General Election 2024
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screwy
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Re: General Election 2024
Is Starmer going to change the weather for the better.? He says he’s going to change everything else.! 


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Stephen
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Re: General Election 2024
Well that’s my vote in the box.
I voted for the raving loonies……..but which one
I voted for the raving loonies……..but which one
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CaroleF
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Re: General Election 2024
With all the newspaper headlines telling us that it will be a Labour Landslide do we need to actually vote? Tongue is cheek question obviously but I wonder if the headlines have effect on any voters, on all sides. Do Labour voters think, Well it's obviously going to be a landslide so I won't bother? Do Tory voters think, Well it's a foregone conclusion so my vote won't make any difference? I wonder.
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Ray B
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Re: General Election 2024
Not for me it didn't, been and voted and like Onelife, will wait to see if my choice wins the race.
Don't worry, be happy
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oldbluefox
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Re: General Election 2024
I know who I won't be voting for so it's all a matter of elimination for the least worst.
Having only just paid off the last instalments of Blair's PFI 30 year legacy which brought our local hospitals to their knees I wonder what bright ideas Starmer will be coming up with.
Having only just paid off the last instalments of Blair's PFI 30 year legacy which brought our local hospitals to their knees I wonder what bright ideas Starmer will be coming up with.
I was taught to be cautious
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screwy
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Re: General Election 2024
Has anyone read ‘ Broken Vows ‘ written by Tom Bower. Tony Blair the tragedy of power.?
I bought it about 6 yrs ago but only just got round to reading it. If the next Labour government is anything like the last one God help us. I honestly couldn’t believe what I was reading.
I bought it about 6 yrs ago but only just got round to reading it. If the next Labour government is anything like the last one God help us. I honestly couldn’t believe what I was reading.
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Mervyn and Trish
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Re: General Election 2024
We cast our votes by post before we set off on our cruise. Nothing we've heard since would have changed my mind. And now the cruise is over. Boo hoo!
I think it's inevitable Rayner and her Deputy/Puppet Starmer, will be in charge by tomorrow. Only the majority is in doubt and that's the only thing our votes, either way, will affect.
It was depressing to hear a Sky commissioned survey yesterday which concluded that Labour will have a huge majority but that 51% of the same people surveyed thought Starmer will be a bad Prime Minister. Maybe OL is on to something after all, if only he can get over his crush on Meghan.
I think it's inevitable Rayner and her Deputy/Puppet Starmer, will be in charge by tomorrow. Only the majority is in doubt and that's the only thing our votes, either way, will affect.
It was depressing to hear a Sky commissioned survey yesterday which concluded that Labour will have a huge majority but that 51% of the same people surveyed thought Starmer will be a bad Prime Minister. Maybe OL is on to something after all, if only he can get over his crush on Meghan.
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Stephen
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Re: General Election 2024
They're a bit premature
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oldbluefox
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Re: General Election 2024
That's my vote cast. Go for something you trust where you know what you're getting!!! 
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I was taught to be cautious
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Mervyn and Trish
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Re: General Election 2024
I'm not prejudging the outcome of the election, but I did hear rumours the producers of Strictly Come Dancing have been in touch with Rishi......
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Onelife
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Re: General Election 2024
Decided not to vote…voting for the least worst isn’t a sensible choice for me.
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david63
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Re: General Election 2024
Whatever system you have that will always be the case.Onelife wrote: 04 Jul 2024, 18:54Decided not to vote…voting for the least worst isn’t a sensible choice for me.
Anyway as you have not voted I expect we will not be hearing anything political from you for the next five years
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Mervyn and Trish
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Re: General Election 2024
I don't think anyone who doesn't vote has any right to complain about the result. But I can already hear the wails now. The prediction is Labour will get a massive majority, with around a 39% share of the vote (incidentally 6% less than the Tories got last time!) Which means 61% who bothered to vote didn't choose them! Even worse when you count those who don't vote for any of them.
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MaureenB
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Re: General Election 2024
Hear hear. Anyone who does not exercise the hard fought by the common man right to vote should not pontificate on the the outcome of the GE....everdavid63 wrote: 04 Jul 2024, 18:57Whatever system you have that will always be the case.Onelife wrote: 04 Jul 2024, 18:54Decided not to vote…voting for the least worst isn’t a sensible choice for me.
Anyway as you have not voted I expect we will not be hearing anything political from you for the next five years![]()
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david63
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Re: General Election 2024
Based on the predicted exit poll, which has before now been wrong, it looks as if Labour could be forming the next government - no surprise really as the country was due a natural change anyway.
