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Onelife wrote: 15 Dec 2022, 22:28

Btw, my wife who is the most honest and sincere person you could ever wish to meet now believes them.
Maybe she just yearns for a quiet life.
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Apologies Screwy, it should have read Hi John.

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towny44 wrote: 15 Dec 2022, 22:33
Onelife wrote: 15 Dec 2022, 22:28

Btw, my wife who is the most honest and sincere person you could ever wish to meet now believes them.
Maybe she just yearns for a quiet life.
Perhaps she isn’t afraid to change her mind when faced with evidence that contradicts the crap you’ve been pumping out. :think: :)

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Onelife wrote: 15 Dec 2022, 22:46
towny44 wrote: 15 Dec 2022, 22:33
Onelife wrote: 15 Dec 2022, 22:28

Btw, my wife who is the most honest and sincere person you could ever wish to meet now believes them.
Maybe she just yearns for a quiet life.
Perhaps she isn’t afraid to change her mind when faced with evidence that contradicts the crap you’ve been pumping out. :think: :)
Now that's strange because I did not think I had pumped out anything, I have expressed surprise and concern at some of your comments, and doubted their veracity, but dont remember proffering my own views. So far I have only watched episode one, I am far too squeamish to watch more than one at a time, and with a gap in between to recover from the melodramatic acting. :angel:
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I’m sorry if I have misinterpreted your intentions/views but I hope you will understand when I say how difficult it has been not to lump you all together. :)

I’m delighted to hear that you have started watching the series, if it helps, you could go straight to instalment 5 as this instalment has in it all you will need to know in order to come to the other side.

Looking forward to meeting you. :) :wave:

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I am just baffled why you believe that a documentary over which the subjects have editorial control, which has no independent journalistic input and for which they have been paid huge sums to be sensational is the truth. It's one side of the story. But not the only side. And as I said before some of the truth they told in the equally one sided Oprah interview has already been shown to be far from it. If it's what you enjoy, fine, but you'd be better off with The Crown. Better acting.
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I genuinely believe that they genuinely believe it all to be true, with no introspection.
As I’ve said previously, it’s all very sad for the young couple and both families.
Everyone is a loser.
Sure they are making some money but they and their children will be the long term losers.
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I agree with Mervyn. Until, and it's very unlikely it will happen, we hear both sides I don't see how you can come down on the side of H&M. I admit I'm a monarchist and I don't understand how a couple who have stated they want privacy, don't want any attention from the media and support climate change, can do the things they have, and live as they do. To refer to the cottage in the grounds of Kensington Palace as a hovel - I'm sure some of the people living in dreadful conditions would love to go and live in that hovel. I believe in the Monarchy rather than having any sort of Presidency. You don't Onelife which is absolutely fine - I'm not trying to persuade you to change. Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs.
Before I post this I'll apologise to Moby in advance as he said that I keep posting things twice. It's very difficult if I'm told You may want to revise this posting, or You can't post so soon after making a posting, when I haven't. If it seems the post hasn't been accepted then I have no option but to press Submit again. So sorry if this results in a double posting.

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I must admit that one thing that I do find unbelievable is his statement that his brother shouted at him and he was terrified.
It’s beyond belief that a combat veteran would be terrified of being shouted at by his brother.
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I also read that Her Majesty was very concerned and actually depressed by Harry’s actions and may well have contributed to her death.
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Mervyn and Trish wrote: 16 Dec 2022, 09:48
I am just baffled why you believe that a documentary over which the subjects have editorial control, which has no independent journalistic input and for which they have been paid huge sums to be sensational is the truth. It's one side of the story. But not the only side. And as I said before some of the truth they told in the equally one sided Oprah interview has already been shown to be far from it. If it's what you enjoy, fine, but you'd be better off with The Crown. Better acting.
Hi Sir Merv…

I am just baffled why you believe that a documentary over which the subjects have editorial control, which has no independent journalistic input and for which they have been paid huge sums to be sensational is the truth.

Sorry, I’m also a little baffled as I’m not quite sure if you are referring to the independent journalistic imput of the tabloids who have editorial control over the garbage, they have been dishing out in order to discredit the reputation of a young couple, a couple who have done nothing wrong other than being seen to take the limelight away from W & K…this is actually what this is all about Imo.

The saddest part of this from a Monarchists perspective is that Harry and lovely Meghan could have done so much to bring the Monarchy into the 21st century.

I have two wishes; one is that they can move on from this sad episode in their lives and live happily ever after in America….my second wish is that after watching this I hope Kate can find the courage to put her happiness before that of duty and get out of what I believe to be a loveless marriage.

