the students blame the government for being so stupid in allowing thousands of students to congregate in areas of high foot fall....This was predictable!!!!!

[Stephen]

I can't believe there are so many blatantly stupid people in what is meant to be a first world country.

I despair.

Last night we went to one of our local pub/restaurants for a meal (have to get out now and again). When we arrived all the staff were wearing masks and all the patrons were wearing masks when they moved around the restaurant - this is good we thought.

From where our table was we could see everyone coming in - first there is the couple who "did not know" that face coverings were required. Then there was the elderly couple who were "exempt" and the final straw was a youngish couple where she was wearing a mask and he (who thought he was a macho man) was carrying his.

If it was my restaurant I would have a big sign at the door "NO MASK - NO ENTRY" - it really is as simple as that. And for those who would like to think that they are "exempt" then if you cannot wear a mask for two minutes while you are seated at your table then you should not be in such a place.

Now today the Labour Party are saying that university students must be allowed home for Christmas - excuse me but the students have brought this on themselves, and they are all old enough to understand what is happening. By all means allow them home for Christmas on the proviso that both them and their families go into quarantine for two weeks and that they are expelled from the university. This is real life and these students need to learn quickly the way it works - you cannot have/do everything that you want without there being consequences.

Today's rant over

Completely agree David.

As for your resturaunt experience, it beggars belief why the staff are not being more pro-active with this. They to me are as bad as the dip sticks flouting the rules. This is where you want officials, a bit like secret shoppers going into such places to observe and report back. And if the establishment still allow customers to flout the rules then shut them down.

Hopefully with the students being in lockdown it will be a wake up call, and that they cannot do just what they like when they like and have to abide by the same rules as everyone else. And it's no good saying 'they are just young students and it's to be expected'. Yes, I agree, but not when there is a pandemic and we ALL have our part to play otherwise we will be in deep doo dar.

[Onelife]

Stephen.....It would have been very unlikely any student could avoid being infected when they live in such close proximity to each other (ten to a kitchen, Halls of residence) was always going to be a disaster waiting to happen.

[Gill W]

Stephen.....It would have been very unlikely any student could avoid being infected when they live in such close proximity to each other (ten to a kitchen, Halls of residence) was always going to be a disaster waiting to happen.

To be honest, it reminds me of cruise ships - lots of people living in close proximity to each other.

IMO, it’s completely unfair to dump ALL of the blame on the students

[Kendhni]

Julie went down the town yesterday. I dropped her off at about 8:50 (I don't do town centres any more) and she was first in the queue for TK Maxx. A man and his child (about 9-10) stood directly behind Julie, ignoring social distance. A young lad came and opened the door at which point Julie went to put her mask on as she started walking forward. The man physically pushed Julie out of the way telling her to "stop wasting his f**** time". The young lad on the door told the man that he needed a mask at which point the man told him to "mind his own f*** business" and 'what was he going to do about it". The young assistant then told him to at least use the sanitzer to which he got a two word answer.

Julie just said something along the lines of "and jackasses like him are allowed to have children" (loudly). The man turned as if he was going to come back but thought better of it and walked on ... no mask, no sanitizer. I almost hope that he takes the dreaded lurgy back home to his family.

I agree with David, or to put it into one of Boris's sound bites ... "no mask, no entry, no exemptions". The time for excuses is over.

[Gill W]

Of course the media have interviewed no one who likes it. Just a selection of those who can't or won't use it. "I couldn't download it on my tablet ". No of course you couldn't. It's a phone app ...

I have been told that if the brand is, say, ' Samsung ' and the phone plus the tablet both use ' Android ' then it should be possible to download it providing both are Wi-Fi devices ... yes / no ?

I managed to download it onto my Samsung Android phone at the first attempt, and even used the venue sign in feature when I went to the hairdressers on Friday. Now if an old Septuagenarian like me can cope, then so should most others.
Like most things there will be problems, but I say again that the media spending thousands having their reporters scour the country for people having problems, and then making its failure a headline feature will not improve things, a simple guide to resolve the problem issues and educate the techno phobes would be far better.

