Current Affairs

[Manoverboard]

The solution is simple - if they don't pay their fine then it doubles every day until they do. If after a week they have not paid then start taking their possessions from them starting with their mobile phones, then the big TV etc.

That could seriously overwhelm the police and legal system.

You’re probably right John but I’m sure we all share David’s sentiments.

If you re-possess their Mobile Phones ' Trick or Treat ' ' Track n Trace ' would be dead in the water.

[Kendhni]

The solution is simple - if they don't pay their fine then it doubles every day until they do. If after a week they have not paid then start taking their possessions from them starting with their mobile phones, then the big TV etc.

That could seriously overwhelm the police and legal system.

You’re probably right John but I’m sure we all share David’s sentiments.

Not all of us. I would suggest forcing them to go in and work on the wards of people suffering from COVID. Naturally there wouldn't be enough PPE for them because the money was being wasted on policing the COVIDiots.

I have heard feedback of what it is like working on a COVID ward - it is horrifying.

[Onelife]

That could seriously overwhelm the police and legal system.

You’re probably right John but I’m sure we all share David’s sentiments.

Not all of us. I would suggest forcing them to go in and work on the wards of people suffering from COVID. Naturally there wouldn't be enough PPE for them because the money was being wasted on policing the COVIDiots.

I have heard feedback of what it is like working on a COVID ward - it is horrifying.

I can only imagine......They didn't sign up to put their lives on the line.

[Onelife]

That could seriously overwhelm the police and legal system.

You’re probably right John but I’m sure we all share David’s sentiments.

If you re-possess their Mobile Phones ' Trick or Treat ' ' Track n Trace ' would be dead in the water.

As we have seen, most don't down-load the app so its already dead in the water.

[Stephen]

You’re probably right John but I’m sure we all share David’s sentiments.

Not all of us. I would suggest forcing them to go in and work on the wards of people suffering from COVID. Naturally there wouldn't be enough PPE for them because the money was being wasted on policing the COVIDiots.

I have heard feedback of what it is like working on a COVID ward - it is horrifying.

I can only imagine......They didn't sign up to put their lives on the line.

As horrible at is, it's a bit like saying don't become a firefighter if you don't like fighting fires or don't join the army if you don't ever want to be shot at, because at some point sh*t happens.

[Onelife]

Not all of us. I would suggest forcing them to go in and work on the wards of people suffering from COVID. Naturally there wouldn't be enough PPE for them because the money was being wasted on policing the COVIDiots.

I have heard feedback of what it is like working on a COVID ward - it is horrifying.

I can only imagine......They didn't sign up to put their lives on the line.

As horrible at is, it's a bit like saying don't become a firefighter if you don't like fighting fires or don't join the army if you don't ever want to be shot at, because at some point sh*t happens.

Your comparisons are about as far removed as a gun is to a needle.

[Stephen]

It's called reality.

[Stephen]

In fairness it's not all up North acting like idiots. I don't know about mounted police I think a water canon would have been more appropriate. Absolute madness.

Covid: Second national lockdown possible, says top UK scientist https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54498191

[Kendhni]

A few weeks ago Johnson had the opportunity to lock us down, at the time my hindsight told me that he hadn't gone far enough and to keep bars open was stupidity. He blew it the first time, but he still has a chance to resolve it before it gets out of control.

We are on the same trajectory as the likes of France and Spain, the difference is we run 2-4 weeks behind (although some seem to like comparing todays numbers in the UK with todays numbers in Spain and France - that is just naive stupidity). He needs to take some firm and decisive action now otherwise we will be having a lockdown Christmas which will be a disaster for many retailers as well as undesirable for families.

[david63]

He needs to take some firm and decisive action now

All the measures are already there - all that needs doing is strongly enforcing them. If people, and in some cases venues, were do as asked/told/required by law then we would not be in this situation.

[towny44]

A few weeks ago Johnson had the opportunity to lock us down, at the time my hindsight told me that he hadn't gone far enough and to keep bars open was stupidity. He blew it the first time, but he still has a chance to resolve it before it gets out of control.

We are on the same trajectory as the likes of France and Spain, the difference is we run 2-4 weeks behind (although some seem to like comparing todays numbers in the UK with todays numbers in Spain and France - that is just naive stupidity). He needs to take some firm and decisive action now otherwise we will be having a lockdown Christmas which will be a disaster for many retailers as well as undesirable for families.

Any tighter restrictions and the struggling sectors of the economy will cease to exist, leaving millions jobless and with no prospect that the weaker economy can produce new jobs. We need to learn to live with this virus, without killing off too many, until a vaccine is available, so lets get back to life as normal as possible, as soon as possible.

[screwy]

It all comes down to crass stupidity/ignorance and just not giving a toss by sections of society. Yes the Government have made mistakes,the first being to rely on the common sense of the people.! We can’t just keep blaming Boris etc.

[oldbluefox]

He needs to take some firm and decisive action now

All the measures are already there - all that needs doing is strongly enforcing them. If people, and in some cases venues, were do as asked/told/required by law then we would not be in this situation.

Absolutely. It's the crass stupidity of people of people either as individuals or the managers of venues who are spreading the virus. The means of preventing its spread are basic and simple. Come down hard on a few and the rest will fall into line. Give the snowflakes something to chunter about.

[screwy]

Why is this coming under....Cruising post Covid ?
Whats happened to ..Current Affairs.?

[screwy]

Ok it’s back now...

