Proposed Smoking and vape ban

[Ray B]

Who is in agreement with the gradually phasing out of the chance to smoke or vape.
Myself ,I am fully behind the ban, and yes ,I did smoke and gave up 45years ago.
While I do not agree that the government should dictate what we eat or do, on this subject I think it is the correct decision. This can only achieve better health and more money to an individual from when the ban starts.
Technically a child reaching 15 years of age should never have had a cigarette or a vape and so will not be affected apart from not now being able to purchase smoking materials.

[david63]

There is the danger that because you cannot then there is a greater temptation to do so.

There is no way that smoking will die out anytime soon - and when it does become illegal to buy tobacco products there will always be a black market with those running the black market making money out of it.

[Stephen]

Phasing/banning it is one thing, enforcing it is another.
Plod only ventures out if someone cries knife or gun so I don’t see them rushing to the scene because someone’s spotted a puffer. That’s assuming they get tasked with the job of enforcing it.

And yes, I do support the phasing out.

[towny44]

Who thought that the smoking in public places ban would work, but it has, possibly because everyone, even smokers, recognises that it is is a filthy habit, that not only damages health, but is a total waste of money.
So I think this new legislation just might be accepted by the vast majority, and naturally lead to a total cessation of smoking and hopefully vaping as well.

[Ray B]

Some of the vapes really stink and God knows what's inside them.

[Mervyn and Trish]

I'm all for it. Save the NHS a fortune and a lot of people much misery.

[david63]

I'm all for it. Save the NHS a fortune and a lot of people much misery.

The downside is though that taxation somewhere will have to go up to compensate for the loss in tobacco tax.

[Onelife]

I’m generally in favour of a phased ban of cigarettes/vapes but with the proviso that aged/long term smokers can still obtain their fix via a doctors’ prescription.

[towny44]

I'm all for it. Save the NHS a fortune and a lot of people much misery.

The downside is though that taxation somewhere will have to go up to compensate for the loss in tobacco tax.

No it won't because smoking currently costs the NHS billions, so the savings will more than make up for the shortfall.

[Mervyn and Trish]

I’m generally in favour of a phased ban of cigarettes/vapes but with the proviso that aged/long term smokers can still obtain their fix via a doctors’ prescription.

As I understand it, it won't affect those already legally smoking, but will progressively stop new smokers.

[Onelife]

I’m generally in favour of a phased ban of cigarettes/vapes but with the proviso that aged/long term smokers can still obtain their fix via a doctors’ prescription.

As I understand it, it won't affect those already legally smoking, but will progressively stop new smokers.

Thanks Sir Merv, not one to point fingers but my misunderstanding is Ray's fault for not posting the link?

[david63]

No it won't because smoking currently costs the NHS billions, so the savings will more than make up for the shortfall.

Whilst I would not argue with that I would expect that the savings made by the NHS would, or at least should, go to relieve some of the underfunding in the NHS.

[towny44]

No it won't because smoking currently costs the NHS billions, so the savings will more than make up for the shortfall.

Whilst I would not argue with that I would expect that the savings made by the NHS would, or at least should, go to relieve some of the underfunding in the NHS.

Trying to marry up taxation with public spending is alway rather pointless, once a new tax is established, or a potential saving instigated, then something else will end up on the top of the govts to do list, and a new saga begins.

[Ray B]

Onelife, you can't pin your misunderstanding on me. I only started the post to see what other members who were obviously upto date with the story thought.

[Stephen]

I’m generally in favour of a phased ban of cigarettes/vapes but with the proviso that aged/long term smokers can still obtain their fix via a doctors’ prescription.

As I understand it, it won't affect those already legally smoking, but will progressively stop new smokers.

Thanks Sir Merv, not one to point fingers but my misunderstanding is Ray's fault for not posting the link?

MPs back smoking ban for those born after 2009 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68824493