Truth and Accountability

[david63]

I would add no-one has proved any of the stories about Harry were untrue. Just that they were obtained by dodgy means, including hacking his phone. Which, since he is therefore inadvertently the source, actually means the stories themselves are very likely true.

That, I believe, is the crucial point in all of this and is being totally overlooked by the Harry sympathisers.

[Onelife]

I would add no-one has proved any of the stories about Harry were untrue. Just that they were obtained by dodgy means, including hacking his phone. Which, since he is therefore inadvertently the source, actually means the stories themselves are very likely true.

That, I believe, is the crucial point in all of this and is being totally overlooked by the Harry sympathisers.

I am in no doubt some of the published stories have elements of truth in them but most, as you say, were obtained through unscrupulous journalistic practices. It is for this reason Harry intends to pursue further news groups through the civil courts, and one would hope be present to see criminal charges brought against those who have delved into people’s personal lives by hacking their phones.
The gutter press manufacture stories which in many cases are the journalists/editor’s interpretation of what they want to hear not what was said. It matters not how the victims’ conversations flowed as it was their own personal buissness and should have not found its way into any avenue of the media stream without consent.

To try and create mitigating circumstances for what has gone on, is in my opinion, a measure of how media stories has affected people’s perception of what is right or wrong.

[towny44]

I would add no-one has proved any of the stories about Harry were untrue. Just that they were obtained by dodgy means, including hacking his phone. Which, since he is therefore inadvertently the source, actually means the stories themselves are very likely true.

That, I believe, is the crucial point in all of this and is being totally overlooked by the Harry sympathisers.

I am in no doubt some of the published stories have elements of truth in them but most, as you say, were obtained through unscrupulous journalistic practices. It is for this reason Harry intends to pursue further news groups through the civil courts, and one would hope be present to see criminal charges brought against those who have delved into people’s personal lives by hacking their phones.
The gutter press manufacture stories which in many cases are the journalists/editor’s interpretation of what they want to hear not what was said. It matters not how the victims’ conversations flowed as it was their own personal buissness and should have not found its way into any avenue of the media stream without consent.

To try and create mitigating circumstances for what has gone on, is in my opinion, a measure of how media stories has affected people’s perception of what is right or wrong.

Strange that he only seemed to complain about news stories that showed him in a poor light.

[Ray B]

Should have kept to the The Queen's 'never complain, never explain' motto.

[Slapstick]

That, I believe, is the crucial point in all of this and is being totally overlooked by the Harry sympathisers.

I am in no doubt some of the published stories have elements of truth in them but most, as you say, were obtained through unscrupulous journalistic practices. It is for this reason Harry intends to pursue further news groups through the civil courts, and one would hope be present to see criminal charges brought against those who have delved into people’s personal lives by hacking their phones.
The gutter press manufacture stories which in many cases are the journalists/editor’s interpretation of what they want to hear not what was said. It matters not how the victims’ conversations flowed as it was their own personal buissness and should have not found its way into any avenue of the media stream without consent.

To try and create mitigating circumstances for what has gone on, is in my opinion, a measure of how media stories has affected people’s perception of what is right or wrong.

Strange that he only seemed to complain about news stories that showed him in a poor light.

Exactly, and is more than happy to use the press when it suits, selling extracts from his books for example prior to their launch.

[Onelife]

I am in no doubt some of the published stories have elements of truth in them but most, as you say, were obtained through unscrupulous journalistic practices. It is for this reason Harry intends to pursue further news groups through the civil courts, and one would hope be present to see criminal charges brought against those who have delved into people’s personal lives by hacking their phones.
The gutter press manufacture stories which in many cases are the journalists/editor’s interpretation of what they want to hear not what was said. It matters not how the victims’ conversations flowed as it was their own personal buissness and should have not found its way into any avenue of the media stream without consent.

To try and create mitigating circumstances for what has gone on, is in my opinion, a measure of how media stories has affected people’s perception of what is right or wrong.

Strange that he only seemed to complain about news stories that showed him in a poor light.

Exactly, and is more than happy to use the press when it suits, selling extracts from his books for example prior to their launch.

Err!...name me a Royal that hasn’t used the press to their advantage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2udNi4mZ90U

[towny44]

Strange that he only seemed to complain about news stories that showed him in a poor light.

Exactly, and is more than happy to use the press when it suits, selling extracts from his books for example prior to their launch.

Err!...name me a Royal that hasn’t used the press to their advantage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2udNi4mZ90U

But how many have also sued the press?

