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Hi Alan

Personally I find the larger jet easier to fly.

Practice, practice and more practice, and keep checking out the learning centre within FSX. If there are any specific questions I can help with please ask and I will try and help.

A great forum where you can get help with all matters regarding flight simulation is http://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/forumdisplay.php?25-FSX

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Hi Stephen

Thanks for this.

Take-off is no problem but I do have difficulty in lining up with the runway for landing - I can't seem to hit the right glide path and I can't break the habit of flaring far too high, and thus I can't see the runway! I do manage to get down safely and not too heavily though!

As far as navigation is concerned, I've been through the FS4 tutorial many times and the instructor keeps cutting in to say I'm not doing it properly, but I don't see what I'm doing wrong! I'm very familiar with the ILS (as we used to call it in the old days), but it's how to get from one airfield to another that I'm stuck on. I'm ok flying from, say Filton to Bristol International, or Scampton to Waddington - I just take off, head out in the approximate direction and look around until I see the runway!

I've tried the Vulcan a couple of times but keep forgetting I'm going a tad faster than the little Cessna!!
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Alan

Just to confirm, you are using FS2004. Have you thought about upgrading to FSX, cheap to purchase on Amazon.

Do you use GPS to navigate your route.


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No - Alan, come on - do it for real ..... there really is nothing like it!

Have you flown underneath the Eiffel Tower yet - and what about landing on a carrier?

Meanwhile, we have had a good bit of fun with Captain of the Queens software - we initially sunk a warship in the Solent, and then later on we demolished part of QE2 terminal!

Em :D

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Hi Alan


To get lined up with the runway if flying manually is just a case of practise, but if using autopilot then one important item to have set correctly is the ILS frequency set in NAV 1 radio. The frequency will be found in flight planner via the 'find route' and enlarging the map via the +- symbols top left and then left clicking the very edge of the map to locate the destination runway and then clicking on the chosen runway to gain the required information.

In the radio stack, input the ILS frequency into the standby box of NAV1 (right display) and then flick the switch that is between standby and active. This now swaps the ILS information over to the active frequency display. You can hear when it becomes active by a bleeping noise when you near the airport providing you have pressed the nav1 button at the bottom of the radio stack. Once you hear the bleep you can turn it off via the nav1 button as it can be a bit annoying. Don't worry the ILS is still activated.

Providing you are set up correctly, auto pilot, speed, height and angle of approach you should be able to hit the approach button (APP) and the aircraft should turn and line up with the runway.

An example what I do when flying the 737.

GPS heading is say 150.
I'm 10-20 miles out from the airport on the final leg. Height coming down to approx 3500ft, speed 180-200nm
I can now see the runway I need to land at (green feather showing) and I can see my best angle of approach is to the right. The following instruction gives me plenty of time to get set up for the correct approach without having to panic trying to get everything done last minute.
I now set my NAV heading manually (cockpit dial) to 150 + 30 giving me an angle 180 deg in preparation.
Once I hear the ILS kick in with it's beeping I flick the GPS switch to NAV and press the heading button. This will now make the aircraft turn to the right on a heading of 180 degrees.
Once I near the runway and providing it is not too sharp an angle press the APP (approach button) and when I am directly parallel with the runway the aircraft will turn towards the runway. No need to touch any other buttons at this point.
Once the aircraft is lined up and nearing the runway the aircraft with automatically descend on the correct glide slope.

I then go through the check list. Things such as arm the speed brake, speed set to 170, correct flaps, gear down etc. All being well we should safely land. Remembering of course to knock off the auto throttle and auto pilot just prior to touch down.

It's all a bit much to take in, but have a go. What the worst that can happen.....you crash get sued and end up in some god forsaken Turkish jail as Onelifes bitch :D
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Boris+ wrote:
No - Alan, come on - do it for real ..... there really is nothing like it!

Have you flown underneath the Eiffel Tower yet - and what about landing on a carrier?

Meanwhile, we have had a good bit of fun with Captain of the Queens software - we initially sunk a warship in the Solent, and then later on we demolished part of QE2 terminal!

Em :D

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Stephen wrote:
Alan

Just to confirm, you are using FS2004. Have you thought about upgrading to FSX, cheap to purchase on Amazon.

Do you use GPS to navigate your route.
Hi Stephen

Yes, I'm using FS2004. Not sure I use it enough to warrant upping to FSX, but I'll have a look at the prices.

No, I don't use GPS - I see the radio stack to the right of the control panel but haven't a clue how to use it - I assume that is covered in a later lesson.
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Boris+ wrote:
No - Alan, come on - do it for real ..... there really is nothing like it!

Have you flown underneath the Eiffel Tower yet - and what about landing on a carrier?

Meanwhile, we have had a good bit of fun with Captain of the Queens software - we initially sunk a warship in the Solent, and then later on we demolished part of QE2 terminal!

