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So 55% were in favour and 45% either against or not committed one way or the other. It would have been a more helpful poll to have split these two groups but I think it suits the Republicans to claim the non-committeds as their own.
Of course, as usual, it depends what the questions were.
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Slapstick wrote: 12 Feb 2024, 17:05
Onelife wrote: 12 Feb 2024, 12:25
I neither love or hate Morgan but would I trust him to tell the truth? Absolutely not.

I think it’s a bit rich of Morgan asking Harry to produce evidence when he himself shyed away from giving evidence at Prince Harrys recent victory against the Mirror group… of which Morgan was editor at that time.

For further reading you may wish to read Ms Kerr recollections (she worked for the Daily Mirror's royal team) about her boss when giving evidence.

With regard to Harry’s accusations against certain members of his family one can only guess as to how true or not they may be but my personal opinion is that much of what he has claimed is true…. whilst accepting that there are inevitably two sides to any story, one which Harry has told and one where the truth remains a “never complain, never explain Royal prerogative.

Many, I guess share your opinion about Meghan, she is undoubtably a strong personality in the relationship but that goes for most relationships, mine being one of them… Squeak! Squeak!

What is also undeniable is that she outshines most, if not all of the Royals when it comes to intellectual conversation/public speaking and if truth be known it is one of the factors as to why the “fab” four became two (I am of course referring to Harry and Meghan, although I do like Kate)

The other part as to why the four became two in my opinion is jealousy…do you remember how popular Harry and Meghan were with the public? There was speculation that they were becoming more popular than Willie and Kate which as we now know isn’t something the firm or Willie would have taken kindly to. You are correct about Harry and Kate being very close, however I’m not so sure Kate and Meghan ever really hit it off…perhaps one of them felt intimidated by the other?

I won’t give reasons now but I feel really sorry for Kate as I see a real sadness behind her smiles.


Slapstick, as yet you seem to be open to differing opinions so it is with this in mind I will try and explain to you why I have such distain for our monarchy system.

I haven’t always been a republican, indeed there was a time when I along with most of the UK just accepted that the monarchy was part of the very thing that made Great Britain Great.

How wrong I was…

I think I started questioning my attitudes toward the monarchy at about the time of Princess Diana's death…and as time has passed, I feel very strongly that our hereditary Monarchy has no place in what is now a different time and place.

We now live in a multicultural society where we have a myriad of different cultures beliefs and attitudes most of which accept the monarchy but show no allegiance to it…. this isn’t sustainable in the long term, especially so if we have any chance of coming together as a country.

The Monarchy represents many things that a clear-thinking person would recognise, the Monarchy is steeped in sexism which reflets a reluctance to move with the times…just take Princess Ann for instance, how can it be that she falls behind Andrew and Edward in the line of succession…so much for women equal rights?

How can it be right that the king’s coronation cost close to one hundred million while we have people living on handouts.
While other countries have kings and Queens, they don’t splash out on extravagant pantomimes to show how great they are…the money should have been spent on supporting the country in its time of need.

I can think of many aspects of the Monarchy that are not fit for purpose so my only hope is that when my generation of old codgers are pushing up daises the younger generations will question the relevance of having a Monarchy.

Gawd save our country.
Hi Onelife.

I appreciate all your comments and it's refreshing that we can have a differing opinions without having to resort to personal insults as some forum do.

Without trawling over what's already been said, you mention Diana and in many ways her and Meghan are similar, both I believe were caught in the headlights of what royal title brought them, unfortunately the reality means you have no or very little privacy, Diana not so much at the time, but Meghan without doubt certainly knew what it would be like but was happy to continue and has reaped its rewards before scurrying off back to the states with Harry in tow.

What I did dislike about Charles and Diana's marriage and agree with you to some extent about the Monarchy is that I considered to be a forced marriage, in the defence of Charles I don't think it was a marriage of his choice, he always wanted Camilla, but the Queen wouldn't allow it and the Spencer's went along with it knowing what the additional status the family would get.

Harry has undoubtedly followed in his mother's footsteps by the use of the media, difference being Diana was to some extent tricked by her tell all interview and didn't sell it like Harry.
Hi Slapstick, thank you for your response, having red through you thoughts/opinions a couple of times I respond thus…

I can see the similarities between Diana and Meghan who both entered the lion’s den without really understanding how the Royal machine works, in that sence I have more sympathy for Diana who was a young naive 16-year-old girl when she unfortunately bumped into Charles, the rest is history as to how she became a brood mare in order to provide heirs to the Royal line.

The fact that Charlie was involved with another women at the time and during his marriage is in my opinion unforgivable. I can therefore fully understand why she turned to the press for what she thought would give her side of what she must have hoped would be a happy marriage…the fact that she sought love in the arms of others is perhaps (I hope) where she found some resemblance of happiness. Wake up Foxy I’ve only got a bit to go. :lol:

In defence of Meghan, I think it was almost impossible for her to have really understood the ridged protocols that go along with being part of the firm, especially so considering her work for women’s rights believing a women should stand alongside her man not behind him.

