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Onelife
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Re: Life After Brexit
Hi Foxy…your hatchet job on Theresa today has nearly put me off my Sunday Roast
…whilst she has her faults, she was dealt an impossible hand and had Boris been holding the reins the result wouldn’t have been any different especially when one considers what was happening behind the corridors of parliament and that of those in Brussels….
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Re: Life After Brexit
The only Party known, by me anyway, to support any type of re-entry into the EU is the Liberals and there's a fat chance of the ' Penny in the Pound ' Party being elected any time soon I would have thought.
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Re: Life After Brexit
Onelife wrote: 04 Oct 2020, 13:04Hi Foxy…your hatchet job on Theresa today has nearly put me off my Sunday Roast…whilst she has her faults, she was dealt an impossible hand and had Boris been holding the reins the result wouldn’t have been any different especially when one considers what was happening behind the corridors of parliament and that of those in Brussels….
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She's probably a lovely lady Keith, but was weak and let the EU hierarchy walk all over her.
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Re: Life After Brexit
He, the Prime Minister, also speaks very highly of youKendhni wrote: 04 Oct 2020, 10:49
The failure is 100% down to the brexiteers having no plan, no vision and no strategy. 4 years down the line and brexiteers still cannot say what brexit means - any time they have got close they move the goal posts or start back pedalling. The brexit camp told us what they would deliver, laid it out as 10 bullet points and so far they haven't delivered a single one. The brexit camp has forced vote after vote in the HOC desperately trying to get the answer they wanted, then when they do they start back pedalling again.
But if you want to be really scared, think about it logically. What is the post-brexit plan? What happens at the end of this year? Who is the minister in charge of a successful post-brexit UK? We have a minister for brexit failure but not one for brexit success. That is the problem with Johnson he bumbles along making it up as he goes from pillar to post (he can;t even remember what he said the day before) and spends more time planning for failure rather working towards success (although to be fair that is endemic in the public sector).
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Re: Life After Brexit
I’m sure there is some truth in what you say Stephen but its easier to walk over someone when half of her ministers were doing their best to make her fall down at every hurdleStephen wrote: 04 Oct 2020, 16:14Onelife wrote: 04 Oct 2020, 13:04Hi Foxy…your hatchet job on Theresa today has nearly put me off my Sunday Roast…whilst she has her faults, she was dealt an impossible hand and had Boris been holding the reins the result wouldn’t have been any different especially when one considers what was happening behind the corridors of parliament and that of those in Brussels….
https://www.trtworld.com/opinion/don-t- ... sels-25118
She's probably a lovely lady Keith, but was weak and let the EU hierarchy walk all over her.
As a matter of interest if your life solely depended on either Theresa or Boris looking after your best interests who would you choose?
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But didn't she throw away a comfortable majority which was the main cause of her problems?Onelife wrote: 04 Oct 2020, 16:33I’m sure there is some truth in what you say Stephen but its easier to walk over someone when half of her ministers were doing their best to make her fall down at every hurdleStephen wrote: 04 Oct 2020, 16:14Onelife wrote: 04 Oct 2020, 13:04Hi Foxy…your hatchet job on Theresa today has nearly put me off my Sunday Roast…whilst she has her faults, she was dealt an impossible hand and had Boris been holding the reins the result wouldn’t have been any different especially when one considers what was happening behind the corridors of parliament and that of those in Brussels….
https://www.trtworld.com/opinion/don-t- ... sels-25118
She's probably a lovely lady Keith, but was weak and let the EU hierarchy walk all over her..
As a matter of interest if your life solely depended on either Theresa or Boris looking after your best interests who would you choose?![]()
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What a disaster that election campaign was!!!towny44 wrote: 04 Oct 2020, 16:47But didn't she throw away a comfortable majority which was the main cause of her problems?
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She did indeed John and in hindsight you could say she was badly advised in calling an election when she did…had she done so three months earlier she would have won a landslide. advisors are the making of a PM but will ultimately be the instrument of their demise.towny44 wrote: 04 Oct 2020, 16:47But didn't she throw away a comfortable majority which was the main cause of her problems?Onelife wrote: 04 Oct 2020, 16:33I’m sure there is some truth in what you say Stephen but its easier to walk over someone when half of her ministers were doing their best to make her fall down at every hurdleStephen wrote: 04 Oct 2020, 16:14
She's probably a lovely lady Keith, but was weak and let the EU hierarchy walk all over her..
