Current Affairs

[oldbluefox]

I'm surprised Penny has not been more forceful in her dealings with Kemi. I expected her to be much stronger than that and got the feeling she was trying to be too nice, too gentle.
I feel Liz is much more of a force to be reckoned with; she certainly stood no nonsense from Kaye Burley so she is quite capable of staying calm but holding he own.
Rishi is just a smooth operator, very slick and I'm not surprised he is the favourite.

I had to laugh last night at Boris' reference to "a blue Tory ferret up the left trouser leg of the Labour party" in his reference to the last GE.

[Onelife]

Kemi gone.

…and I fear Penny will be next to go. Whichever way you look at it Penny has a mountain to climb if she is to stay in front of Liz. We will all have different views on how this will play out by my guess is that Kemi’s backers will spread their votes evenly which would see Sunak and Penny go through, however, I wouldn’t put it past the Sunak lobbyists to get those would be Sunak voters to vote for Truss as they will know Penny will be a bigger threat in a two-horse race.

The race is fixed and the best horse won't win in my opinion

[Mervyn and Trish]

I still say that the Tour De France is more interesting as a contest ...

Do you think a bike race would be a better selection process?

The current one does seem to operate a bit like voting people out of the Big Brother house.

[Manoverboard]

I still say that the Tour De France is more interesting as a contest ...

Do you think a bike race would be a better selection process?

The current one does seem to operate a bit like voting people out of the Big Brother house.

You are so right, climbing the hills and obstacles in a controlled way whilst saving a little for the end rather than following the Social Media course for slagging everybody off at breakneck speed. It lacked refinement at all levels.

[Kendhni]

…and I fear Penny will be next to go. Whichever way you look at it Penny has a mountain to climb if she is to stay in front of Liz. We will all have different views on how this will play out by my guess is that Kemi’s backers will spread their votes evenly which would see Sunak and Penny go through, however, I wouldn’t put it past the Sunak lobbyists to get those would be Sunak voters to vote for Truss as they will know Penny will be a bigger threat in a two-horse race.

Since Badenoch was very much right wing I think many of her votes will go to Truss, quite possibly making her the favourite. If that becomes true then that would be the worst possible decision for the tories, moving from one underachiever to another showing the electorate that the tories have learned nothing from their mistakes.

I think Badenoch will have achieved what she set out to do and get herself a senior cabinet position.

[screwy]

Time to ban bbq and any kind of fire in the open .

First job for the incoming government.

[Kendhni]

Time to ban bbq and any kind of fire in the open .

First job for the incoming government.

That would be in the same vein, and probably as popular as, banning alcohol.
While both are not necessarily bad ideas, you can't punish the many for the stupidity of the few.

[Onelife]

Time to ban bbq and any kind of fire in the open .

First job for the incoming government.

That would be in the same vein, and probably as popular as, banning alcohol.
While both are not necessarily bad ideas, you can't punish the many for the stupidity of the few.

Just wondering if John Grace is your pseudonym?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -with-rish

[Stephen]

Isn't that an eventure

[Onelife]

Isn't that an eventure

Loved that film especially the bit where the priest gave a speech before plunging into a pit of fire…"What more do you want of us? We've come all this way, no thanks to you. We did on our own no help from you. We didn't ask you to fight for us but damn it, don't fight against us! Leave us alone! How many more sacrifices? How much more blood? How many more lives? Belle wasn't enough. Acres wasn't. Now this girl! You want another life? Then take me!"

I think I cried at that point but I was only eighteen at the time

[oldbluefox]

Is the heat getting to you Keefy?

[Onelife]

Is the heat getting to you Keefy?

Nah! Foxy…I just think I’m a great example of how complex the human brain can be

[oldbluefox]

I'm impressed!!
(and not got a clue what you were talking about )

[Kendhni]

Just wondering if John Grace is your pseudonym?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -with-rish

I am not a Gruniad reader and definitely not a writer, although I like his style.
I am thinking of the irony of an underachieving right wing liberal democrat remain voter, like Truss, possibly getting the post of tory PM.

[david63]

I think Badenoch will have achieved what she set out to do and get herself a senior cabinet position.