Thankfully Meghan and Harry along with Archie and Lilibet appear to be blissfully happy together :thumbup: :D
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I personally think Meghan is nothing more than a coercive, controlling, nasty, fame hungry individual, she has him right where she wants him away from his family and effectively totally isolated, hopefully Harry will in time find out for himself.

She may well be an advocate for women's rights, but she really needs to take a good hard look at herself and how she treats him and her own family before judging others.
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Slapstick wrote: 12 Feb 2024, 19:19
I personally think Meghan is nothing more than a coercive, controlling, nasty, fame hungry individual, she has him right where she wants him away from his family and effectively totally isolated, hopefully Harry will in time find out for himself.

She may well be an advocate for women's rights, but she really needs to take a good hard look at herself and how she treats him and her own family before judging others.
Most actresses do possess some of the traits you have mentioned but I think nasty and controlling are a bit strong without actually having known her.

With regard to her own family both her father and half sister have been proven to tell lies about her.

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Onelife wrote: 12 Feb 2024, 19:34
Slapstick wrote: 12 Feb 2024, 19:19
I personally think Meghan is nothing more than a coercive, controlling, nasty, fame hungry individual, she has him right where she wants him away from his family and effectively totally isolated, hopefully Harry will in time find out for himself.

She may well be an advocate for women's rights, but she really needs to take a good hard look at herself and how she treats him and her own family before judging others.
Most actresses do possess some of the traits you have mentioned but I think nasty and controlling are a bit strong without actually having known her.

With regard to her own family both her father and half sister have been proven to tell lies about her.
I don't believe you have met Meghan either, so how can you know she is not nasty and controlling?
While you may believe that her father and sister told lies, I imagine many will feel that there is no smoke without fire, and consider there may be more than a flicker of truth in their allegations.
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I didn’t dispute whether or not she was controlling or nasty, I just said those descriptions of her were a bit strong.
It is well documented that both father and half sister told lies, but as you say, there could be some smoke-filled forgetfulness on both sides…. I suppose the same could be said about Harry vs those mentioned in his “Spare” publication.

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Harry blissfully happy? You're joking. I haven't seen him looking happy in a long time. He's been forced to choose between his wife and his family and I suspect now realises he's put all his eggs in the wrong basket.

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Mervyn and Trish wrote: 12 Feb 2024, 22:14
Harry blissfully happy? You're joking. I haven't seen him looking happy in a long time. He's been forced to choose between his wife and his family and I suspect now realises he's put all his eggs in the wrong basket.
Talking about eggs, Betty and Doris are being very good girls at the moment…two eggs a day :thumbup: :D

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towny44 wrote: 12 Feb 2024, 20:19
Onelife wrote: 12 Feb 2024, 19:34
Slapstick wrote: 12 Feb 2024, 19:19
I personally think Meghan is nothing more than a coercive, controlling, nasty, fame hungry individual, she has him right where she wants him away from his family and effectively totally isolated, hopefully Harry will in time find out for himself.

She may well be an advocate for women's rights, but she really needs to take a good hard look at herself and how she treats him and her own family before judging others.
Most actresses do possess some of the traits you have mentioned but I think nasty and controlling are a bit strong without actually having known her.

With regard to her own family both her father and half sister have been proven to tell lies about her.
I don't believe you have met Meghan either, so how can you know she is not nasty and controlling?
While you may believe that her father and sister told lies, I imagine many will feel that there is no smoke without fire, and consider there may be more than a flicker of truth in their allegations.
I don't need to know her Onelife, it's very evident that she controls him.

Harry, prior to meeting her appeared to be a happy go lucky chap, since then he's totally changed.

Now he's looks broken and sad and far from blissfully happy, it's a copy book case on how coercive and controlling behaviour works, gradually picking away until the victim has no control.

Obviously our perceptions are completely different, time will tell.
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Keith’s (Onelife) book signing is this Friday 10am outside Windsor castle. All proceeds to…… :)

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......his rehabilitation :lol:
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Too far gone for that. :)

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Slapstick wrote: 13 Feb 2024, 00:21
towny44 wrote: 12 Feb 2024, 20:19
Onelife wrote: 12 Feb 2024, 19:34


Most actresses do possess some of the traits you have mentioned but I think nasty and controlling are a bit strong without actually having known her.

With regard to her own family both her father and half sister have been proven to tell lies about her.
I don't believe you have met Meghan either, so how can you know she is not nasty and controlling?
While you may believe that her father and sister told lies, I imagine many will feel that there is no smoke without fire, and consider there may be more than a flicker of truth in their allegations.
I don't need to know her Onelife, it's very evident that she controls him.

Harry, prior to meeting her appeared to be a happy go lucky chap, since then he's totally changed.

