Covid Jabs - again

[Stephen]

Being too young and healthy (cough) I'm having to wait for the invite.

[Gill W]

I think it probably is, if you compare the severity of the illness prior to a vaccine, and now that we have regular boosters available. Of course anyone who decides they don't need a booster, might actually prove it still packs a punch, but so can flu to the unvaccinated.

Covid is going on about 700 death certificates each week, so still not exactly 'over'.

However, I think the situation is evolving. The acute stage of the illness can still make a person very sick, but there's the aftermath as well. In March, the OND estimated that 2.9% of the population had Long Covid. Plus there's the other after effects that can happen, like the organ damage, damage to the vascular system and post viral syndromes, when people are are fair game for any infections going. I mean, most people know someone who's complained that they 'just haven't been right for months and get every bug going'. Not to mention the sudden deaths - when I'm perusing the news, I'm always thinking 'not another one' - The ONS confirm that deaths this year are 7% above the 5 year average - so there is something odd going on.

But that just means that covid is now endemic, like flu, because of vaccines it no longer causes a pandemic, and science should keep us abreast of any mutations.

Endemic doesn't mean benign or acceptable - it just means predictable. It's still mutating at a rapid pace, there's a mind boggling amount of mutations, There's too many to keep up with. As before, there are still variants of concern, but they are not reported on the news anymore, as Covid is rarely mentioned anymore, as people don't really want to know. As an example, a variant of concern is causing a surge in India at the moment, but it's not been reported on the main news channels here.


It is what it is, but one day, I think society will regret the policies of the last few years.

[Onelife]

Spring booster eligibility
COVID-19 is more serious in older people and in people with certain underlying health conditions. For these reasons, people aged 75 years and over, those in care homes, and those aged 5 years and over with a weakened immune system are being offered a spring booster of COVID-19 vaccine.

Timing of the spring booster
You should be offered an appointment between April and June, with those at highest risk being called in first. You will be invited to have your booster around 6 months from your last dose but you can have it from 3 months.

If you are turning 75 years of age between April and June, you will be called for vaccination during the campaign; you do not have to wait for your birthday.

[Manoverboard]

Just had my invite, waiting on Mobietta's now

[Onelife]

Just had my invite, waiting on Mobietta's now

Get In

[Mervyn and Trish]

We've not had invitations but we have now booked for next Tuesday

[Onelife]

We've not had invitations but we have now booked for next Tuesday

I’ve just had a thought Sir Merv...I could go as ‘you’ and you could come along as my Grandad (who often forgets his appointments)…this way we both get to have the jab.

[Mervyn and Trish]

But which one of us will they think is Trish?

[Onelife]

But which one of us will they think is Trish?

The one who they think is the most attractive looking at your very attractive wife

[towny44]

I think it probably is, if you compare the severity of the illness prior to a vaccine, and now that we have regular boosters available. Of course anyone who decides they don't need a booster, might actually prove it still packs a punch, but so can flu to the unvaccinated.

Covid is going on about 700 death certificates each week, so still not exactly 'over'.

However, I think the situation is evolving. The acute stage of the illness can still make a person very sick, but there's the aftermath as well. In March, the OND estimated that 2.9% of the population had Long Covid. Plus there's the other after effects that can happen, like the organ damage, damage to the vascular system and post viral syndromes, when people are are fair game for any infections going. I mean, most people know someone who's complained that they 'just haven't been right for months and get every bug going'. Not to mention the sudden deaths - when I'm perusing the news, I'm always thinking 'not another one' - The ONS confirm that deaths this year are 7% above the 5 year average - so there is something odd going on.

But that just means that covid is now endemic, like flu, because of vaccines it no longer causes a pandemic, and science should keep us abreast of any mutations.

Endemic doesn't mean benign or acceptable - it just means predictable. It's still mutating at a rapid pace, there's a mind boggling amount of mutations, There's too many to keep up with. As before, there are still variants of concern, but they are not reported on the news anymore, as Covid is rarely mentioned anymore, as people don't really want to know. As an example, a variant of concern is causing a surge in India at the moment, but it's not been reported on the main news channels here.


