Truth and Accountability

[Onelife]

In Prince Harry’s High Court victory against the Mirror, the judge found there was no doubt that Piers Morgan, as editor, knew Harry’s phone was tapped. (Piers, of course, says he didn’t.) Mr Justice Fancourt also says two ex-Mirror execs, Richard Wallace, now head of TV at Murdoch’s NewsUK, and Gary Jones, now editor of the Daily Express, knew about tapping.
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To think many of you on the forum believed all the “crap” Piers Morgan and his Mirror Group were publishing about Harry.... and his lovely wife Meghan.

Harry should be praised for bringing this, and further lawsuits against these media groups who think they can make up stories with total disregard to the truth.

[towny44]

He only managed to convince a doddering old judge, and you, he certainly didnt convince me, and anyway the little turd deserved all he got.

[Ray Scully]

In Prince Harry’s High Court victory against the Mirror, the judge found there was no doubt that Piers Morgan, as editor, knew Harry’s phone was tapped. (Piers, of course, says he didn’t.) Mr Justice Fancourt also says two ex-Mirror execs, Richard Wallace, now head of TV at Murdoch’s NewsUK, and Gary Jones, now editor of the Daily Express, knew about tapping.
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To think many of you on the forum believed all the “crap” Piers Morgan and his Mirror Group were publishing about Harry.... and his lovely wife Meghan.

Harry should be praised for bringing this, and further lawsuits against these media groups who think they can make up stories with total disregard to the truth.

It’s just not that these so called press barons are prepared to mess up lives of individual. What really scares me is that they so easily manipulate the political process, ensuring their interests and those of their friends are prioritised and protected.

[oldbluefox]

Harry and truth in the same sentence? Hmm.....

[Onelife]

He only managed to convince a doddering old judge, and you, he certainly didnt convince me, and anyway the little turd deserved all he got.

This is a big diversion from your normally sensible posts John…however, I do understand how not wishing to seek the truth can distort one’s judgment.

[Onelife]

In Prince Harry’s High Court victory against the Mirror, the judge found there was no doubt that Piers Morgan, as editor, knew Harry’s phone was tapped. (Piers, of course, says he didn’t.) Mr Justice Fancourt also says two ex-Mirror execs, Richard Wallace, now head of TV at Murdoch’s NewsUK, and Gary Jones, now editor of the Daily Express, knew about tapping.
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To think many of you on the forum believed all the “crap” Piers Morgan and his Mirror Group were publishing about Harry.... and his lovely wife Meghan.

Harry should be praised for bringing this, and further lawsuits against these media groups who think they can make up stories with total disregard to the truth.

It’s just not that these so called press barons are prepared to mess up lives of individual. What really scares me is that they so easily manipulate the political process, ensuring their interests and those of their friends are prioritised and protected.

Absolutely Ray…it begs the question of who really has the power in this country. Whilst political parties see themselves as representative of change and reform, they are all subject to a media which can either make or break these ambitions. The influence that the press has over our political system has escalated to a point where decision making is compromised for fear of press negativity and the influence such press has over the electorate.

[barney]

This was brought as a civil case because it would never stand up as a criminal case due to lack of hard evidence.
The judges conclusions that there is a probability that phone hacking took place.
Personally, I don’t doubt that there were shenanigans.
I’ve a relative who worked as a private detective around that time and he used to get up to all sorts.

I’m just hoping that Harry and his grifter wife now ride off quietly into the sunset to live their ‘private lives’ and we are not constantly bombarded with their whinging and moaning about how tough life is.
It’s got to be one of the best cons in history, when an over privileged couple can convince ordinary hardworking people to actually feel sorry for them.
Quite a few of the hard of thinking have fallen for it.

[david63]

I’m just hoping that Harry and his grifter wife now ride off quietly into the sunset to live their ‘private lives’ and we are not constantly bombarded with their whinging and moaning about how tough life is.

I wouldn't hold your breath on that one - Harry has already said that this is only the start.

[Slapstick]

Morgans response "Today a judge in the High Court in London has ruled on various cases including Prince Harry’s claim against Mirror Group Newspapers, where I was an editor until 2004. The judgment finds there is just one article relating to the prince published in The Daily Mirror during my entire nine-year tenure as editor that he thinks may have involved some unlawful information gathering.

One article and some seem to think it's all Morgan's fault, love him or hate him he speaks his mind and that's what little hard done by Harry and others can't take.

Harry and her have sold the Monarchy down the river with all their claims yet they still profit from using their royal titles and selling their hardship stories and he's got the front to argue the case for privacy, hypocrisy at it's very best in my opinion.

[Ray Scully]

"It’s got to be one of the best cons in history, when an over privileged couple can convince ordinary hardworking people to actually feel sorry for
them."



NO! the best con in history is when 5 billionaire press barons can manipulate our democracy and continually get away with it.

[Stephen]

I agree Slapstick.

If you can’t take the heat get out of the kitchen.

[Ray Scully]

Well given that he served for 10 years in the army including two tours of Afghanistan and is prepared to take on the press barons rather than being bought off as allegedly his brother was. I don’t think the comments of a few keyboard warriors will upset him

[paultheagle]

That whole practice of reporting in that underhand way was a disgrace and I'm pleased the press got caught.

Well done Harry. It's about time the press were outed for all the lies and made up stories we all claim to know they print day after day. The reports we read in our newspapers much be accurate and honest. Hopefully this judgement will make editors think again before publishing a story that just ain't true

[Onelife]

I agree Slapstick.

If you can’t take the heat get out of the kitchen.

I agree with both Ray and Paul

[barney]

"It’s got to be one of the best cons in history, when an over privileged couple can convince ordinary hardworking people to actually feel sorry for
them."



