Life After Brexit

[Onelife]

Why are the leavers talking French...traitors..

Just doing our bit for Anglo/French relations

[towny44]

Why are the leavers talking French...traitors..

Just doing our bit for Anglo/French relations

That sounds very fishy to me.

[Manoverboard]

I haven't got any French relations ... just saying

[screwy]

Father in law’s funeral yesterday. WW2 veteran. He didn’t need a bloody visa on 6th June 44.

[oldbluefox]

Sorry to hear that screwy. Not the best of days for you and your family. Indeed they didn't barricade the ports when the Allies went over to rescue them but if they roll over when the French fishermen threaten them what chance did they strand against the Germans.

Nothing much is being reported on the negotiations but maybe that is a good sign.....................maybe not. We will just have to be patient and wait and see. However come January 1st I doubt we will suddenly be falling off a cliff edge and I doubt we will starve.

[screwy]

Thanks Foxy.
I heard this morning that Ursula said there is now a pathway to a deal but fishing remains a sticking point.

[david63]

Nothing much is being reported on the negotiations

Surprising how useful Covid can be at times!

[Onelife]

Nothing much is being reported on the negotiations

Surprising how useful Covid can be at times!

Not sure if I’m distorting your post intention David but in a macabre way, I believe there is some truth in what you say…. with all economies taking a hit from Covid the last thing they will be wanting is more pain from Brexit….so in a sence Brexit has probably played to our advantage.

[towny44]

Nothing much is being reported on the negotiations

Surprising how useful Covid can be at times!

Not sure if I’m distorting your post intention David but in a macabre way, I believe there is some truth in what you say…. with all economies taking a hit from Covid the last thing they will be wanting is more pain from Brexit….so in a sence Brexit has probably played to our advantage.

Conversely it's possible that covid does give a get out of jail free card to the conomic problems that a no deal brexit might create..

[Onelife]

Surprising how useful Covid can be at times!

Not sure if I’m distorting your post intention David but in a macabre way, I believe there is some truth in what you say…. with all economies taking a hit from Covid the last thing they will be wanting is more pain from Brexit….so in a sence Brexit has probably played to our advantage.

Conversely it's possible that covid does give a get out of jail free card to the conomic problems that a no deal brexit might create..

Indeed John, it also creates a buffer between those who will blame Brexit for the woe’s of the world and those of us who wanted change.

[barney]

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... ing-quotas

Maybe fishing is a tiny part of the GDP but this shows why it's important to have control.

We now have the French terrified that the Belgians & Dutch will swamp their waters and the Irish are terrified that all and sundry will be fishing in theirs.

[Mervyn and Trish]

All the EU have to agree is to recognise our right to manage our waters and accept that in future they have to negotiate with us as a sovereign state if they wish to fish there. The alternative is they get nothing and have to lay up parts of their fleets and lay off some of their fishermen. They seem to miss that the status quo, with them controlling our waters, is not an option.

[oldbluefox]

All the EU have to agree is to recognise our right to manage our waters and accept that in future they have to negotiate with us as a sovereign state if they wish to fish there. The alternative is they get nothing and have to lay up parts of their fleets and lay off some of their fishermen. They seem to miss that the status quo, with them controlling our waters, is not an option.

Stop talking common sense Merv!!!!

[screwy]

Merv for PM.and President.

[barney]

Ok, I’m not wishing to appear thick here, but can anyone have a go at explaining how the truck build up at Dover is due to U.K. suppliers stockpiling goods before January?
Surely it would explain the tailback at Calais but how can trucks leaving the U.K. be attributed to Brexit?

[Gill W]

Ok, I’m not wishing to appear thick here, but can anyone have a go at explaining how the truck build up at Dover is due to U.K. suppliers stockpiling goods before January?
Surely it would explain the tailback at Calais but how can trucks leaving the U.K. be attributed to Brexit?

People wanting to get their exports done before the end of the transition period?

Overseas hauliers wanting to get back over the channel before they are stuck in a lorry park indefinitely?

