Current Affairs 2023

[Stephen]

Fight fight fight…..Merv said

[Mervyn and Trish]

I'm on holiday. Didn't bring my boxing gloves with me. BTW don't even think about a party at our gaffe. I've left the lions unleashed and unfed.

[towny44]

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Who knows - I certainly don't. Anything is possible these days.

The point that is in question is whether she had/has any political leanings, which it appears that she may have, and whether those political leanings may have had any influence on her report.

This is what I mean - she has an unblemished record, has worked with the Conservative government for 13 years. She was praised by the likes of Rees-Mogg and Dorries for her trustworthiness for the job of doing the report. Her report was accepted by all parties involved, without any doubts being cast on it. Now all of a sudden, people are smearing her with innuendos about her political leanings and whether these leanings influenced her report.

I know corruption was normalised in the Johnson era, but not every one is corrupt. If people are worried about corruption there was plenty of other things going on, but for whatever reason people didn't think it mattered or just wanted to ignore it.

I do so enjoy reading the posts of some people, who try to indicate that they know more about the personal lives of people in the public eye, than the rest of us.
I have no idea whether Sue Gray leans to the left or the right, or how unblemished her record is, or whether and when Sir Keir sounded her out for a job. But I have an equal right as anyone to ask that maybe someone should be setting up an enquiry to establish the true facts of the case although, because I believe that everyone should be innocent until proven guilty, then maybe we should all wait for the enquiry to conclude. Oh but hang on, no one has asked for an enquiry as yet!

[Mervyn and Trish]

Just imagine that hypothetically Sue Gray had cleared Boris of wrongdoing and a few months later been appointed to a senior role in the Tory party. Would those praising her impartiality and character still be doing so?

[oldbluefox]

Just imagine that hypothetically Sue Gray had cleared Boris of wrongdoing and a few months later been appointed to a senior role in the Tory party. Would those praising her impartiality and character still be doing so?

In the course of even handedness of course they would.................wouldn't they?

[david63]

Just imagine that hypothetically Sue Gray had cleared Boris of wrongdoing and a few months later been appointed to a senior role in the Tory party. Would those praising her impartiality and character still be doing so?

I, for one, would still be asking the same questions!

[oldbluefox]

But you would be questioning her impartiality, not defending it. That is the difference.

[Onelife]

I’ve got more chance of picking the first 10 winners at Cheltenham than Boris being cleared of any wrongdoing.

Just for the record who of you think Boris is innocent of any wrongdoing…only asking so that I can have a good laugh when the truth comes out.

[david63]

who of you think Boris is innocent of any wrongdoing

I doubt that many are innocent of any wrongdoing - it all comes down to what the wrongdoing is/was

[Ray B]

Suella Braverman has laid out the government plans to stop immigrants staying in the UK if arriving by small boats. Sounds good to me if, and it is a big if, they manage to put it into operation. No doubt the immigration solicitors will be finding anyway at all to stop it, after all it is a big revenue stream for them.
The SNP MP did say they fully back the rites of immigrants to stay and support international law for immigration. That being the case, just send all the boat people up to Scotland and see how they like it.

[Onelife]

who of you think Boris is innocent of any wrongdoing

I doubt that many are innocent of any wrongdoing - it all comes down to what the wrongdoing is/was

He has already been fined for doing what he was telling everyone else not to do

[david63]

He has already been fined for doing what he was telling everyone else not to do

Even though half the population were doing the exact same thing!

[Mervyn and Trish]

But no-one in the Labour Party, of course.

[Mervyn and Trish]

Here's another question for those who think Sue Gray is beyond reproach, if the process of recruiting her to this new job was squeaky clean, why are Labour politicians dodging the one simple question, when did it begin? The answer is simple, it's just a date. If there is nothing to hide what's the problem? And they say Boris never gives a straight answer.

[Onelife]

He has already been fined for doing what he was telling everyone else not to do

Even though half the population were doing the exact same thing!

Were they?

But then, I've always thought of myself as a goody two shoes

[Mervyn and Trish]

The other half OL.

[Onelife]

The other half OL.

Nope! She’s a 'goody two shoes' as well

[Gill W]

Just imagine that hypothetically Sue Gray had cleared Boris of wrongdoing and a few months later been appointed to a senior role in the Tory party. Would those praising her impartiality and character still be doing so?

I think you are try to compare an apple to an orange here. In order to make this comparison, Sue Grey would have had to have made a report that stitched Johnson up like a kipper. But she didn’t. Her report was accepted by all parties - in fact at one point last summer Johnson was claiming that it exonerated him! Personally, I think the report could have gone a lot further. She didn’t report on the most damning party, the ABBA party in Johnson’s own flat.

Here's another question for those who think Sue Gray is beyond reproach, if the process of recruiting her to this new job was squeaky clean, why are Labour politicians dodging the one simple question, when did it begin? The answer is simple, it's just a date. If there is nothing to hide what's the problem? And they say Boris never gives a straight answer.

I think they are waiting for due process to happen. Sue Grey has said nothing about this in public, and this is her personal business. The information was released into the public domain by a leak, not by announcement by Grey or Labour. Grey will be referring this to Acoba, and I expect all the relevant information will be made available at that time. We just have to wait.

[Mervyn and Trish]

I see we have a new Duke of Edinburgh. I presume OL will be sending congratulations and chocs.

[Stephen]

I see we have a new Duke of Edinburgh. I presume OL will be sending congratulations and chocs.

No chocs since the fire........there is a god after all

Harry must be thinking, will there be anything left for me.

[Onelife]

You all must be squirming at this announcement…especially knowing Edward and Sophie are the biggest freeloaders of them all…laughable!!

[Mervyn and Trish]

They actually work very hard but quietly and unnoticed by those not closely involved with the work they do and organisations they support. Unlike some who make a huge fuss about their own importance.

[Onelife]

They actually work very hard but quietly and unnoticed by those not closely involved with the work they do and organisations they support. Unlike some who make a huge fuss about their own importance.

Keep them coming Sir Merv, you’ve got me in stitches with that comment

Wasn’t it Sophie who tried to use her Royal connection to bolster her PR company?

As for her freeloading “It’s a Knockout” Clown, wasn’t he the one who used an all expenses far East visit to push his failed film company?

This is a cruel blow for the unfortunate people of Scotland.

[Mervyn and Trish]

This isn't a party political comment because they all do it. Following the budget the leader of the opposition's speech was the usual that's not good enough/too little too late/we wouldn't have done that clichés. It made me wonder if they just cut and paste all the usual nonsense and trot it out. Or do they get sight of the speech in advance so they can respond in an intelligent way to what it actually says? Wouldn't it be refreshing to hear an opposition leader say we welcome this or that and support it rather than reject the whole lot automatically?

Cue OL to call for a revolution.

[towny44]

The best revolution for OL would be for him to be condemned to a non stop ride on a very fast Waltzer.