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barney wrote: 16 Dec 2022, 12:29
I also read that Her Majesty was very concerned and actually depressed by Harry’s actions and may well have contributed to her death.
I’m sure there were contributing factors to the sad death of the Queen but I doubt harry was one of them. There is however a story due to be released that Meghan kicked one of the corgis :sarcasm: which may or not have contributed to her failing health.
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Onelife wrote: 16 Dec 2022, 13:19
barney wrote: 16 Dec 2022, 12:29
I also read that Her Majesty was very concerned and actually depressed by Harry’s actions and may well have contributed to her death.
I’m sure there were contributing factors to the sad death of the Queen but I doubt harry was one of them. There is however a story due to be released that Meghan kicked one of the corgis :sarcasm: which may or not have contributed to her failing health.
Of course I was just being mischievous, a bit like you are, but a more serious point is that my allegation is totally unsubstantiated, just like M & H’s.
If they were serious about the victimisation they alleged to have suffered, one would expect them to put up or shut up.
‘ my brother shouted at me and I was terrified’
Come on.
Whatever happened to the Army Captain with two tours of combat ?
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Voice projection can be oh so scary ... just saying 8-)
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barney wrote: 16 Dec 2022, 14:07
Onelife wrote: 16 Dec 2022, 13:19
barney wrote: 16 Dec 2022, 12:29
I also read that Her Majesty was very concerned and actually depressed by Harry’s actions and may well have contributed to her death.
I’m sure there were contributing factors to the sad death of the Queen but I doubt harry was one of them. There is however a story due to be released that Meghan kicked one of the corgis :sarcasm: which may or not have contributed to her failing health.
Of course I was just being mischievous, a bit like you are, but a more serious point is that my allegation is totally unsubstantiated, just like M & H’s.
If they were serious about the victimisation they alleged to have suffered, one would expect them to put up or shut up.
‘ my brother shouted at me and I was terrified’
Come on.
Whatever happened to the Army Captain with two tours of combat ?
I think they did ‘put up’... didn’t they successfully sue one of the tabloids for false claims made against them?

I think subscribers to this topic have already suggested that Harry has more of a placid nature so being confronted by a bully and a liar at the same time he could well have been intimidated….just like what you lot have done to me on here… Squeak! Squeak! :cry:

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I think you are incorrect on that one mate.
Meghan sued the Mail on Sunday for publishing the letter that she had sent to her father.
Her father had supplied the letter to the paper.
She sued claiming that it was a private letter and that she had copyright on it.
The court agreed with her and awarded £1 in compensation.
She did win the argument but didn’t get the compensation she thought she deserved.
As for Harry, I think we can all agree that he was probably the most popular Royal before these episodes.
I fear that if he’s as vulnerable as we are lead to believe by the ‘very private’ couple, it won’t end well.
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From the clips and reports I have seen it all seems 'much about nowt' :yawn:
Ever since they started trying to preach to the rest of us and promoting their own self interests, then resorting to telling lies in the Winfrey programme I'm afraid I have no time for either of them but just wish they would go away and live the private lives they said they wanted. Once they told those lies I find it very difficult to believe anything else they might say even if they do try to dress it up as 'their truth '.
Some of those Netflix scenes are extremely intrusive (rehearsed?) with an abundance of very personal, intimate clips, which include their children, whom they said they wanted to protect from the media glare. Of course if you pay a shed load of money that is perfectly acceptable. It seems very mercenary to me.

Interesting article here by BBC Correspondent Katie Razzall:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-63989977

Get Harry's book over and done with and what's left for the pair of them - Whingealong Revisited perhaps? Maybe Trevor, her former husband will be publishing his book, or perhaps her father and half sister sharing their stories?

I feel particularly sad for their children who may become isolated from their respective families as a consequence of their parents' actions. They are the innocent ones.
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I read that article this morning Foxy and the first thought that came to my head is that she along with all the other journalists have no other choice other than carry on whipping lovely Meghan…they’ve created the lies and now must stick by them…they will however turn their attentions to another victim as and when Will and Charlie feel they are not getting the attention they think they deserve.

What I can tell you for certain is there was nothing false in the way both Harry and Meghan interacted with their children…any loving parent who watched last night will agree with me that they are devoted to their children and that their children are being brought up in an environment far removed from that of royal protocol…if it stays that way, they should grow up to be well balanced children.

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Have you had your Christmas card from H&M yet Keith ;)

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I actually thought it was a very measured and non-committed piece of journalism taking neither of the two sides. I didn't see anywhere which was critical of Meghan only to say we only have one side of the story.

I don't doubt their children are loved and well cared for but isolated from grandparents, apart from Meghan's mother, aunts and uncles seems to me a very strange and isolated world unless Oprah becomes a surrogate auntie.
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barney wrote: 16 Dec 2022, 15:05
I think you are incorrect on that one mate.
Meghan sued the Mail on Sunday for publishing the letter that she had sent to her father.
Her father had supplied the letter to the paper.
She sued claiming that it was a private letter and that she had copyright on it.
The court agreed with her and awarded £1 in compensation.
She did win the argument but didn’t get the compensation she thought she deserved.
As for Harry, I think we can all agree that he was probably the most popular Royal before these episodes.
I fear that if he’s as vulnerable as we are lead to believe by the ‘very private’ couple, it won’t end well.
Oh’ Barney, you could have mentioned the other £1 million that the publishers had to donate to charity.

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oldbluefox wrote: 16 Dec 2022, 16:50
I actually thought it was a very measured and non-committed piece of journalism taking neither of the two sides. I didn't see anywhere which was critical of Meghan only to say we only have one side of the story.

I don't doubt their children are loved and well cared for but isolated from grandparents, apart from Meghan's mother, aunts and uncles seems to me a very strange and isolated world unless Oprah becomes a surrogate auntie.
In the case of Grandpa Charles and Thomas… I see it as Child protection… Grandmother Doria is lovely just like her daughter. :thumbup:

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Stephen wrote: 16 Dec 2022, 16:47
Have you had your Christmas card from H&M yet Keith ;)
I haven’t as yet Stephen but having singlehandedly defended their reputation it won’t have gone unnoticed, I’m sure. ;) :D

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Could be an invite as well…….from THE Tower :)

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Stephen wrote: 16 Dec 2022, 17:53
Could be an invite as well…….from THE Tower :)
I wouldn’t fall for that one Stephen…anything that comes out of that establishment must be treated with suspicion :thumbdown: :D

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