Agreed, while this first batch of vaccines are unlikely to be the final solution anything that starts fighting this disease (and its best ally, human stupidity) is good news.
Let's hope the naysayers in the media don't try to derail it. I'm afraid the media annoy me when they try to denounce everything we do either actively or with their snide little asides. They talk about wellness and mental health and yet they are partly responsible for levels of depression in our society for anyone who listens to them. For some lockdown is hard enough without the likes of Kuennsberg, Peston, Rigby and Birley looking to pick holes in everything we do.
When someone is unable to answer a question or defend their position it is not the question or the questioner that is at fault. It is right that the media ask difficult questions (not that I ever like to defend the media, but at the minute when someone hears something they do not like but don't have the intelligence or knowledge to come up with a credible answer they seem to have nothing else other than strawmen and ad hominems).
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I see four other government officials from the same Boris meeting are now having to self isolate. Sounds like a case of do as we say but not as we do.
You do talk rubbish sometimes Stephen. They were in the same venue as someone who's tested positive, so even if they followed all the social distancing guidance, the test and trace system would ask them to self isolate.
When someone is unable to answer a question or defend their position it is not the question or the questioner that is at fault. It is right that the media ask difficult questions (not that I ever like to defend the media, but at the minute when someone hears something they do not like but don't have the intelligence or knowledge to come up with a credible answer they seem to have nothing else other than strawmen and ad hominems).
I despair at some of the stupid questions that are asked which are impossible to answer but tell more of the interviewers ego than the intelligence of the interviewee. There is a difference between difficult questions which seek clarification or more detail and those for which there is no answer at that moment in time. Sometimes lack of knowledge is an acknowledgement that the information is not yet known or available.
Whilst some of these reporters glory in their own smugness their persistence in being negative helps to foster depression amongst some in society for whom life is already difficult.
I see four other government officials from the same Boris meeting are now having to self isolate. Sounds like a case of do as we say but not as we do.
You do talk rubbish sometimes Stephen. They were in the same venue as someone who's tested positive, so even if they followed all the social distancing guidance, the test and trace system would ask them to self isolate.
Then don't read it you self opinionated twit.
Does that mean that your self opinionated twit, trumps my self opinionated twit?
When someone is unable to answer a question or defend their position it is not the question or the questioner that is at fault. It is right that the media ask difficult questions (not that I ever like to defend the media, but at the minute when someone hears something they do not like but don't have the intelligence or knowledge to come up with a credible answer they seem to have nothing else other than strawmen and ad hominems).
I despair at some of the stupid questions that are asked which are impossible to answer but tell more of the interviewers ego than the intelligence of the interviewee. There is a difference between difficult questions which seek clarification or more detail and those for which there is no answer at that moment in time. Sometimes lack of knowledge is an acknowledgement that the information is not yet known or available.
Whilst some of these reporters glory in their own smugness their persistence in being negative helps to foster depression amongst some in society for whom life is already difficult.
When someone is unable to answer a question or defend their position it is not the question or the questioner that is at fault. It is right that the media ask difficult questions (not that I ever like to defend the media, but at the minute when someone hears something they do not like but don't have the intelligence or knowledge to come up with a credible answer they seem to have nothing else other than strawmen and ad hominems).
I despair at some of the stupid questions that are asked which are impossible to answer but tell more of the interviewers ego than the intelligence of the interviewee. There is a difference between difficult questions which seek clarification or more detail and those for which there is no answer at that moment in time. Sometimes lack of knowledge is an acknowledgement that the information is not yet known or available.
Whilst some of these reporters glory in their own smugness their persistence in being negative helps to foster depression amongst some in society for whom life is already difficult.
What amazes me is that given that reporters have time to prepare their questions many of them don't come up with anything that isn’t already public knowledge…. or hasn’t already been put to the panel by a previous reporter at the same briefing.
When someone is unable to answer a question or defend their position it is not the question or the questioner that is at fault. It is right that the media ask difficult questions (not that I ever like to defend the media, but at the minute when someone hears something they do not like but don't have the intelligence or knowledge to come up with a credible answer they seem to have nothing else other than strawmen and ad hominems).