Regarding the app, it’s come to light that people can’t enter their test results on the app if the test was done by PHE or in hospital. The only rest results that can be entered are pillar 2 tests, the ones done commercially.

Therefore, there’ll be people who test positive, but won’t be able to record their information on the app.

I think the app might be a useful utility for ‘checking in’ at cafes and pubs, but less effective than first believed for actually fighting the virus.

It would be more accurate to call it Serco Test and Trace.

[david63]

it beggars belief why the staff are not being more pro-active with this

I agree, but in fairness they did try but they are only kids - not that that is any excuse, there should be someone with authority on the door.

Don't blame the students blame the government for being so stupid in allowing thousands of students to congregate in areas of high foot fall....This was predictable!!!!!

Have to totally disagree with that OL - these are young people (minimum age of 18) who are quite capable of understanding what needs to be done. There was one student on the radio this morning saying that it had been one long party.

Don't blame the Government, they have created the rules/laws. Don't blame the universities, they have put measures in place.

People (including students) have got to start accepting their own responsibility NOW

[Gill W]

Julie went down the town yesterday. I dropped her off at about 8:50 (I don't do town centres any more) and she was first in the queue for TK Maxx. A man and his child (about 9-10) stood directly behind Julie, ignoring social distance. A young lad came and opened the door at which point Julie went to put her mask on as she started walking forward. The man physically pushed Julie out of the way telling her to "stop wasting his f**** time". The young lad on the door told the man that he needed a mask at which point the man told him to "mind his own f*** business" and 'what was he going to do about it". The young assistant then told him to at least use the sanitzer to which he got a two word answer.

Julie just said something along the lines of "and jackasses like him are allowed to have children" (loudly). The man turned as if he was going to come back but thought better of it and walked on ... no mask, no sanitizer. I almost hope that he takes the dreaded lurgy back home to his family.

I agree with David, or to put it into one of Boris's sound bites ... "no mask, no entry, no exemptions". The time for excuses is over.

Well done Julie, people like that need to be called out.

Last week on the train, there was a young man who wasn’t wearing a mask, and I told him in no uncertain terms to wear one next time. He seemed rather shocked, but agreed he would next time, then ran off. I don’t know if he will wear a mask, but I have to say, it felt good to say what I was thinking.

[towny44]

I have been told that if the brand is, say, ' Samsung ' and the phone plus the tablet both use ' Android ' then it should be possible to download it providing both are Wi-Fi devices ... yes / no ?

I managed to download it onto my Samsung Android phone at the first attempt, and even used the venue sign in feature when I went to the hairdressers on Friday. Now if an old Septuagenarian like me can cope, then so should most others.
Like most things there will be problems, but I say again that the media spending thousands having their reporters scour the country for people having problems, and then making its failure a headline feature will not improve things, a simple guide to resolve the problem issues and educate the techno phobes would be far better.

Regarding the app, it’s come to light that people can’t enter their test results on the app if the test was done by PHE or in hospital. The only rest results that can be entered are pillar 2 tests, the ones done commercially.

Therefore, there’ll be people who test positive, but won’t be able to record their information on the app.

I think the app might be a useful utility for ‘checking in’ at cafes and pubs, but less effective than first believed for actually fighting the virus.

It would be more accurate to call it Serco Test and Trace.

That is an issue that I hope will be addressed, I would hope that is a minor hiccup rather than a serious software issue that was not properly covered. Just about every new software roll out I was involved in back in the day had glitches that required patches to cover such problems.

[david63]

it’s come to light that people can’t enter their test results on the app if the test was done by PHE or in hospital.

It was also reported that that is being addressed.

Nobody has said that the app is 100% perfect but we have to start somewhere.

I think the app might be a useful utility for ‘checking in’ at cafes and pubs, but less effective than first believed for actually fighting the virus.

And also if in contact with someone (who also has the app) that becomes infected.

The last I heard was that over 4 million had downloaded the app - unfortunately there is no way of knowing how many will use it.