It is what it is, but one day, I think society will regret the policies of the last few years.

We have discussed this many times in the past Gill, the UK deaths from covid are based on covid being one of the causes of death as listed on the death certificate, rather than the primary cause of death. I doubt you will agree with me but that's no real way to produce worthwhile figures.

[Manoverboard]

Still waiting for the heads up from the surgery ....

All booked in on Tuesday May 2nd +

[david63]

All booked in on Tuesday May 2nd

Just in time for the Coronation

[Onelife]

All booked in on Tuesday May 2nd

Just in time for the Coronation

This thread was ticking along nicely till you intervened

[Gill W]

We have discussed this many times in the past Gill, the UK deaths from covid are based on covid being one of the causes of death as listed on the death certificate, rather than the primary cause of death. I doubt you will agree with me but that's no real way to produce worthwhile figures.

As I said in the rest of my post, it's no longer solely about 'how many people are dying of Covid'

But, as I also said, people feel happier about not knowing. Not much that can be done about that, but things are still happening, whether people are aware of it or not.

[david63]

but things are still happening, whether people are aware of it or not.

And people are still getting cancer and having heart attacks and strokes, the list goes on but we, or at least most of us, do not spend our lives worrying about it and continually poring over the statistics.

[david63]

This thread was ticking along nicely till you intervened

Just thought that I would brighten your day up

[Mervyn and Trish]

All together now...

"God Save our Gracious King....."

[Manoverboard]

All booked in on Tuesday May 2nd

Just in time for the Coronation

Indeed so, one cannot be certain that one wouldn't catch something untoward from another one at such a prestigious venue.

[Gill W]

but things are still happening, whether people are aware of it or not.

And people are still getting cancer and having heart attacks and strokes, the list goes on but we, or at least most of us, do not spend our lives worrying about it and continually poring over the statistics.

Well, yes, and as Covid is known to put people at higher risk or heart attack and strokes, not to mention other post Covid sequelae, unfortunately more people than before will face health problems

By the way, being aware of what's going on is not 'spending a life worrying about it'. It doesn't need 'poring over statistics' to gain a basic awareness of the situation.

[Stephen]

Gawd Bless Him

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[Onelife]

All booked in on Tuesday May 2nd

Just in time for the Coronation

Indeed so, one cannot be certain that one wouldn't catch something untoward from another one at such a prestigious venue.

Oh’ come on Mob its nearly teatime

[towny44]

We have discussed this many times in the past Gill, the UK deaths from covid are based on covid being one of the causes of death as listed on the death certificate, rather than the primary cause of death. I doubt you will agree with me but that's no real way to produce worthwhile figures.

As I said in the rest of my post, it's no longer solely about 'how many people are dying of Covid'

But, as I also said, people feel happier about not knowing. Not much that can be done about that, but things are still happening, whether people are aware of it or not.

And many more are dying of cancer, strokes, heart attacks and lots of other ailments, but we don't react in the same way about these deaths.
I agree that Covid has not gone away, but we have to learn to live with it, in the same way that we live with lots of other diseases and ailments.

PS sorry David, I seem to have answered in exactly the same way as you did, I really should try to read all replies before I post.

[oldbluefox]

Ban him David

I must say Covid is the least of my worries. I don't think I'll be losing any sleep over it. It's still there and we just have to live with it.

[Onelife]

Ban him David

I must say Covid is the least of my worries. I don't think I'll be losing any sleep over it. It's still there and we just have to live with it.

Not before he gives him a good slapping I hope

[Gill W]

I really find it strange that people say we ‘have to live with it’ and yet they prefer to know nothing about it.

To my mind, living with something means understanding it and keeping up to date with it

But I get that it’s easier and more comfortable to not look too closely.

I won’t say anymore, as I can see that people don’t want to know. Just hope that you don’t get too many surprises further on down the road.