I despair at some of the stupid questions that are asked which are impossible to answer but tell more of the interviewers ego than the intelligence of the interviewee. There is a difference between difficult questions which seek clarification or more detail and those for which there is no answer at that moment in time. Sometimes lack of knowledge is an acknowledgement that the information is not yet known or available.
Whilst some of these reporters glory in their own smugness their persistence in being negative helps to foster depression amongst some in society for whom life is already difficult.
At a very shallow level I would agree with you, but the reality is that a question you may consider to be dumb could be very important to someone else. It is valid, but rarely happens, that people being questioned will reply with 'we just don't know yet' and then explain what is being done to get that knowledge, that will generally shut down the line of questioning ... however what politicians and civil servants are trained to do is never admit to alack of knowledge, what they usually say is something along the lines of 'Let me very clear about this' (something which is cue that they are about to lie through their teeth) and then they waffle on about some irrelevance or deliberately misdirect with some asinine statement like 'someone else would have been worse' (a true sign of ignorance).
Generally reporters only appear to be negative when they are giving 'my guy' a hard time - whereas they seem to be doing a good job when giving 'your guy' a hard time. One of the biggest growing issues with society now is that people are acceptive of incredibly low standards of honesty and integrity from their 'leaders' just as long as they are being fed what they want to hear (even where there is an abundance of evidence to the contrary). Sadly the cancer of misinformation is leaching out from social media and is becoming prevalent in reality - the handling of COVID is a prime example of this.
There was a report this morning that the tier system will need to be altered if it is to be effective… here’s my suggestion for what might work better…
Put all areas into tier 3 irrespective of their infection rates and then let them work towards a near zero infection rate. This would have several benefits, not least getting all parties working towards the same goal e.g. the opening of shops, restaurants, pubs and schools (yes, I would close Schools) What the present tier system is lacking is compliance, this way all would have a vested interest in getting infections down to a near zero/manageable level.
There was a report this morning that the tier system will need to be altered if it is to be effective
That was actually a suggestion that it "may" have to be adjusted not that it will have to be.
There was/is nothing wrong with the three tier system that was in place prior to lockdown - it was working as has been evidenced by the falling rate in the North West, a fact that has also been accepted by some of the leading scientists/medical experts.
By all means put the country into tier three when the lockdown ends on December 2nd and gradually move them into tier two as things improve. The last thing that is needed is any further restrictions, at least not in the short term. I fully accept that it is almost inevitable that there will be another lockdown, probably towards the end of January/early February.
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There was a report this morning that the tier system will might need to be altered if it is to be more effective
That was actually a suggestion that it "may" have to be adjusted not that it will have to be.
There was/is nothing wrong with the three tier system that was in place prior to lockdown - it was working as has been evidenced by the falling rate in the North West, a fact that has also been accepted by some of the leading scientists/medical experts.
By all means put the country into tier three when the lockdown ends on December 2nd and gradually move them into tier two as things improve. The last thing that is needed is any further restrictions, at least not in the short term. I fully accept that it is almost inevitable that there will be another lockdown, probably towards the end of January/early February.
Thankfully and from within the ranks of the press the Mail is being roundelay condemned for its thinly veiled attack on Marcus Rashford. I wonder how some so called journalist can reconcile this disgusting bastardisation of their profession.
Thankfully and from within the ranks of the press the Mail is being roundelay condemned for its thinly veiled attack on Marcus Rashford. I wonder how some so called journalist can reconcile this disgusting bastardisation of their profession.
You make the mistake of thinking that anyone that works for the Daily Fail could be construed as being a "journalist" - 2-bit hack maybe.
We get the Wail every Saturday, purely for the TV pull out for the week which we find clear and easy to read, unlike the TV mags where you need a magnifying glass. As for the rest of the paper, nine times out of ten I don't even bother looking at it.
We have the Express on a Saturday, like everybody else we get the TV schedule. I flick through it as far as Carole Malone's weekly, humorous rant, a quick look at the sports pages and then pass it on to SWMBO who reads it through. Then we do the Target puzzle together, an anagram type brain stretcher but I must confess I'm not really that interested in most of the stories. Even the footie news is all about summat or nuthin'.
I think that's impartial and unbiased, as are The Guardian and The Observer.
The Daily Star is so far off the radar and only concerned with bums and boobs it is probably the least biased of them all!!!
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