Now he's looks broken and sad and far from blissfully happy, it's a copy book case on how coercive and controlling behaviour works, gradually picking away until the victim has no control.

Obviously our perceptions are completely different, time will tell.
We will indeed have to wait and see Slapstick, there are some on here who were only giving the marriage two years a few years back.

I can see where you are coming from with regard to Harry’s appearance, but when I think about what he has been going through successfully defending his claims against some of the media I can understand how it brings a person down. I remember, when I along with a few others defended a case against having an animal incinerator next to our children’s school…at times it left me drained and looking dreadful due to the stress it was causing, thankfully after five years we eventually won our case and it was after this time that my charming dashing good looks started to reappear again :) so yes, I can understand why you have drawn the conclusions you have about his recent appearances.
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Stephen wrote: 13 Feb 2024, 07:48
Keith’s (Onelife) book signing is this Friday 10am outside Windsor castle. All proceeds to…… :)
…onelifes cruise appeal….and just for those who don’t know the title of what I hope will be a bestseller, it’s called…

“Don’t believe all you read in the papers”

Thanks for the plug :thumbup: :D :lol:

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I thought the title was “The Monarchy and Me” :)

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If his court battles with the media are the reason for Harry's glum looks he didn't have to do it. She he chose that route. She He They could have retired from the public eye as they claimed they were going to do. Meghan No-one forced him onto his media crusade, nor his atracks on his family that have left him in such an emotional desert.

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Mervyn and Trish wrote: 13 Feb 2024, 10:54
If his court battles with the media are the reason for Harry's glum looks he didn't have to do it. She he chose that route. She He They could have retired from the public eye as they claimed they were going to do. Meghan No-one forced him onto his media crusade, nor his atracks on his family that have left him in such an emotional desert.
Sir Merv, if someone writes on a public forum that you are “unbelievably ignorant” then you have two choices, you either accept it as being true or you defend the accusation…In Prince Harry's circumstances he decided to do what I did and defend himself.
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Onelife wrote: 13 Feb 2024, 11:13

Sir Merv, if someone writes on a public forum that you are “unbelievably ignorant” then you have two choices, you either accept it as being true or you defend the accusation…In Prince Harry's circumstances he decided to do what I did and defend himself.
There is always a third option - treat the remark and the person who made it with the contempt they deserve and ignore it

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oldbluefox wrote: 13 Feb 2024, 09:28
......his rehabilitation :lol:
Hi Foxy, thanks for your concern, and just to show you how my recuperation is improving my invitation to you and your wife to visit onelife’s lovely Shropshire laird remains open. :thumbup: :) :wave:

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Go for it Foxy. His dogs are hungry....

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Chalgrave4 wrote: 13 Feb 2024, 11:36
Onelife wrote: 13 Feb 2024, 11:13

Sir Merv, if someone writes on a public forum that you are “unbelievably ignorant” then you have two choices, you either accept it as being true or you defend the accusation…In Prince Harry's circumstances he decided to do what I did and defend himself.
There is always a third option - treat the remark and the person who made it with the contempt they deserve and ignore it
Hi Chalgrave, I could have taken your sound advice but with most forum debates me and Sir Merv are the best of mates, therefore on this occasion I'm willing to forgive him...If the truth be known Foxy will have put him up to it. :)

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Dear OL, yes, you and I agree on much. Your delusions about the Royal Family are a rare exception. And if my presumption of ignorance upset you I humbly apologise and accept your kind forgiveness.

My intention was to give you the benefit of the doubt. You write so much cobblers about the life of the Royals I attributed it to ignorance of the reality of the tedium of their lives, rather than any malice on your part, which would be so unlike your normal gentlemanly character as to be inconceivable.

I suspect that little minx Meghan has cast a spell over you just as she fooled Harry, who I thought was lovely before recent events. Like many other "celebs" I had taken no notice of the press reports on him until he started highlighting them.

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Mervyn and Trish wrote: 13 Feb 2024, 12:17
Dear OL, yes, you and I agree on much. Your delusions about the Royal Family are a rare exception. And if my presumption of ignorance upset you I humbly apologise and accept your kind forgiveness.

My intention was to give you the benefit of the doubt. You write so much cobblers about the life of the Royals I attributed it to ignorance of the reality of the tedium of their lives, rather than any malice on your part, which would be so unlike your normal gentlemanly character as to be inconceivable.

I suspect that little minx Meghan has cast a spell over you just as she fooled Harry, who I thought was lovely before recent events. Like many other "celebs" I had taken no notice of the press reports on him until he started highlighting them.
I'm taking Chargraves advice :thumbup: :lol:

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Good choice 🙂

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Mervyn and Trish wrote: 13 Feb 2024, 12:04
Go for it Foxy. His dogs are hungry....
You clearly haven’t as yet experienced Shropshire hospitality Sir Merv; Whilst I would charge Foxy for his lunch, I wouldn’t dream of charging him to feed my dog as well. :)

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