Life After Brexit

[oldbluefox]

Such was the swell of opinion especially in the North he was forced into it by the growth of the Brexit party. He also misjudged it by believing we would vote to remain. The rest is history.

And to appease the euro skeptics in his own party

No doubt but if Major, Blair or Brown had followed through on their commitment to hold a referendum who knows what the result might have been.

[towny44]

We know the lady who owns Davidstowe cheese and she’s upping production in anticipation of tariffs on Eu cheddar making them uncompetitive.
Her best brand is Cathedral City. I don’t know if it sells where you are, but it will soon.
She’s a regular in Mrs B’s shop and comes up from North Cornwall.
So it’s not all negative.
There will be winners.

Isn't Cathedral City a brand of Dairy Crest which is owned by Canadian dairy processor Saputo?

[oldbluefox]

Don’t the fishermen export most of their catch to the EU, because we don’t eat the types of fish that are caught in our waters?

I don’t see how putting up barriers to trade (no deal) is really going to help them.

Not according to this article
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... es-a-catch

[towny44]

Don’t the fishermen export most of their catch to the EU, because we don’t eat the types of fish that are caught in our waters?

I don’t see how putting up barriers to trade (no deal) is really going to help them.

Not according to this article
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... es-a-catch

I do think that fisheries has just become a brexit icon which Boris would struggle to abandon. But if what I have been reading recently is true then most UK fishermen sold off their licenses to foreign trawlermen years ago because they could not operate them profitably.

[Mervyn and Trish]

Oh the irony. When Theresa May was trying to get a deal, even before they knew what it was Corbyn said Labour would vote against whatever deal she got. Asked today if Labour might vote against any last minute deal now Keir Starmer said any deal would be better than no deal. If that had been the attitude previously May's deal.would have passed. We'd now be out with a deal. Boris Johnson would never have become Prime Minister. So if anyone doesn't like where we are now there's the person to blame. It's not Boris. It's not Theresa. It's not the Brexiteers. It's not Farage. It's Corbyn.

This is not me disagreeing with you for the sake of it, and I don’t care two hoots about Corbyn.

However, if we must apportion blame surely it must be Cameron, who authorised the referendum in the first place.

If he hadn’t taken that action, I’d still be happily living my life in a country that wasn’t a complete basket case, barely thinking about the EU apart from a fuzzy feeling of belonging when I went through the EU passport channel at airports and minimal formalities on cruises at European ports.

This is me most definitely agreeing with you. I really meant among current politicians. But yes overall I blame Major, Blair, Brown and Cameron for successively misreading or ignoring the growing disquiet over aspects of the EU and specifically Cameron for his inept and complacent Remain campaign that actually encouraged me to vote Leave.

[Ray Scully]

Que sera sera

[barney]

We know the lady who owns Davidstowe cheese and she’s upping production in anticipation of tariffs on Eu cheddar making them uncompetitive.
Her best brand is Cathedral City. I don’t know if it sells where you are, but it will soon.
She’s a regular in Mrs B’s shop and comes up from North Cornwall.
So it’s not all negative.
There will be winners.

Isn't Cathedral City a brand of Dairy Crest which is owned by Canadian dairy processor Saputo?

No, it’s made down the road from us John in Davidstow. Just passed Bude.

[towny44]

We know the lady who owns Davidstowe cheese and she’s upping production in anticipation of tariffs on Eu cheddar making them uncompetitive.
Her best brand is Cathedral City. I don’t know if it sells where you are, but it will soon.
She’s a regular in Mrs B’s shop and comes up from North Cornwall.
So it’s not all negative.
There will be winners.

Isn't Cathedral City a brand of Dairy Crest which is owned by Canadian dairy processor Saputo?

No, it’s made down the road from us John in Davidstow. Just passed Bude.

That does not mean it is not part of dairy crest Barney, just check google if you dont believe me.

[Manoverboard]

I do think that fisheries has just become a brexit icon which Boris would struggle to abandon. But if what I have been reading recently is true then most UK fishermen sold off their licenses to foreign trawlermen years ago because they could not operate them profitably.

That, I believe, was because of the EU imposing much reduced quotas on the UK.

[Manoverboard]

We know the lady who owns Davidstowe cheese and she’s upping production in anticipation of tariffs on Eu cheddar making them uncompetitive.
Her best brand is Cathedral City. I don’t know if it sells where you are, but it will soon.
She’s a regular in Mrs B’s shop and comes up from North Cornwall.
So it’s not all negative.
There will be winners.

Davidstow is often, albeit when on offer, in our shopping basket ... very nice it is too

[oldbluefox]

I love Cathedral cheese. So many cheeses are advertised as mature or extra mature but have little flavour. Cathedral is proper mature. Thumbs up for Davidstow - good cheese.
Hopefully we will see more British cheeses come to the fore and a Buy British mentality become more prevalent..

[Gill W]

Thanks.
At least you are honest in your response.
As usual, I suspect that you are in the minority, but nothing wrong with that.