NO! the best con in history is when 5 billionaire press barons can manipulate our democracy and continually get away with it.

How exactly do you think you've been manipulated Ray ?

[Ray Scully]

"It’s got to be one of the best cons in history, when an over privileged couple can convince ordinary hardworking people to actually feel sorry for
them."



NO! the best con in history is when 5 billionaire press barons can manipulate our democracy and continually get away with it.

How exactly do you think you've been manipulated Ray ?

Barney its not about insignificant me, but read this if you want some food for thought

https://tribunemag.co.uk/2021/04/britai ... -democracy

[Slapstick]

Well given that he served for 10 years in the army including two tours of Afghanistan and is prepared to take on the press barons rather than being bought off as allegedly his brother was. I don’t think the comments of a few keyboard warriors will upset him

"Allegedly" says it all.

Just like Harry's alledged claims against the press, this judgement is not proof but only based on probability.

He's claiming victory, but of his 33 claims he was successful on only 15, so that suggests the Mirror group were successful on the other 18?

He's nothing more than a royal sponger, who despite all his grievances continues to use his title as a money earner.

[Mervyn and Trish]

Spot on. His sycophants missed the point that he lost more counts than he won. And while I despise phone hacking etc to intrude on his privacy how does giving an interview to Oprah, writing a book, and producing a Netflix series to intrude on his family's privacy and spread some dubious stories, some proven as lies, about his family compare? Pot, kettle, very black I'd say. (Sorry Me-Me that's not being racist, it's an old British saying).

[Mervyn and Trish]

I would add no-one has proved any of the stories about Harry were untrue. Just that they were obtained by dodgy means, including hacking his phone. Which, since he is therefore inadvertently
the source, actually means the stories themselves are very likely true.

[barney]

"It’s got to be one of the best cons in history, when an over privileged couple can convince ordinary hardworking people to actually feel sorry for
them."



NO! the best con in history is when 5 billionaire press barons can manipulate our democracy and continually get away with it.

How exactly do you think you've been manipulated Ray ?

Barney its not about insignificant me, but read this if you want some food for thought

https://tribunemag.co.uk/2021/04/britai ... -democracy

Well, you may feel that you’ve been manipulated by the press but I certainly don’t.
I read the Guardian and Observer and know exactly what their editorial bias is.
It’s left wing which is exactly why I read it.
It’s called confirmation bias.

[Onelife]

Well given that he served for 10 years in the army including two tours of Afghanistan and is prepared to take on the press barons rather than being bought off as allegedly his brother was. I don’t think the comments of a few keyboard warriors will upset him

"Allegedly" says it all.

Just like Harry's alledged claims against the press, this judgement is not proof but only based on probability.

He's claiming victory, but of his 33 claims he was successful on only 15, so that suggests the Mirror group were successful on the other 18?

He's nothing more than a royal sponger, who despite all his grievances continues to use his title as a money earner.

Unfurtunatly “allegedly” is as close as you will ever get to the Royal Freeloading Monarchy…as witnessed on many occasions…whether it be tax evasion, money for titles or the odd infidelity claim….Yes’ slapstick, based on probability they “The working Royals” are allowed to get away with the biggest cons in history.

[Onelife]

How exactly do you think you've been manipulated Ray ?

Barney its not about insignificant me, but read this if you want some food for thought

https://tribunemag.co.uk/2021/04/britai ... -democracy

Well, you may feel that you’ve been manipulated by the press but I certainly don’t.
I read the Guardian and Observer and know exactly what their editorial bias is.
It’s left wing which is exactly why I read it.
It’s called confirmation bias.

Manipulation? … aren’t we all manipulated to some degree? We are all bombarded with stories that form the basis of our opinions… whether they surface from the Guardian, Observer or any other of the main stream paper?

Isn’t conformation bias a condition attributed to shortsightedness?

[Slapstick]

Well given that he served for 10 years in the army including two tours of Afghanistan and is prepared to take on the press barons rather than being bought off as allegedly his brother was. I don’t think the comments of a few keyboard warriors will upset him

"Allegedly" says it all.

Just like Harry's alledged claims against the press, this judgement is not proof but only based on probability.

He's claiming victory, but of his 33 claims he was successful on only 15, so that suggests the Mirror group were successful on the other 18?

He's nothing more than a royal sponger, who despite all his grievances continues to use his title as a money earner.

Unfurtunatly “allegedly” is as close as you will ever get to the Royal Freeloading Monarchy…as witnessed on many occasions…whether it be tax evasion, money for titles or the odd infidelity claim….Yes’ slapstick, based on probability they “The working Royals” are allowed to get away with the biggest cons in history.

And the difference between Harry and the Monarchy is?

Harry and her uses the press when it suits, mostly to promote themselves for personal gain, when they go against them the toys come out the pram, they can't have it both ways but they seem to think they can.

If they really want nothing to do with the royal family fair enough, relinquish their royal titles and cut all ties simple, but we all know they won't do that.

The Monarchy are the complete opposite.

[Ray Scully]

Whose side are the Gammons on


Analysing the impact of the media on politics in the UK is crucial. Understanding the role of the press in shaping public opinion and political discourse is essential for a well-informed citizenry.

[towny44]

"It’s got to be one of the best cons in history, when an over privileged couple can convince ordinary hardworking people to actually feel sorry for
them."



NO! the best con in history is when 5 billionaire press barons can manipulate our democracy and continually get away with it.

How exactly do you think you've been manipulated Ray ?

Barney its not about insignificant me, but read this if you want some food for thought

https://tribunemag.co.uk/2021/04/britai ... -democracy

You would hardly expect a socialist publication that detests the mainstream media to be on their side in this dispute. But if you enjoy a onesided diatribe, then I guess you would see some comfort in this website.