Electric cars

[Whynd1]

I bave been reading about the government's new targets for electric cars.
Only one of our neighbours has had a charging point installed and he works in the industry and has 2 hybrid cars.

I was just wondering if any forum members had an all electric car or was thinking of buying one.

We just have one car between us now as we dont travel far by car and it's a 15 plate fiesta, so wouldnt be looking to change for a few years yet.

Lindsey

[Manoverboard]

Number two son has a hybred Lexus and bestest chums have a hybred Toyotta. Would prefer a model with a ' pretend ' noise as they are far too quiet for unsuspecting pedestrians.

If we are still here we would buy a petrol version 4 x 4 in 2029 on the basis that it could run for many more years to come, all electric being a complete no-no as far as we are concerned.

[towny44]

Number one son has a works PHEV BMW and has some sort of charging point at his house, but the battery on this only has about a 25 mile range, OK for round town but uses dirty diesel for longer trips.
Our 64 plate Golf SV is diesel and I have no intention of changing it just yet. I hope I will still be around in 2030 but if so I might switch to a similar sized 2nd hand PHEV to last my lifetime out.

[david63]

I have had a Toyota hybrid for over seven years and would not go back to a fossil fuel car. I have considered a full electric but the three things that put me off (apart from the cost) are the range (newer models are claiming 250 miles), the time it takes to charge and the lack of charging points.

If those issues can be fixed by the time I am looking for a new car then all electric will be a serious consideration.

[Ranchi]

I really don’t know about battery technology, specifically battery lifetime. The last couple of times we have bought cars we have had dealers strongly pushing PCP agreements - we have resisted these. I wonder if the increase in number of e-cars sold will be marked by an increase in lease type agreements similar to the the ways in which most mobile phones are now marketed (dinosaur that I am, I still buy our phones or get a hand me up from our children.) As purchasers are nervous about the possible costs ( & inconvenience) resulting from battery performance diminishing with age of car.
Had to smile when I first noticed the name of the electric baby VW. A white rose car if ever there was one.

[Stephen]

Number two son has a hybred Lexus and bestest chums have a hybred Toyotta. Would prefer a model with a ' pretend ' noise as they are far too quiet for unsuspecting pedestrians.

If we are still here we would buy a petrol version 4 x 4 in 2029 on the basis that it could run for many more years to come, all electric being a complete no-no as far as we are concerned.

Better be quick if Boris gets his way.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-54937277

[Manoverboard]

The ban on the sale of petrol cars starts in 2030 ... or so I thought

[oldbluefox]

Is there anybody producing hydrogen powered cars in the future? I would much rather go somewhere to fill up than stand around waiting for my motor to charge up.

[Kendhni]

My main car is a hybrid (second one I have had) and will probably switch to a full electric for my next car. The only thing that has stopped me is that I sometimes need to do 200+ mile round trips without having to recharge. This will soon be easily achievable.

Petrol and diesel drivers will soon be treated in the same way and be about as welcome as a smoker in a restaurant.

[Kendhni]

Is there anybody producing hydrogen powered cars in the future? I would much rather go somewhere to fill up than stand around waiting for my motor to charge up.

There are a couple available including one from Toyota and one from Hyundai. They are very pricey though and hydrogen filling stations are about as common as hens teeth.

[oldbluefox]

Just as I thought. I would have thought it would be easier to put in the infrastructure for hydrogen using current filling stations rather than the millions of charging points which take time to charge up the motors. At the moment it seems the emphasis is more on electricity for some reason or another, whether that is to do with production of the hydrogen, storage, safety concerns or just lack of investment at the moment I know not. I know there are buses which are driven by hydrogen so I wondered what the situation is for motor vehicles.

[Stephen]

The ban on the sale of petrol cars starts in 2030 ... or so I thought

Correct.

That's what it says in the link.

And who's to say it might be brought forward even sooner.

[towny44]

Is there anybody producing hydrogen powered cars in the future? I would much rather go somewhere to fill up than stand around waiting for my motor to charge up.