Not necessarily. Would you want somebody in your cabinet that was initially after your job and then went on to criticise your policies?

[Kendhni]

I think Badenoch will have achieved what she set out to do and get herself a senior cabinet position.

Not necessarily. Would you want somebody in your cabinet that was initially after your job and then went on to criticise your policies?

There is a line of thought about keeping your friends close and your enemies closer.

That was one of Johnson's main problems, he surrounded himself with a cabinet of nodding donkeys, any dissenting voice was removed, which meant he had no balance ... so, just like Putin, he was being fed what people thought he wanted to hear, rather than reality. Hopefully a new PM will not be so cowardly and will be able to handle all views.

[towny44]

Just wondering if John Grace is your pseudonym?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -with-rish

I am not a Gruniad reader and definitely not a writer, although I like his style.
I am thinking of the irony of an underachieving right wing liberal democrat remain voter, like Truss, possibly getting the post of tory PM.

Not that I am a Truss supporter, but have you never had political views in your past that would conflict with your current ones?

[Onelife]

I think Badenoch will have achieved what she set out to do and get herself a senior cabinet position.

Not necessarily. Would you want somebody in your cabinet that was initially after your job and then went on to criticise your policies?

After this afternoon’s vote Truss will owe her…that’s how dirty politics work.

We should have stuck with Theresa, one of the only honest MP’s we have left.

[Kendhni]

Just wondering if John Grace is your pseudonym?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -with-rish

I am not a Gruniad reader and definitely not a writer, although I like his style.
I am thinking of the irony of an underachieving right wing liberal democrat remain voter, like Truss, possibly getting the post of tory PM.

Not that I am a Truss supporter, but have you never had political views in your past that would conflict with your current ones?

Indeed I have ... I used to be described as slightly right of Attilah the Hun ... I then wised up and would now be slightly right of centre (which, to ill informed right wing extremists, can look somewhat left wing). However there is a huge difference between evolving political views and adopting whatever political views are necessary to boost your career. Truss is in the latter category.

[Kendhni]

That reminds me, I promised I would come back to your previous question. it did make me think for a while. There is no doubt that the tory party has been moving to the right, and I had (rightly or wrongly) been working on the assumption that Johnson was actually in control of his party and that he guided its direction. I suppose it is possible that Johnson was never really able to take control of the party and was little more than a Ronald McDonald-esque figure head.

So you could be right about Johnson. He is a chimera that that has a habit of appearing to be whatever he thinks you want him to be to boost his career. He has no morals and will change direction from one side of the fence to the other based on his underlying inherent, self proclaimed, belief that he deserves to be in power.

[Onelife]

Indeed I have ... I used to be described as slightly right of Attilah the Hun .

[Manoverboard]

Indeed I have ... I used to be described as slightly right of Attilah the Hun .

I always thought you were ' A Tiller the Hum '

[Onelife]

Just as I thought....

But former minister David Davis was among several people accusing Mr Sunak’s team of “reallocating” votes to Ms Truss in order to improve his chances of victory in the final round.

The Tory MP, who is a key backer of Ms Mordaunt, told LBC on Tuesday night that it was the “the dirtiest campaign” he had ever seen, and revealed he had asked for an inquiry.

Hours earlier, a senior Sunak backer denied the ex-chancellor was “lending” votes to rivals as Ms Truss saw her vote share increase by 15, telling The Independent: “It's entirely possible that individual MPs have chosen to vote tactically, but we are encouraging every colleague who supports Rishi to vote for him.”

[Onelife]

Indeed I have ... I used to be described as slightly right of Attilah the Hun .

I always thought you were ' A Tiller the Hum '

You're a great example of how complex the human brain can be

[Kendhni]

The Tory MP, who is a key backer of Ms Mordaunt, told LBC on Tuesday night that it was the “the dirtiest campaign” he had ever seen, and revealed he had asked for an inquiry.

A possible solution is to put all 2 candidates forward to the final vote ... not necessarily procedural, but things like procedures and standards seem to be in somewhat limited in supply in government at the minute. Surely the tory party want to see the best possible leader and not another manipulated outcome.