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Current Affairs
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Stephen
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Mervyn and Trish
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Re: Current Affairs
Evidence?Ray Scully wrote: 04 Dec 2020, 11:55Aren't theyMervyn and Trish wrote: 04 Dec 2020, 11:44Are they?Ray Scully wrote: 04 Dec 2020, 11:26
Shocking, just as is the wealthy and privileged jumping the que![]()
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Onelife
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Re: Current Affairs
On this one l agree with Ray.....There is a black market for anything not least vaccines....probably not so much in this country but you can be sure there will be plenty who will pay to jump the queue.
Evidence: .....watch this space
Evidence: .....watch this space
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towny44
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Re: Current Affairs
I imagine that until a lot of other countries authorise the vaccines for use, then it will be impossible for it to get into the black market, because it will be too easy to trace its source. In addition the Biontec and Moderna ones will be very difficult for the black market to handle, so they will need to wait for the Oxford or similar vaccines to come available and their distribution to become more relaxed. By that time the UK could be well into vaccinating the under 50s making the black market option of little use.Onelife wrote: 04 Dec 2020, 21:59On this one l agree with Ray.....There is a black market for anything not least vaccines....probably not so much in this country but you can be sure there will be plenty who will pay to jump the queue.
Evidence: .....watch this space
John
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Onelife
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Re: Current Affairs
A fair assumption John but l would argue that until such time that countries do get authorisation and supplied with the vaccine they will be prime targets for the black market. I wasn't suggesting there would be thousands of prospective takers but for the rich and privileged there will be plenty of vaccines finding there way into the back of a refrigerator lorries... and I dare say, a few NHS consulting rooms.towny44 wrote: 04 Dec 2020, 22:54I imagine that until a lot of other countries authorise the vaccines for use, then it will be impossible for it to get into the black market, because it will be too easy to trace its source. In addition the Biontec and Moderna ones will be very difficult for the black market to handle, so they will need to wait for the Oxford or similar vaccines to come available and their distribution to become more relaxed. By that time the UK could be well into vaccinating the under 50s making the black market option of little use.Onelife wrote: 04 Dec 2020, 21:59On this one l agree with Ray.....There is a black market for anything not least vaccines....probably not so much in this country but you can be sure there will be plenty who will pay to jump the queue.
Evidence: .....watch this space
While we are the subject of refrigerated lorries I don't suppose you'd be interested a few frozen turkeys going cheap would you?
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oldbluefox
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david63
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Re: Current Affairs
There will be one problem of having the Covid vaccine from a black market source and that is that you will not be on the register as having been vaccinated which will make some aspects of life (such as foreign travel) difficult.
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towny44
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Re: Current Affairs
If they are still going Cheep will I need to ring its neck and pluck it?Onelife wrote: 05 Dec 2020, 04:51
A fair assumption John but l would argue that until such time that countries do get authorisation and supplied with the vaccine they will be prime targets for the black market. I wasn't suggesting there would be thousands of prospective takers but for the rich and privileged there will be plenty of vaccines finding there way into the back of a refrigerator lorries... and I dare say, a few NHS consulting rooms.
While we are the subject of refrigerated lorries I don't suppose you'd be interested a few frozen turkeys going cheap would you?![]()
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John
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Onelife
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Re: Current Affairs
Good Point David but where's there's a will there will be a way...me thinks!david63 wrote: 05 Dec 2020, 08:17There will be one problem of having the Covid vaccine from a black market source and that is that you will not be on the register as having been vaccinated which will make some aspects of life (such as foreign travel) difficult.
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Onelife
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Re: Current Affairs
I’ll have to ask my mate as he did say he was in a bit of a rush loading them into the lorrytowny44 wrote: 05 Dec 2020, 09:21If they are still going Cheep will I need to ring its neck and pluck it?Onelife wrote: 05 Dec 2020, 04:51
A fair assumption John but l would argue that until such time that countries do get authorisation and supplied with the vaccine they will be prime targets for the black market. I wasn't suggesting there would be thousands of prospective takers but for the rich and privileged there will be plenty of vaccines finding there way into the back of a refrigerator lorries... and I dare say, a few NHS consulting rooms.
While we are the subject of refrigerated lorries I don't suppose you'd be interested a few frozen turkeys going cheap would you?![]()
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Onelife
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Re: Current Affairs
I see you’re talking Gobbledygook again Foxy
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Mervyn and Trish
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Re: Current Affairs
Anyone who buys their vaccine from a bloke round the back of the pub deserves what they get. Which will probably be Covid.Onelife wrote: 04 Dec 2020, 21:59On this one l agree with Ray.....There is a black market for anything not least vaccines....probably not so much in this country but you can be sure there will be plenty who will pay to jump the queue.