I would correct one thing in your statement.
We will always have access to the Eu market.
We don’t need a trade agreement for that.

I should have said tariff free access

[Gill W]

Don’t the fishermen export most of their catch to the EU, because we don’t eat the types of fish that are caught in our waters?

I don’t see how putting up barriers to trade (no deal) is really going to help them.

Not according to this article
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... es-a-catch

The article says that we export most of what we catch

[barney]

I was amazed to read that the UK exports tons of Cheddar every year while simultaneously importing tons of Cheddar every year.

Why ?

Hardly green is it ?

Trucks trundling up and down the motorways of Europe importing and exporting basically the same product.

Globalisation gone mad.

We always look for local first, British next, then if no choice as in Peppers etc, foreign.

I was listening to a bizarre anti Brexit argument this morning that if there is no agreement, Irish Beef imports will have an 80% tariff imposed which will affect the poorest in society.
Surely the poorest in society are not currently purchasing prime Irish beef anyway.
Prime Irish beef is a luxury of the wealthy.

I would like to see this government massively subsidise new food production plants in the UK, like Thanet Earth and we become as self sufficient as possible.
Holland, with a very similar climate to ours is the biggest tomato producer in Europe.
Surely a country as financially powerful as the UK can match that.

As a nation, we've got fat and lazy under the protectionist umbrella of the EU.
Why manufacture, grow, train etc when it's easier to import?
Now is the time to strike out.

[towny44]

I was amazed to read that the UK exports tons of Cheddar every year while simultaneously importing tons of Cheddar every year.

Why ?

Hardly green is it ?

Trucks trundling up and down the motorways of Europe importing and exporting basically the same product.

Globalisation gone mad.

We always look for local first, British next, then if no choice as in Peppers etc, foreign.

I was listening to a bizarre anti Brexit argument this morning that if there is no agreement, Irish Beef imports will have an 80% tariff imposed which will affect the poorest in society.
Surely the poorest in society are not currently purchasing prime Irish beef anyway.
Prime Irish beef is a luxury of the wealthy.

I would like to see this government massively subsidise new food production plants in the UK, like Thanet Earth and we become as self sufficient as possible.
Holland, with a very similar climate to ours is the biggest tomato producer in Europe.
Surely a country as financially powerful as the UK can match that.

As a nation, we've got fat and lazy under the protectionist umbrella of the EU.
Why manufacture, grow, train etc when it's easier to import?
Now is the time to strike out.

The main competitor to Dairy Crest is Ornua foods, who are based in Ireland. Their main cheddar brand is Pilgrims choice, and from reading up on them although they do have some production in the UK. I imagine they do export quite a lot from Ireland as well.

PS most of the Irish beef ends up as mince which is why the poorest are likely to see a price increase.

[Onelife]

Re: post 1039

Hi Barney,

You’ve echoed the conversations going on in my household this last few day and no doubt in many households across the county.

I couldn’t agree more.

[oldbluefox]

Don’t the fishermen export most of their catch to the EU, because we don’t eat the types of fish that are caught in our waters?

I don’t see how putting up barriers to trade (no deal) is really going to help them.

Not according to this article
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... es-a-catch

The article says that we export most of what we catch

It mentions nothing about the types of fish we eat simply that we export most of what we catch. Whereabouts does it say we export the types of fish we don't eat?

[Gill W]

Not according to this article
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... es-a-catch

The article says that we export most of what we catch

It mentions nothing about the types of fish we eat simply that we export most of what we catch. Whereabouts does it say we export the types of fish we don't eat?

I think you are resorting to semantics now.

Google is your friend if you are interested.

[oldbluefox]

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[Manoverboard]

It mentions nothing about the types of fish we eat simply that we export most of what we catch. Whereabouts does it say we export the types of fish we don't eat?

It should also be said that fish is sold at auction which suggests to me that the Spanish and French Agents are bidding higher than the UK buyers. The vast majority of high end shellfish is also exported because as a nation, albeit not me, we tend not to buy it.

[Mervyn and Trish]

The main competitor to Dairy Crest is Ornua foods, who are based in Ireland. Their main cheddar brand is Pilgrims choice, and from reading up on them although they do have some production in the UK. I imagine they do export quite a lot from Ireland as well.

Their biggest packaging plant is in our little town. As well as their own brands they supply a lot of supermarket own brands.

[Mervyn and Trish]

Re: post 1039

Hi Barney,

You’ve echoed the conversations going on in my household this last few day and no doubt in many households across the county.

I couldn’t agree more.

Me too

[allatc]

Place your bets now on how many days before french fishermen blockade French ports.

[oldbluefox]

Place your bets now on how many days before french fishermen blockade French ports.

As sure as day follows night.

[Onelife]

Well if the French do blockade the ports then it will mean we've got rid of one thorn in our side....Macron.

Unless he accepts he can't have all his fish fingers and eat them the French fishermen will use him as fish bait.