[Onelife]

Exactly, and is more than happy to use the press when it suits, selling extracts from his books for example prior to their launch.

Err!...name me a Royal that hasn’t used the press to their advantage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2udNi4mZ90U

But how many have also sued the press?

Come on John, you know how it works…They don’t sue the press they threaten them saying “you’ll get no more leaked stories about Harry and Meghan if you don’t pull the plug on that one.

It’s what they do, what they really do.

[oldbluefox]

.....or written books trashing their own family.

[Slapstick]

Strange that he only seemed to complain about news stories that showed him in a poor light.

Exactly, and is more than happy to use the press when it suits, selling extracts from his books for example prior to their launch.

Err!...name me a Royal that hasn’t used the press to their advantage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2udNi4mZ90U

No one is denying they all take advantage of the press, the difference being none of the others to my knowledge have subsequently sued them when they print something they don't like.

Harry and her can't have it both ways.

They don't want anything to do with the UK but they want FREE security when they visit, they moaned because they had their royal residence taken away even though they don't want to live here, they made wild claims the royals are racists yet provided no evidence, they've made millions from the sale of books, Netflix and the like slating the family but claim none of it's their fault, the list is endless.

And despite all this exaggerated mud slinging, the royal family have reacted impeccably by not taking the bait, I sometimes wish they had.

Cried wolf to many times now I'm afraid and it's only a matter of time before he tries to come back with his tail between his legs, most likely minus her as this marriage won't last.

[Mervyn and Trish]

Err!...name me a Royal that hasn’t used the press to their advantage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2udNi4mZ90U

But how many have also sued the press?

Come on John, you know how it works…They don’t sue the press they threaten them saying “you’ll get no more leaked stories about Harry and Meghan if you don’t pull the plug on that one.

It’s what they do, what they really do.

Hmmm. I didn't think the stories were leaked. I thought they were obtained through illegal phone hacking. Well at least that's what Harry says.

[Onelife]

Exactly, and is more than happy to use the press when it suits, selling extracts from his books for example prior to their launch.

Err!...name me a Royal that hasn’t used the press to their advantage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2udNi4mZ90U

No one is denying they all take advantage of the press, the difference being none of the others to my knowledge have subsequently sued them when they print something they don't like.

Harry and her can't have it both ways.

They don't want anything to do with the UK but they want FREE security when they visit, they moaned because they had their royal residence taken away even though they don't want to live here, they made wild claims the royals are racists yet provided no evidence, they've made millions from the sale of books, Netflix and the like slating the family but claim none of it's their fault, the list is endless.

And despite all this exaggerated mud slinging, the royal family have reacted impeccably by not taking the bait, I sometimes wish they had.

Cried wolf to many times now I'm afraid and it's only a matter of time before he tries to come back with his tail between his legs, most likely minus her as this marriage won't last.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19599899

[Onelife]

But how many have also sued the press?

Come on John, you know how it works…They don’t sue the press they threaten them saying “you’ll get no more leaked stories about Harry and Meghan if you don’t pull the plug on that one.

It’s what they do, what they really do.

Hmmm. I didn't think the stories were leaked. I thought they were obtained through illegal phone hacking. Well at least that's what Harry says.

I was referring to the leaked story about Meghan kicking the Corgis to within an each of their lives…don't you just love her?

[Onelife]

.....or written books trashing their own family.

Keep this up Foxy and you won't be getting a Christmas card this year

[Frank Manning]

I hope for Harry's sake that King Charles has a long life, because I get the impression that when Prince William becomes King, he wont faff about with them, and whatever stories they tittle tattle, will just dig themselves further into the brown smelly stuff. Its just a pity that Channel 5 is trotting out docutrash with innuendo and opinion by various hangers on.

[Meg 50]

Plenty of room in the Tower - though not many en suite...

[oldbluefox]

Plenty of room in the Tower - though not many en suite...

And he would be guarded 24 hours a day. What's not to like?

[Onelife]

I hope for Harry's sake that King Charles has a long life, because I get the impression that when Prince William becomes King, he wont faff about with them, and whatever stories they tittle tattle, will just dig themselves further into the brown smelly stuff. Its just a pity that Channel 5 is trotting out docutrash with innuendo and opinion by various hangers on.