As a matter of interest if your life solely depended on either Theresa or Boris looking after your best interests who would you choose?![]()
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I think she surprised her advisors by announcing her decision after a weekend away somewhere, if that was correct then the calamity was all her fault.Onelife wrote: 04 Oct 2020, 18:10She did indeed John and in hindsight you could say she was badly advised in calling an election when she did…had she done so three months earlier she would have won a landslide. advisors are the making of a PM but will ultimately be the instrument of their demise.towny44 wrote: 04 Oct 2020, 16:47But didn't she throw away a comfortable majority which was the main cause of her problems?Onelife wrote: 04 Oct 2020, 16:33
I’m sure there is some truth in what you say Stephen but its easier to walk over someone when half of her ministers were doing their best to make her fall down at every hurdle.
As a matter of interest if your life solely depended on either Theresa or Boris looking after your best interests who would you choose?![]()
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I'd go for either Boris May or perhaps Theresa JohnsonOnelife wrote: 04 Oct 2020, 16:33As a matter of interest if your life solely depended on either Theresa or Boris looking after your best interests who would you choose?
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Don't get falling off that fence David
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or his uncle aunty
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Onelife wrote: 04 Oct 2020, 16:33I’m sure there is some truth in what you say Stephen but its easier to walk over someone when half of her ministers were doing their best to make her fall down at every hurdleStephen wrote: 04 Oct 2020, 16:14Onelife wrote: 04 Oct 2020, 13:04Hi Foxy…your hatchet job on Theresa today has nearly put me off my Sunday Roast…whilst she has her faults, she was dealt an impossible hand and had Boris been holding the reins the result wouldn’t have been any different especially when one considers what was happening behind the corridors of parliament and that of those in Brussels….
https://www.trtworld.com/opinion/don-t- ... sels-25118
She's probably a lovely lady Keith, but was weak and let the EU hierarchy walk all over her..
As a matter of interest if your life solely depended on either Theresa or Boris looking after your best interests who would you choose?![]()
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I'd choose both. Theresa to do the washing, cleaning and cooking. Boris to do the gardening, maintenance and serve me my Whiskey in the evening.
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Re: Life After Brexit
Stephen wrote: 05 Oct 2020, 08:21Onelife wrote: 04 Oct 2020, 16:33I’m sure there is some truth in what you say Stephen but its easier to walk over someone when half of her ministers were doing their best to make her fall down at every hurdleStephen wrote: 04 Oct 2020, 16:14
She's probably a lovely lady Keith, but was weak and let the EU hierarchy walk all over her..
As a matter of interest if your life solely depended on either Theresa or Boris looking after your best interests who would you choose?![]()
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I'd choose both. Theresa to do the washing, cleaning and cooking. Boris to do the gardening, maintenance and serve me my Whiskey in the evening.
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I just thought she was far to weak for the job and would give in to anybody who disagreed with her creating chaos everywhere she went
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Re: Life After Brexit
She still is as popular with the Police as the B*****d that murdered the Policeman.
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Not really, she was strong enough and had the integrity to stick by her red lines.Stephen wrote: 04 Oct 2020, 16:14Onelife wrote: 04 Oct 2020, 13:04Hi Foxy…your hatchet job on Theresa today has nearly put me off my Sunday Roast…whilst she has her faults, she was dealt an impossible hand and had Boris been holding the reins the result wouldn’t have been any different especially when one considers what was happening behind the corridors of parliament and that of those in Brussels….
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She's probably a lovely lady Keith, but was weak and let the EU hierarchy walk all over her.
On the other hand Johnson took less than 72 hours to go from laying out his red lines to folding like a deck of cards made from wet tissue paper. Johnson skillfully took Mays WA agreement, made it worse, got it through the HoC, accepted by the people in a General election, and is now furiously back pedalling from many of the changes he made to it - basically he is trying to put it back to the May agreement.
Brexit could have been completed in a fraction of the time - all the UK had to do was leave - seriously that is all it would have taken, nobody was stopping them, or any other country, from doing that. But such a cliff edge approach would have been a disaster for the UK and rather unpleasant for the EU as well.
At the minute it is very unfortunate timing. Government time is spent between 2 equally important issues both of which have the propensity to do serious damage to the UK economy, jobs and industry if not handled right. Ideally we really needed the government to be 100% focussed on one of these issues.
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https://quillette.com/2019/06/26/the-im ... eresa-may/poole boy wrote: 05 Oct 2020, 12:06I just thought she was far to weak for the job and would give in to anybody who disagreed with her creating chaos everywhere she went
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I actually find it hilarious that a few traditional Tory voters cannot bring themselves to understand that this government is actually fulfilling the election manifesto.Kendhni wrote: 05 Oct 2020, 16:21Not really, she was strong enough and had the integrity to stick by her red lines.Stephen wrote: 04 Oct 2020, 16:14Onelife wrote: 04 Oct 2020, 13:04Hi Foxy…your hatchet job on Theresa today has nearly put me off my Sunday Roast…whilst she has her faults, she was dealt an impossible hand and had Boris been holding the reins the result wouldn’t have been any different especially when one considers what was happening behind the corridors of parliament and that of those in Brussels….
https://www.trtworld.com/opinion/don-t- ... sels-25118
She's probably a lovely lady Keith, but was weak and let the EU hierarchy walk all over her.