There’s reports that overseas hauliers simply aren’t going to bother coming to the U.K. in January

[towny44]

Ok, I’m not wishing to appear thick here, but can anyone have a go at explaining how the truck build up at Dover is due to U.K. suppliers stockpiling goods before January?
Surely it would explain the tailback at Calais but how can trucks leaving the U.K. be attributed to Brexit?

I guess if they are all returning empty that might be possible, but I doubt the empty ones account for very many.

[barney]

Ok, I’m not wishing to appear thick here, but can anyone have a go at explaining how the truck build up at Dover is due to U.K. suppliers stockpiling goods before January?
Surely it would explain the tailback at Calais but how can trucks leaving the U.K. be attributed to Brexit?

People wanting to get their exports done before the end of the transition period?

Overseas hauliers wanting to get back over the channel before they are stuck in a lorry park indefinitely?

There’s reports that overseas hauliers simply aren’t going to bother coming to the U.K. in January

Let’s hope so eh!
Kent has been adversely affected by foreign trucks for as long as I can remember.
Hopefully a lot of them will stay away after January.
Much greener and better for the environment.
Maybe there will only be a choice of ten yogurts instead of forty.
Let’s hope so.

[Manoverboard]

We could make all the yogurts here in the UK

[Mervyn and Trish]

We could make all the yogurts here in the UK

All the ones we buy are.

[Mervyn and Trish]

Ok, I’m not wishing to appear thick here, but can anyone have a go at explaining how the truck build up at Dover is due to U.K. suppliers stockpiling goods before January?
Surely it would explain the tailback at Calais but how can trucks leaving the U.K. be attributed to Brexit?

People wanting to get their exports done before the end of the transition period?

Overseas hauliers wanting to get back over the channel before they are stuck in a lorry park indefinitely?

There’s reports that overseas hauliers simply aren’t going to bother coming to the U.K. in January

Let’s hope so eh!
Kent has been adversely affected by foreign trucks for as long as I can remember.
Hopefully a lot of them will stay away after January.
Much greener and better for the environment.
Maybe there will only be a choice of ten yogurts instead of forty.
Let’s hope so.

Agreed. All the more work for the British truckers.

[david63]

Here's a thought.

If we only ate what we could grow ourselves when in season we would not need all these lorries going backwards and forwards!

[screwy]

People wanting to get their exports done before the end of the transition period?

Overseas hauliers wanting to get back over the channel before they are stuck in a lorry park indefinitely?

There’s reports that overseas hauliers simply aren’t going to bother coming to the U.K. in January

Let’s hope so eh!
Kent has been adversely affected by foreign trucks for as long as I can remember.
Hopefully a lot of them will stay away after January.
Much greener and better for the environment.
Maybe there will only be a choice of ten yogurts instead of forty.
Let’s hope so.

Agreed. All the more work for the British truckers.

Beat me to it Merv. As an ex continental trucker I can say that trucks don’t travel empty (except to pick up loads) just not economical/ viable. And yes if foreign trucks stay away then UK trucks can pick up those loads to bring back. Europeans still want to export their goods to us.

[Mervyn and Trish]

Here's a thought.

If we only ate what we could grow ourselves when in season we would not need all these lorries going backwards and forwards!

If Brexit forces up the prices of some imports maybe we will. Some of what we do now is bonkers to save a few pence. And so we can eat strawberries in December!

All the stuff we hear about business being hurt by Brexit ignores the fact that we import far more than we export. If UK entrepreneurs struggling to export to the EU re-focussed on supplying what the UK market wants we'd all be better off.

[oldbluefox]

I presume all the tariffs we raise on goods coming into the country will go into the Treasury's pockets and since we import more than we export there should be a net gain to us. Is that right?
Perhaps that can then be used to subsidise farmers, spend on the NHS or whichever way we want to spend it. At the moment the bulk of tariffs from non EU countries goes into the EU coffers so we should be better off in that respect if my thinking is correct.