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[oldbluefox]

Do you mean all 3 candidates Ken? It would certainly focus the minds of those who are tactically voting (which I believe they are).

[Kendhni]

Do you mean all 3 candidates Ken? It would certainly focus the minds of those who are tactically voting (which I believe they are).

Oops, fat fingered. Yes, I meant all 3 candidates. Thanks.

[Onelife]

The Tory MP, who is a key backer of Ms Mordaunt, told LBC on Tuesday night that it was the “the dirtiest campaign” he had ever seen, and revealed he had asked for an inquiry.

A possible solution is to put all 2 candidates forward to the final vote ... not necessarily procedural, but things like procedures and standards seem to be in somewhat limited in supply in government at the minute. Surely the tory party want to see the best possible leader and not another manipulated outcome.

Absolutely Ken...letting the party membership decide would be much fairer considering all the underhand dealings going on behind the scenes.
Sadly, the odds on offer don’t bode well for Penny’s chances as she’s currently trading at 5/1 with Truss 1/1 and Sunak 5/4 for the leadership.

[Manoverboard]

There are set procedures ... can't see them being altered for such-a-body's convenience.

[Onelife]

There are set procedures ... can't see them being altered for such-a-body's convenience.

Neither can I Mob but I’m finding some solace in agreeing with kens suggestion that under the circumstances it would have been fairer.

[Ray B]

Today Boris answered questions at PMQs for the last time.
Whoever replaces him will have an hard act to follow, no matter how you view him, one thing is sure, people will discuss him for a while yet.
If it was not for 'partygate' and other shenanigans by members of his party, it may have been a different story today

[Mervyn and Trish]

At least there have been alternative candidates in the Tory succession. When Bliar stood down Gordon Brown was elected unopposed.

[Ray B]

And that is how it should be, a choice by party members.

[towny44]

There are set procedures ... can't see them being altered for such-a-body's convenience.

Neither can I Mob but I’m finding some solace in agreeing with kens suggestion that under the circumstances it would have been fairer.

But if there was only one vote then probably none of the three would have commanded a majority of the votes.

[oldbluefox]

Today Boris answered questions at PMQs for the last time.
Whoever replaces him will have an hard act to follow, no matter how you view him, one thing is sure, people will discuss him for a while yet.
If it was not for 'partygate' and other shenanigans by members of his party, it may have been a different story today

PMQs will never be the same. For all that his critics say he did achieve many things which he set out to do. However he was flawed and it was those flaws which were his undoing.
He should have fired Cummings and instead tried to cover for him. People like Patterson and Pincher should have been put out of power but they weren't and the parties he knew about in No10 should have been stopped. He was too kind, too loyal to those around him when a firmer line as PM should have been taken and he tried to make excuses for them.
Now he will ride off and earn a fortune as an after dinner speaker and from writing his memoirs. PMQs will never be the same.

[david63]

Well there you have it Sunak v Truss

[Onelife]

So it’s two more year of the conservative party, then at least five years of the labour party…not sure this was the change they were promising.

[oldbluefox]

Well there you have it Sunak v Truss

Rayner and Blackford will be breathing a sigh of relief.

[Mervyn and Trish]

They were my original first choices before nominations even started but Penny grew on me.

[screwy]

Well there you have it Sunak v Truss

Rayner and Blackford will be breathing a sigh of relief.

I think the Ginger Growler and Laird of the Pies will still get a going over ,especially from Truss, not as hard as Penny though.

[Gill W]

PMQs will never be the same. For all that his critics say he did achieve many things which he set out to do. However he was flawed and it was those flaws which were his undoing.
He should have fired Cummings and instead tried to cover for him. People like Patterson and Pincher should have been put out of power but they weren't and the parties he knew about in No10 should have been stopped. He was too kind, too loyal to those around him when a firmer line as PM should have been taken and he tried to make excuses for them.
Now he will ride off and earn a fortune as an after dinner speaker and from writing his memoirs. PMQs will never be the same.
[/quote]

It was the lies that did for him.

