Horizon Scandal

[Onelife]

In light of the newly obtained audio recordings proving Paula Vennells was aware of the problems with the Horizon system would it be a miscarriage of justice, if she, along with others who were party to this cover up don’t receive the same punishment that they perused in sending innocent post masters/mistresses to prison?

https://www.itv.com/news/2024-03-28/sec ... n-software

[Mervyn and Trish]

It certainly would. She and others should be referred to CPS for perjury, perversion of the course of justice, fraud, false imprisonment, corporate manslaugher and anything else they can think of. They should go into the care of Screwy's former colleagues for a very long time.

[david63]

In this case I'm of the "eye for an eye" persuasion - all those who have done wrong in the Post Office management should go to jail for a long time, have their homes repossessed, have their families' live destroyed and pay back the millions that they were paid by the Post Office whilst they were defrauding the public.

No sympathy whatsoever for any of them.

[allatc]

I agree with all of the above.
Perhaps to add weekly floggings ?

[Onelife]

I hear the word compensation splashed about whenever this disgraceful event is mentioned but how can you possibly compensate those affected when for many years their lives have been plagued with the stigma of being called a liar.

There must not be any loop-holes which allows those responsible to escape the punishment they deserve.

[oldbluefox]

And I presume someone at Horizon was altering the figures. They should be first before the firing squad.

[Stephen]

Paula Vennells, a horrible nasty looking woman.

As others have said, sling her and her cronies in jail and throw the key away.

[Mervyn and Trish]

I agree with all of the above.
Perhaps to add weekly floggings ?

Too lenient. Daily....

[oldbluefox]

Paula Vennells, a horrible nasty looking woman.

If that's the criteria can we include MeAgain as well..................asking for a friend

[Onelife]

Paula Vennells, a horrible nasty looking woman.

If that's the criteria can we include MeAgain as well..................asking for a friend

You've just lost one

[Stephen]

You’ve done it now Foxy.

I’d keep an eye out for dog sh*t through your letter box from you know who

[oldbluefox]

My friend set me up....honestly

[Onelife]

Just be careful when opening your mail…present from a friend

[oldbluefox]

Just be careful when opening your mail…present from a friend

Keefy chocolates?

[Ranchi]

Would it not have been simpler to own up and pay each sub postmaster 50x their current compensation level and call it a day. It would also have been cheaper… oh hang on, those barristers and other legal bods will doubtless be paying 40% tax thus cutting off a lucrative cash stream to HM exchequer.
On a serious note, it seems disgusting that fat cats of industry can behave in such an appalling way and get away with it- many with pensions intact and dividend bonuses squirrelled away out of reach. Whether water companies, PPE or post office the way to behave seems to he claim ignorance, lie, deflect and hope to retire or move on before the Public Inquiry kicks in.

[Ranchi]

My wife just asked ‘What are you up to?’ I said ‘I am on a cruise site writing about the Horizon scandal.’’Oh are they stopping the daily newsletter on P&O or is it going online?’

[oldbluefox]

Would it not have been simpler to own up and pay each sub postmaster 50x their current compensation level and call it a day. It would also have been cheaper… oh hang on, those barristers and other legal bods will doubtless be paying 40% tax thus cutting off a lucrative cash stream to HM exchequer.
On a serious note, it seems disgusting that fat cats of industry can behave in such an appalling way and get away with it- many with pensions intact and dividend bonuses squirrelled away out of reach. Whether water companies, PPE or post office the way to behave seems to he claim ignorance, lie, deflect and hope to retire or move on before the Public Inquiry kicks in.

I had similar dealings with Royal Mail but obviously not on the same scale.
In short I took a package containing an expensive item to my local delivery office for posting. They scanned the code on my phone, attached the delivery label and sent it on its way. They didn't give me proof of posting and I later found the tracking was not working. Cutting a long story short they lost it!!! It had been scanned but somehow the wrong address had been applied.
Trying to get any joy out of RM was well nigh impossible. Without proof of posting and no evidence of tracking they would not entertain any idea they had lost it and would not compensate. Basically they held all the cards. I was fortunate that the address they sent it to returned it to me since I had put a covering letter with my address inside otherwise I would have lost it with no redress from RM.
My lesson now is if posting with RM insist on a proof of posting. RM inefficiency nearly cost me a lot of money. Better still use a different company.

[david63]

So today is the first of three days when we hear from Paula Vennells. So far all she has come out with is apology after apology and "I could have worded it better" - she was CEO of a major organisation being paid £millions and she cannot word things in a proper way is beyond mu understanding - not sure I would want to hear one of her sermons if that is anything to go by.

There is a distinct pattern here with the senior executives and, in my view, is bordering on being economical with the facts.

[Stephen]

They’re all apologetic after the event hoping to wriggle out of going to jail.

Apologies mean nothing to me. Lock her up and throw the key away.

[Mervyn and Trish]

Today should be entertaining, in a rather dark and grim way. To my mind this woman was, at the very least, grossly incompetent and negligent and should, in that case, hand back every penny in salary and bonus she ever received, even if she is forced into bankruptcy and selling her home. After all that's what happened to some of her "victims". On the other hand her actions were criminal - perjury among the potential charges - and she should go to prison. Sorry isn't enough.

[Ray B]

No good bringing on the tears as she is questioned, there's more tears been shed by the postmasters and postmistress that she hurt.
Will she be strong enough to last the three days of question or will she crumble. There will be no sympathy for her at all.

[Mervyn and Trish]

Crocodile tears. Great acting. Maybe she'll get a BAFTA? Playing the "I knew nothing" victim card.

I hope the lawyers at the inquiry are as vicious with her as her investigators were with the innocent postmasters.

She needs to go to jail.

[Onelife]

The BBC (last night) highlighted new evidence which makes her and her trusted colleagues look like crooks of the highest order.

If Vennell’s doesn’t get a considerable prison sentence, when found guilty, then what faith can anyone have in our judicial system?

[Stephen]

The BBC (last night) highlighted new evidence which makes her and her trusted colleagues look like crooks of the highest order.

If Vennell’s doesn’t get a considerable prison sentence, when found guilty, then what faith can anyone have in our judicial system?

And her cronies

[david63]

I just love the way that barristers have with words

"When you spoke to John Scott about this, did you say John, I’ve been in the organisation for five or six years, I didn’t know you had a team of 100 people that were investigating up and down the country sub-postmasters and sending them to prison. How come I didn’t know?” Beer asks.