You will no doubt be devastated when you find out what William is really like…all credit to Catherine for putting duty before happiness…

[barney]

I hope for Harry's sake that King Charles has a long life, because I get the impression that when Prince William becomes King, he wont faff about with them, and whatever stories they tittle tattle, will just dig themselves further into the brown smelly stuff. Its just a pity that Channel 5 is trotting out docutrash with innuendo and opinion by various hangers on.

You will no doubt be devastated when you find out what William is really like…all credit to Catherine for putting duty before happiness…

Go on, tell us what he’s really like.
I’d like to know what he’s really like.
Caveat- with evidence please, not some random tittle tattle from a wannabe or disenfranchised ex staff.
C’mon
Tell all

[Onelife]

I’ll tell you what he’s like, what he’s really, really like if you can tell me what Harry and Meghan are really like without all the hype most of you derive from the Royal protection squad which has contrived to protect themselves rather than allow the truth to surface about how the Machine treated Meghan….and of course our true Queen of Hearts, Diana.

[oldbluefox]

And they're off.....clip clop, clip clop......................and it's Harry's Anger on the rails leading by a head from Winfrey's Whaaat! and wait for it, Yankee Doodle Dandy is a refusal at the first fence. Well, well, well we won't be seeing her again any time soon.............. Meanwhile we have a blinkered runner coming through strongly, I think it's Ludlow Republican but he's tripped over his own reins..............Well I've never seen anything like this....more clip clops............And the winner is Monarch's Wisdom the hot favourite which wins by a mile, followed by Edinburgh Duke and Sassy Kate.

Merry Christmas everyone.

[barney]

I’ll tell you what he’s like, what he’s really, really like if you can tell me what Harry and Meghan are really like without all the hype most of you derive from the Royal protection squad which has contrived to protect themselves rather than allow the truth to surface about how the Machine treated Meghan….and of course our true Queen of Hearts, Diana.

I’ll be honest mate.
I don’t give a bucket of monkeys piddle about what Harry and his missus are really like.
The way I see it as that they had a decent job
They quit the decent job
They still expect the perks associated with that decent job
If they rode off into the Californian sunset and we never heard their names again, that would be just fine and dandy with me.

[Onelife]

And they're off.....clip clop, clip clop......................and it's Harry's Anger on the rails leading by a head from Winfrey's Whaaat! and wait for it, Yankee Doodle Dandy is a refusal at the first fence. Well, well, well we won't be seeing her again any time soon.............. Meanwhile we have a blinkered runner coming through strongly, I think it's Ludlow Republican but he's tripped over his own reins..............Well I've never seen anything like this....more clip clops............And the winner is Monarch's Wisdom the hot favourite which wins by a mile, followed by Edinburgh Duke and Sassy Kate.

Merry Christmas everyone.

With commentary like that you were in the wrong profession foxy

…but wait, just when you thought Monarch Wisdom was over the line Ludlow Republican lodges an objection. With his never beaten attitude Ludlow Republic presents his reins to the stewards who could see they had been tampered with, this led to a lengthy inquiry and on closer inspection it was found that Yankee Doodle’s steering problem/ refusal was due to Camila’s Affair which crossed in front of Yankee Doodle neighing “make way I’m the Queen, you’re only the show girl” this confused Yankee Doodle, but not his jockey Harrys Anger who had seen it all before.

This left Edinburgh Duke proclaiming “It’s a knockout” to which Sassy Kate replied...” now let’s play fair Duke” best not follow the example of your sire.

The moral of this story is that you don’t have to cross the line first to come out on top.

Revised placings…
1st…Harry’s Anger
2nd Yankee Doodle
3rd Ludlow Republican

Disq…Monarch’s Wisdom… the stewards found that it was an inside job with the sole intention to knobble any runner that threatens the firm.

[oldbluefox]

You even think/fantasise like Harry, but glad you enjoyed it.

That said I agree entirely with barney. If Harry rode off into the sunset never to be seen or heard of again it would not be too soon. I thought that was what he wanted but he has never stopped courting attention.
Strange behaviour.

[Slapstick]

I’ll tell you what he’s like, what he’s really, really like if you can tell me what Harry and Meghan are really like without all the hype most of you derive from the Royal protection squad which has contrived to protect themselves rather than allow the truth to surface about how the Machine treated Meghan….and of course our true Queen of Hearts, Diana.

"If you can tell me what Harry and Meghan are really like without all the hype"

Seriously, read the books, watch the documentaries that's what they are really like, the only hype created was of their own.

If they really want away from the UK then so be it, as long as that meant losing their royal titles, but they wont do that will they and we all know why.