So any predictions as to how long it will be before we hear "We cannot do this, that and the other that we promised because we have now only just seen the books and we were not aware the perilous state of the economy so we have to fix that first - which means we have no other option but to raise taxation"
So any predictions as to how long it will be before we hear "We cannot do this, that and the other that we promised because we have now only just seen the books and we were not aware the perilous state of the economy so we have to fix that first - which means we have no other option but to raise taxation"
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towny44
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Re: General Election 2024
Well I guess Rishi will be busy packing up now, about the only positive I can see from the exit poll is that it looks like the SNP bubble has well and truly bursf, so Swinney is probably due for the chop.
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Onelife
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Re: General Election 2024
I wouldn’t count on that David, as always, I will be doing my bit to change this politically stagnated system.david63 wrote: 04 Jul 2024, 18:57Whatever system you have that will always be the case.Onelife wrote: 04 Jul 2024, 18:54Decided not to vote…voting for the least worst isn’t a sensible choice for me.
Anyway as you have not voted I expect we will not be hearing anything political from you for the next five years![]()
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Onelife
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Re: General Election 2024
Hi Maureen, both men and women sacrificed much for the right to vote, these sacrifices, as you say, should never be forgotten. How sad it is that more and more people are turning away from politics, especially those of the younger generations …why do you think this is? My guess is that years of lies, corruption, and political stagnation has drained their enthusiasm to a point where they no longer care who is in power anymore… who can blame them? You only have to read some of the posts on this forum to see that most have no idea where or why they want to cast their vote for a particular party…. if that isn’t a broken system then I don’t know what is.MaureenB wrote: 04 Jul 2024, 21:13Hear hear. Anyone who does not exercise the hard fought by the common man right to vote should not pontificate on the the outcome of the GE....everdavid63 wrote: 04 Jul 2024, 18:57Whatever system you have that will always be the case.Onelife wrote: 04 Jul 2024, 18:54Decided not to vote…voting for the least worst isn’t a sensible choice for me.
Anyway as you have not voted I expect we will not be hearing anything political from you for the next five years![]()
You have posted a very pointed opinion in my direction, which to be fair, I can see some justification in you doing so. My decision not to vote (First time I can remember) was based on my belief that no amount of voting is going to change the way our political system conducts itself; our political system is always destined to defeat its self because political parties always have to think short term policies to appease the short-term thinking of the electorate to stay in power. I decided today that I no longer want to be part of this voting system until the very foundations of our political system gets a massive overhaul…. or better still scraped altogether.
Whether you voted for your party of choice or voted tactically I hope you/we won’t be disappointed in the final result...again!!!
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Stephen
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Re: General Election 2024
Maldon is still Conservative while allot of surrounding areas went over to Labour. How did your constituency do.
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Mervyn and Trish
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Re: General Election 2024
Despite predictions of losing by more than 10% our Tory scraped home. She's not universally population but the candidates of the other parties were utterly dreadful. Moorlands Radio interviewed all of them and she was the only one with any clue about the constituency. The Labour bloke just recited paragraphs from the Manifesto. The LibDem was parachuted in from Somerset!
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Mervyn and Trish
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Re: General Election 2024
Nationally I'm sorry to see Penny defeated. She was my tip for next leader. I guess peerage or first available winnable by election.
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barney
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Re: General Election 2024
We’ve gone all Libdem 
My forecast trouncing of the most incompetent government in recent history proved to be spot on.
Shame for my local MP, who lives up the road from me.
She’s a decent person who has been tarnished by the self serving, corrupt maggots in Westminster.
Down the job centre next week I expect.
My forecast trouncing of the most incompetent government in recent history proved to be spot on.
Shame for my local MP, who lives up the road from me.
She’s a decent person who has been tarnished by the self serving, corrupt maggots in Westminster.
Down the job centre next week I expect.
Free and Accepted
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towny44
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Re: General Election 2024
As a tory, I suppose the only positive to take from last night is that the labour share of the vote hardly changed. The biggest factor was that the conservative vote just about halved, but was spread across the other parties, with the Lib Dems the biggest winner in terms of seats.
John
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david63
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Re: General Election 2024
Looking at the the gain/loss vote percentages then Labour did not win but Conservatives lost, mainly to Reform.
Anyway the good news is that Scottish independence is now off the table for the next 20 years. As requested the Scottish people have spoken.
How long before Farage starts bleating on about needing to change to PR?
Anyway the good news is that Scottish independence is now off the table for the next 20 years. As requested the Scottish people have spoken.
How long before Farage starts bleating on about needing to change to PR?
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allatc
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Re: General Election 2024
There we are then.
My predictions for the next 18 months :-
Tax rises :-
Fuel
VED (car tax) including electrics
wines and spirits
Inheritance tax
capital gains
savings interest
Strikes :-
Civil Service
Public service unions
rail unions
doctors
nurses
My predictions for the next 18 months :-
Tax rises :-
Fuel
VED (car tax) including electrics
wines and spirits
Inheritance tax
capital gains
savings interest
Strikes :-
Civil Service
Public service unions
rail unions
doctors
nurses