[Onelife]

A few weeks ago Johnson had the opportunity to lock us down, at the time my hindsight told me that he hadn't gone far enough and to keep bars open was stupidity. He blew it the first time, but he still has a chance to resolve it before it gets out of control.

We are on the same trajectory as the likes of France and Spain, the difference is we run 2-4 weeks behind (although some seem to like comparing todays numbers in the UK with todays numbers in Spain and France - that is just naive stupidity). He needs to take some firm and decisive action now otherwise we will be having a lockdown Christmas which will be a disaster for many retailers as well as undesirable for families.

Agree Ken,

When you combine selfishness, ignorance, and stupidity you end up with none compliances.

In my opinion If you want to save a struggling ecomny you have to put in place measures such as the one I suggested a couple of weeks ago, which is to have a rolling two week off, 10 weeks on working program e.g. “new normal” this way you will keep covid at a manageable level and allow business to trade relatively uninterrupted during this period.

However, I’m not sure even this would work now as the government’s incompetence has now led to each city/county fighting its own corner…more mixed messages for those who live in those areas.

[Manoverboard]

Why is this coming under....Cruising post Covid ?
Whats happened to ..Current Affairs.?

It happens when posts from another Topic are moved into this one

[Kendhni]

A few weeks ago Johnson had the opportunity to lock us down, at the time my hindsight told me that he hadn't gone far enough and to keep bars open was stupidity. He blew it the first time, but he still has a chance to resolve it before it gets out of control.

We are on the same trajectory as the likes of France and Spain, the difference is we run 2-4 weeks behind (although some seem to like comparing todays numbers in the UK with todays numbers in Spain and France - that is just naive stupidity). He needs to take some firm and decisive action now otherwise we will be having a lockdown Christmas which will be a disaster for many retailers as well as undesirable for families.

Agree Ken,

When you combine selfishness, ignorance, and stupidity you end up with none compliances.

In my opinion If you want to save a struggling ecomny you have to put in place measures such as the one I suggested a couple of weeks ago, which is to have a rolling two week off, 10 weeks on working program e.g. “new normal” this way you will keep covid at a manageable level and allow business to trade relatively uninterrupted during this period.

However, I’m not sure even this would work now as the government’s incompetence has now led to each city/county fighting its own corner…more mixed messages for those who live in those areas.

Bars and nightclubs have to be shut down - restaurants acting responsibly may be able to remain open. Back in July/August, one of the MPs stood up and stated that you can either have the bars open or you can have the schools open, but you can't have both open. Bars are not a necessity.

The message should also be 'if you can work from home then you must work from home'. Many can't work from home but we can reduce the people density on the roads, public transport and in the workplaces if those that can stay away.

The news this morning is that the hospitals are already full and that the nightingale hospitals will be reopening ... and that is to handle what has already happened. So things are likely to get much worse for the next 3 weeks and then, if the government does what it has to (TODAY), hopefully it will start getting better.

No more pussy footing about and no more pandering to idiots and distressed little princesses that don't want to wear a mask. Make the fines being issued start paying for this crisis.

[Kendhni]

Why is this coming under....Cruising post Covid ?
Whats happened to ..Current Affairs.?

Guilty .. hangs head in shame ... I posted on the wrong thread ... requiring the mods to sort it out.
Homer Simpson put it best when he uttered those immortal words .... 'Doh!!'


PS: I know that technically is one word but there was an echo - use your imagination

[screwy]

An Old boy once said to me.’ When your Born your given a bag of Bollocks to carry round. Now and again you’ll drop one, it’s not the fact you’ve dropped one, it’s what you do about it ‘.
You owned up Ken,good start...

[oldbluefox]

Why is this coming under....Cruising post Covid ?
Whats happened to ..Current Affairs.?

Guilty .. hangs head in shame ... I posted on the wrong thread ... requiring the mods to sort it out.
Homer Simpson put it best when he uttered those immortal words .... 'Doh!!'


PS: I know that technically is one word but there was an echo - use your imagination

I notice Mob didn't move David's post. He knows what's good for him.................

[Onelife]

Why is this coming under....Cruising post Covid ?
Whats happened to ..Current Affairs.?

Guilty .. hangs head in shame ... I posted on the wrong thread ... requiring the mods to sort it out.
Homer Simpson put it best when he uttered those immortal words .... 'Doh!!'


PS: I know that technically is one word but there was an echo - use your imagination

I notice Mob didn't move David's post. He knows what's good for him.................

Squeak ! Squeak!

[Manoverboard]

Why is this coming under....Cruising post Covid ?
Whats happened to ..Current Affairs.?

Guilty .. hangs head in shame ... I posted on the wrong thread ... requiring the mods to sort it out.
Homer Simpson put it best when he uttered those immortal words .... 'Doh!!'


PS: I know that technically is one word but there was an echo - use your imagination

I notice Mob didn't move David's post. He knows what's good for him.................

The funny thing is that I was about to move both of them when D63 beat me to it so I thought sod that and logged off

[oldbluefox]

Chicken!!!
The Tower's not the best of places at this time of year.

[towny44]

[
The news this morning is that the hospitals are already full and that the nightingale hospitals will be reopening ... and that is to handle what has already happened. So things are likely to get much worse for the next 3 weeks]
Ken , that's untrue only a limited number of hospitals are filling up, and I am hoping that the Nightingales will become the major covid centres, leaving the normal hospitals open for non covid admissions.