Em :D
I did get my glider pilot's licence a few days after my 16th birthday, and, with someone else doing the take-off and landing, have flown Chipmunks, Bulldog, Vampire and Jet Provost.
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Stephen wrote:
Hi Alan


To get lined up with the runway if flying manually is just a case of practise, but if using autopilot then one important item to have set correctly is the ILS frequency set in NAV 1 radio. The frequency will be found in flight planner via the 'find route' and enlarging the map via the +- symbols top left and then left clicking the very edge of the map to locate the destination runway and then clicking on the chosen runway to gain the required information.

In the radio stack, input the ILS frequency into the standby box of NAV1 (right display) and then flick the switch that is between standby and active. This now swaps the ILS information over to the active frequency display. You can hear when it becomes active by a bleeping noise when you near the airport providing you have pressed the nav1 button at the bottom of the radio stack. Once you hear the bleep you can turn it off via the nav1 button as it can be a bit annoying. Don't worry the ILS is still activated.

Providing you are set up correctly, auto pilot, speed, height and angle of approach you should be able to hit the approach button (APP) and the aircraft should turn and line up with the runway.

An example what I do when flying the 737.

GPS heading is say 150.
I'm 10-20 miles out from the airport on the final leg. Height coming down to approx 3500ft, speed 180-200nm
I can now see the runway I need to land at (green feather showing) and I can see my best angle of approach is to the right. The following instruction gives me plenty of time to get set up for the correct approach without having to panic trying to get everything done last minute.
I now set my NAV heading manually (cockpit dial) to 150 + 30 giving me an angle 180 deg in preparation.
Once I hear the ILS kick in with it's beeping I flick the GPS switch to NAV and press the heading button. This will now make the aircraft turn to the right on a heading of 180 degrees.
Once I near the runway and providing it is not too sharp an angle press the APP (approach button) and when I am directly parallel with the runway the aircraft will turn towards the runway. No need to touch any other buttons at this point.
Once the aircraft is lined up and nearing the runway the aircraft with automatically descend on the correct glide slope.

I then go through the check list. Things such as arm the speed brake, speed set to 170, correct flaps, gear down etc. All being well we should safely land. Remembering of course to knock off the auto throttle and auto pilot just prior to touch down.

It's all a bit much to take in, but have a go. What the worst that can happen.....you crash get sued and end up in some god forsaken Turkish jail as Onelifes bitch :D
Thanks, Stephen, I've printed that out and will have a go later! Cheers!!
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Hi Alan

Don't let the radio stack scare you off, that's pretty much set automatically as you go along with you flight plan. All you need to do is input the ILS frequency into NAV1 as I mentioned earlier.

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Pop down to Bournemouth International (Hurn) multi million ££££'s sadly much underused Airport

. . . and I would be delighted to share with you a firkin of Mucky Brown's famed Darzet Zider

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. . . and you can kiss my Ferrits :D

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Graham, I seem to recall a couple of years ago, driving past Hurn, seeing a Vulcan nose section, and a few other airframes on the other side of the road. Is there an aircraft museum there?
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gfwgfw wrote:
. . . and you can kiss my Ferrits :D

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I was getting worried there for a minute what I might have to kiss :D

We are down in our favourite haunt in East Devon mid June Graham, so you never know!

Cheers me ol mate.

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gfwgfw wrote:
. . . and you can kiss my Ferrits :D

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I was getting worried there for a minute what I might have to kiss :D

We are down in our favourite haunt in East Devon mid June Graham, so you never know!

Cheers me ol mate.
and if your journey takes you down past the M4/M5 intersection, pop in for a cuppa
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Aren't you lot on the wrong forum for this discussion? Surely you should be simulating/practicing something like trying to dock Azura in Civitavecchia or Funchal with a 20 knot onshore wind blowing. :) :)

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wrong forum, possibly, but right thread!!
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Hey, Romig, welcome back!
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Who's Romig? ;-)










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Silver_Shiney wrote:
Graham, I seem to recall a couple of years ago, driving past Hurn, seeing a Vulcan nose section, and a few other airframes on the other side of the road. Is there an aircraft museum there?
Good Morning Alan

www.aviation-museum.co.uk/

though I have never got around to visit the Museum - it does look quite impressive

August 29 - September 1st http://bournemouthair.co.uk/

If you enjoy aircraft, the Bournemouth Air Festival is a must - there is a frequent bus service from down town Bournemouth to the Museum and Bournemouth International

Makes for a nice Poole Bay weekend

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Who's Romig? ;-)

I saw him lurking at the bottom of the screen at that moment!!
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gfwgfw wrote:

http://www.aviation-museum.co.uk/

though I have never got around to visit the Museum - it does look quite impressive

Graham

Thanks for that, Graham - I'm pretty sure that XH537 is the one I flew in - certainly it was 27 Sqn!
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