On the other hand Johnson took less than 72 hours to go from laying out his red lines to folding like a deck of cards made from wet tissue paper. Johnson skillfully took Mays WA agreement, made it worse, got it through the HoC, accepted by the people in a General election, and is now furiously back pedalling from many of the changes he made to it - basically he is trying to put it back to the May agreement.
Brexit could have been completed in a fraction of the time - all the UK had to do was leave - seriously that is all it would have taken, nobody was stopping them, or any other country, from doing that. But such a cliff edge approach would have been a disaster for the UK and rather unpleasant for the EU as well.
At the minute it is very unfortunate timing. Government time is spent between 2 equally important issues both of which have the propensity to do serious damage to the UK economy, jobs and industry if not handled right. Ideally we really needed the government to be 100% focussed on one of these issues.
I bet they’ll be back to voting Tory come the next election.
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Just for the hard of thinking who don't think that the EU is a federalist organisation.
Taken for the Times of Malta.
"MEPs voted last month in favour of revising the EU’s system of own resources, as a first step towards identifying new revenue streams through which to finance massive recovery packages intended to help member states overcome the COVID-19 pandemic.
The draft text, which was approved by 455 votes in favour, 146 against and 88 abstentions, states that it is necessary to introduce new revenue streams based on the Common Consolidated Corporate Tax Base and calls for the introduction of a digital services tax and a Financial Transaction Tax.
The text approved by MEPs, which also calls for the EU to introduce a tax on non-recycled packaging waste among other things, suggests introducing a Financial Transaction Tax as part of what the EU calls “enhanced cooperation”.
The vote means the European Council can now adopt the Own Resources Directive and begin the process to have the deal ratified in each member state."
And that my friends, is exactly why the UK will be better outside of the EU, unless of course, you prefer your tax uptake to be dictated by others.
Taken for the Times of Malta.
"MEPs voted last month in favour of revising the EU’s system of own resources, as a first step towards identifying new revenue streams through which to finance massive recovery packages intended to help member states overcome the COVID-19 pandemic.
The draft text, which was approved by 455 votes in favour, 146 against and 88 abstentions, states that it is necessary to introduce new revenue streams based on the Common Consolidated Corporate Tax Base and calls for the introduction of a digital services tax and a Financial Transaction Tax.
The text approved by MEPs, which also calls for the EU to introduce a tax on non-recycled packaging waste among other things, suggests introducing a Financial Transaction Tax as part of what the EU calls “enhanced cooperation”.
The vote means the European Council can now adopt the Own Resources Directive and begin the process to have the deal ratified in each member state."
And that my friends, is exactly why the UK will be better outside of the EU, unless of course, you prefer your tax uptake to be dictated by others.
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Barney, if you wait a little while I am sure there will be a remainer coming along to cast total doubt and obfuscation on your post.
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It looks like you've blown your money Screwy
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He might have been gambling with Keefie chocolates.
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... eppe-conte
Do the right thing ? --- read - capitulate
The UK has offered compromise after compromise.
It's clearly the EU side that is refusing to budge or negotiate in good faith.
Remember a few years back when TM was flying all over Europe talking individually to leaders of European countries, try to broker some sort of deal and was publicly chastised by Juncker and told that the only way was through the Commission and the official negotiators?
Well, now they have gone full circle and are criticising Johnson for not personally engaging with the European leaders and leaving it to his negotiators.
Cake and eat it anyone ?
Oh, and it appears that it wasn't the Russians wot dun it !
https://www.politico.eu/article/no-evid ... it-report/
So, one more ridiculous Remoaner myth blown out of the water with fact.
But ....... if we all hang on long enough, Armageddon is just round the corner .
Do the right thing ? --- read - capitulate
The UK has offered compromise after compromise.
It's clearly the EU side that is refusing to budge or negotiate in good faith.
Remember a few years back when TM was flying all over Europe talking individually to leaders of European countries, try to broker some sort of deal and was publicly chastised by Juncker and told that the only way was through the Commission and the official negotiators?
Well, now they have gone full circle and are criticising Johnson for not personally engaging with the European leaders and leaving it to his negotiators.
Cake and eat it anyone ?
Oh, and it appears that it wasn't the Russians wot dun it !
https://www.politico.eu/article/no-evid ... it-report/
So, one more ridiculous Remoaner myth blown out of the water with fact.
But ....... if we all hang on long enough, Armageddon is just round the corner .
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