Now we have Sunak v Truss.

I still haven't got my head around the fact the Liz Truss got to the final two.

[Stephen]

Perhaps she done a ‘Angela Rayner’

[Bensham33]

I don't care who wins. As long as it ain't Truss or Sunak. Is that really all there is to be Prime Minister? Surely we can do better than that.Michael Barrymore or Jimmy Carr may be.

[Kendhni]

I still haven't got my head around the fact the Liz Truss got to the final two.

Maybe the party grandee think she will be more easily manipulated ... personally I think they have made a big mistake by putting any trust in Truss (she is not a deliverer, no matter how many times she tells us she is). Both candidates will have made a lot of promises to various MPs to reach this stage .. the question will be whether or not they can deliver on them ... if not the back stabbing usually starts.

I still feel we are missing any detail on policies. They will probably get a free ride for most of this year, but they need to start delivering meaningful improvements for the country by Q1 of 2023.

One of my hopefuls got to the final two, my other hopes were Mordaunt and Wallace (who fell at the first hurdle but was replaced by Tugendhut).

All I have to say is 'Go Rishi'.

[barney]

PMQs will never be the same. For all that his critics say he did achieve many things which he set out to do. However he was flawed and it was those flaws which were his undoing.
He should have fired Cummings and instead tried to cover for him. People like Patterson and Pincher should have been put out of power but they weren't and the parties he knew about in No10 should have been stopped. He was too kind, too loyal to those around him when a firmer line as PM should have been taken and he tried to make excuses for them.
Now he will ride off and earn a fortune as an after dinner speaker and from writing his memoirs. PMQs will never be the same.

It was the lies that did for him.

Now we have Sunak v Truss.

I still haven't got my head around the fact the Liz Truss got to the final two.
[/quote]

What it shows Gill is that in this great country, any half wit can get to the top with a fair wind and a bit of luck.
I’d reckon that you’ll be showing Rehman the door and getting Medway back to a Labour seat

[screwy]

Things could get a lot worse. We could end up with the ‘Plastic Bollard’ as Pm one day.

[Ray B]

I still haven't got my head around the fact the Liz Truss got to the final two.

I still feel we are missing any detail on policies. They will probably get a free ride for most of this year, but they need to start delivering meaningful improvements for the country by Q1 of 2023.

As you are not a party member Ken, you will not have a vote to elect the leader, so details on policy is irrelevant. It will be the members who will be analyzing the two contestants for their vote.

[Onelife]

If this proves to be true then the whole process of selecting a new PM should start again…. if there was ever a time when we need honest politics it has to be now.



https://news.sky.com/story/leak-inquiry ... hances-in-

[Kendhni]

I still haven't got my head around the fact the Liz Truss got to the final two.

I still feel we are missing any detail on policies. They will probably get a free ride for most of this year, but they need to start delivering meaningful improvements for the country by Q1 of 2023.

As you are not a party member Ken, you will not have a vote to elect the leader, so details on policy is irrelevant. It will be the members who will be analyzing the two contestants for their vote.

I would disagree, I think it is important that the public are given an idea of policy. While many are not able to vote they can make their opinions heard through other channels that those who do vote can and may take notice of. When you think about it, anything that involves paying for voting rights really isn't the most democratic of processes ... very archaic, but it is the system we have.

[Kendhni]

If this proves to be true then the whole process of selecting a new PM should start again…. if there was ever a time when we need honest politics it has to be now.

https://news.sky.com/story/leak-inquiry-launched-after-claims-civil-service-tried-to-damage-penny-mordaunts-chances-in-

Link above fixed.
Given the current levels of corruption within government any such leaks were probably orchestrated, so I don't think anyone will pay a blind bit of notice ... beyond a bit of lip service. Seems to be the way it is these days.