Evidence: .....watch this space
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Mervyn and Trish
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Re: Current Affairs
Typical media negativity.
Sky News headline.
"Vaccine will only have marginal affect"
You have to read the full story to get the next bit:
"....on number of Covid patients coming in to the NHS over the next three months".
Well it's rubbish then. I won't bother with it.
Sky News headline.
"Vaccine will only have marginal affect"
You have to read the full story to get the next bit:
"....on number of Covid patients coming in to the NHS over the next three months".
Well it's rubbish then. I won't bother with it.
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towny44
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Re: Current Affairs
I think I will stick to believing JVT, he is the stand out sensible voice of this pandemic.Mervyn and Trish wrote: 05 Dec 2020, 11:57Typical media negativity.
Sky News headline.
"Vaccine will only have marginal affect"
You have to read the full story to get the next bit:
"....on number of Covid patients coming in to the NHS over the next three months".
Well it's rubbish then. I won't bother with it.
John
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Mervyn and Trish
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Re: Current Affairs
Too right. He knows even more than Beth, Robert and Laura. But only just.towny44 wrote: 05 Dec 2020, 12:01I think I will stick to believing JVT, he is the stand out sensible voice of this pandemic.Mervyn and Trish wrote: 05 Dec 2020, 11:57Typical media negativity.
Sky News headline.
"Vaccine will only have marginal affect"
You have to read the full story to get the next bit:
"....on number of Covid patients coming in to the NHS over the next three months".
Well it's rubbish then. I won't bother with it.
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oldbluefox
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Re: Current Affairs
So we are going to spend billions around the world on developing, producing and squirting something which "will only have marginal effect". I sometimes wonder what planet these Sky reporters are on. Why do they consistently do their best to run this country down?
In the meantime I'll be joining towny in the JVT Appreciation group. As an afterthought I wonder how many of the Sky reporters, presenters and workers will be having the vaccine. You'll probably be crushed in the queue!!!
In the meantime I'll be joining towny in the JVT Appreciation group. As an afterthought I wonder how many of the Sky reporters, presenters and workers will be having the vaccine. You'll probably be crushed in the queue!!!
I was taught to be cautious
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Gill W
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towny44
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I thoroughly enjoyed his rebuff to the ITV reporter (I think) on Wednesday, when he said he her comment that the govt had failed to meet its promise that care homes would be first to have the jab was grossly unfair, because care homes could not as yet use the Biontech until the MHRS agreed a safe handling protocol.oldbluefox wrote: 05 Dec 2020, 12:05So we are going to spend billions around the world on developing, producing and squirting something which "will only have marginal effect". I sometimes wonder what planet these Sky reporters are on. Why do they consistently do their best to run this country down?
In the meantime I'll be joining towny in the JVT Appreciation group. As an afterthought I wonder how many of the Sky reporters, presenters and workers will be having the vaccine. You'll probably be crushed in the queue!!!
John
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screwy
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screwy
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Re: Current Affairs
Not difficult to be fair...Mervyn and Trish wrote: 05 Dec 2020, 12:03Too right. He knows even more than Beth, Robert and Laura. But only just.towny44 wrote: 05 Dec 2020, 12:01I think I will stick to believing JVT, he is the stand out sensible voice of this pandemic.Mervyn and Trish wrote: 05 Dec 2020, 11:57Typical media negativity.
Sky News headline.
"Vaccine will only have marginal affect"
You have to read the full story to get the next bit:
"....on number of Covid patients coming in to the NHS over the next three months".
Well it's rubbish then. I won't bother with it.
Mel
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Frank Manning
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Re: Current Affairs
Its my Sue's birthday today. There were days in 2018 when I wondered if Sue would make this far. Thanks to our marvellous NHS, and thanks to her amazing sparky spirit, she is celebrating. Gutsy little lady.
We like Jonathan Van Tam, and Chris Witty. It seems to me that only the know all media hacks who cant see that they are talking sense.
We like Jonathan Van Tam, and Chris Witty. It seems to me that only the know all media hacks who cant see that they are talking sense.
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Stephen
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Re: Current Affairs
I would like to offer your good lady Sue my birthday wishes Frank. I hope she has an enjoyable day and can make the best of the current restrictions. 
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oldbluefox
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Happy birthday to Sue from us too Frank. Having enjoyed a table with you and your good lady we are so pleased that 2018 is now far behind her and you can look forward to happier days ahead. Luton aren't doing too badly either!!!!
I was taught to be cautious
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screwy
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Onelife
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Happy Birthday to your wife Frank….Sue has obviously got a good man at her side helping her through