I have wondered whether a hydrogen electric hybrid could be the most user friendly option for the long term. If there was a lightweight hydrogen powered generator, then it would limit the size of battery pack needed to make a viable vehicle.

[Ranchi]

Hydrogen is used successfully in buses in a nearby town. I’m not sure how the hydrogen is stored. I recall it is notoriously difficult to contain and behaves atypically when leaking/expanding- it heats up. I’m sure hydrogen can be used safely but at a high cost and whilst new equipment will work well I guess there may be concerns when equipment gets old and maintenance becomes expensive.

[Mervyn and Trish]

I've driven a hybrid Toyota hire car and liked it a lot. So my next car will probably be a hybrid But until the range is much better and charging infrastructure is greater pure electric is not for me. Range anxiety would be my nightmare. I heard an electric zealot on the radio today poo pooing that but then he explained how he plans his journeys. Like a pilot filing his flight plan and working out alternative routes if needed to top up if the battery ran low. Sorry but I want to get in the car and drive from A to B, not divert to C and then wait 40 minutes. Or a lot more if someone else got there first!

[Onelife]

My Rav 4 is 15 years old and I’m hoping it’s got at least another 15/20 years left in it… we should both be ready for the scrap heap by then.

There will be a quicker take up of “all electric” if all New build houses are required to have their own charging stations.

[Stephen]

I'm holding out for the hover car

[david63]

The other issue that has not been mentioned is whether the National Grid has the capacity for everyone to charge their cars at the same time. The last I read, which was a couple of years ago, was that if everyone was charging their cars then you would not be able to boil a kettle

[towny44]

The other issue that has not been mentioned is whether the National Grid has the capacity for everyone to charge their cars at the same time. The last I read, which was a couple of years ago, was that if everyone was charging their cars then you would not be able to boil a kettle

Ah but, Boris's cunning plan is to cover the seas all around the UK with wind farms, in that way the French fishing boats won't be able scoop up our fish whatever the outcome of the trade deal.

[Manoverboard]

The other issue that has not been mentioned is whether the National Grid has the capacity for everyone to charge their cars at the same time. The last I read, which was a couple of years ago, was that if everyone was charging their cars then you would not be able to boil a kettle

It's not safe to boil a kettle in the dark .... just saying

[barney]

We both bought new cars cars in 2020 so will be ready for a change by about when this is introduced.

We both prefer higher 4x4 types so hopefully there will be a good selection on the market by then.
I expect the trade in value will be virtually nil but they may offer some sort of scrapage incentive.
Mrs B has a new Juke (petrol) and I've got a Tiguan (diesel)

Neither of us like these silly little city type cars that would fit in your boot.

[Stephen]

We both bought new cars cars in 2020 so will be ready for a change by about when this is introduced.

We both prefer higher 4x4 types so hopefully there will be a good selection on the market by then.
I expect the trade in value will be virtually nil but they may offer some sort of scrapage incentive.
Mrs B has a new Juke (petrol) and I've got a Tiguan (diesel)

Neither of us like these silly little city type cars that would fit in your boot.

Agree Barney
You need something sturdy down there Barney, as I can vouch from experience when we visit each year with our run of the mill car. Some of those country roads are atrocious with pot holes.

If ever the day comes that we migrate to that neck of the woods a more substantial vehicle will be the first thing on the list.

[Manoverboard]

We had a low slung GTi when we arrived in Darzet but couldn't see over the ditches or the hedges on the sides of the roads, so a 4 x 4 Toyota it had to be

[Stephen]

We had a low slung GTi when we arrived in Darzet but couldn't see over the ditches or the hedges on the sides of the roads, so a 4 x 4 Toyota it had to be

You little boy racer you. Was it a Golf miniature horse and cart

[allatc]

When not taking cruise holidays we have a caravan. I can't see towing a caravan with an all electric vehicle being at all viable.

It seems quite possible that the government is going to kill off a large chunk of the £6 billion per year caravan industry.