I've heard that too.screwy wrote: 21 Dec 2024, 14:34But it won’t be, because we are too scared to upset Islam.
In my last Prison we had 1100 guests, less than 100 Muslims but all the meat was Halhal,same as in all Prisons in the country.
Not 100% sure but I believe that meat served in Schools is the same…I may be wrong on that.
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Only because the council members have no balls and are run by the type of people that are destroying the true English way of life. But then it is 'us' who elected those twats.
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Not much hope for Labour as they are running out of ideas already and asking regulators for ideas https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy0n14ywzqpo
I was always under the impression that the regulators regulated the policies of the government of the day - not the other way round.
Looks as if it is a tougher job being in government and making the decisions that it is in being in opposition and criticising them.
I was always under the impression that the regulators regulated the policies of the government of the day - not the other way round.
Looks as if it is a tougher job being in government and making the decisions that it is in being in opposition and criticising them.
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I think this approach should have been taken up years ago…working with industry, forging better ideas for more growth doesn’t appear to me to be a case of lacking ideas, it sounds to me more like direction and how things can be done better. Unfurtunatly we over the last 13 years have been trying to steer juggernauts without really understanding the vehicles we are driving.
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This has nothing to do with industry - these are regulatory bodies who are there to do a specific job - enforce the appropriate regulations, not decide what those regulations should be.
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I have long discounted the fact that politicians have any expertise in what they are doing. I think its sensible to acknowledge this and look elsewhere for those resources, resources which are desperately needed to prompt growth within our industries.
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They've had 14 years to formulate a solution to the country's problems. So far it is looking like they have made them worse.
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Whilst I would not disagree with that there would have to be a proviso that if MPs are not doing the job that they are being paid £100k a year to do that they relinquish their salary.Onelife wrote: 28 Dec 2024, 20:17I have long discounted the fact that politicians have any expertise in what they are doing. I think its sensible to acknowledge this and look elsewhere for those resources, resources which are desperately needed to prompt growth within our industries.
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A reduction in their wage shouldn’t be such a bitter pill to swallow as most of them will tell you they become politicians to be of service to their communities and their country…. bit like nurses who get paid half the wage they get paid.david63 wrote: 28 Dec 2024, 22:18Whilst I would not disagree with that there would have to be a proviso that if MPs are not doing the job that they are being paid £100k a year to do that they relinquish their salary.Onelife wrote: 28 Dec 2024, 20:17I have long discounted the fact that politicians have any expertise in what they are doing. I think its sensible to acknowledge this and look elsewhere for those resources, resources which are desperately needed to prompt growth within our industries.
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That's a very naive view of politicians fiscal aspirations, and also at total variance with your oft quoted answer to the problem, of employing top businessmen to run the country in their place.Onelife wrote: 28 Dec 2024, 23:01A reduction in their wage shouldn’t be such a bitter pill to swallow as most of them will tell you they become politicians to be of service to their communities and their country…. bit like nurses who get paid half the wage they get paid.david63 wrote: 28 Dec 2024, 22:18Whilst I would not disagree with that there would have to be a proviso that if MPs are not doing the job that they are being paid £100k a year to do that they relinquish their salary.Onelife wrote: 28 Dec 2024, 20:17I have long discounted the fact that politicians have any expertise in what they are doing. I think its sensible to acknowledge this and look elsewhere for those resources, resources which are desperately needed to prompt growth within our industries.
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Shuffling ministers from one post to another with little to no expertise in the brief they are undertaking often results in total chaos as witnessed over recent years…So, yes, I do think there is a place for quality over quantity…I also think our country would be better managed if more prospective politicians came into politics through further education routes.towny44 wrote: 28 Dec 2024, 23:08That's a very naive view of politicians fiscal aspirations, and also at total variance with your oft quoted answer to the problem, of employing top businessmen to run the country in their place.Onelife wrote: 28 Dec 2024, 23:01A reduction in their wage shouldn’t be such a bitter pill to swallow as most of them will tell you they become politicians to be of service to their communities and their country…. bit like nurses who get paid half the wage they get paid.david63 wrote: 28 Dec 2024, 22:18
Whilst I would not disagree with that there would have to be a proviso that if MPs are not doing the job that they are being paid £100k a year to do that they relinquish their salary.
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The country is run by Sir Humphrey and his chums anyway. When ministers are naive enough to interfere Sir H just runs off to the media to tittle tattle and get them fired. Labour actively encouraged "whistle blowing " when the Tories were in power. It's already starting to backfire.
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I hope I’m not proved wrong, but I want to believe that Keir, along with his party, are putting in place the building blocks from which we can start building our country again.
I can’t remember the last time I voted for the Labour party but with this present party I can see that they are trying to do things differently which the reason why I’m less inclined to condemn them before the cement has even had time to dry.
That being said I’m none to pleased about how they are planning to tackle the migrant crossings.
I can’t remember the last time I voted for the Labour party but with this present party I can see that they are trying to do things differently which the reason why I’m less inclined to condemn them before the cement has even had time to dry.
That being said I’m none to pleased about how they are planning to tackle the migrant crossings.
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Over looked yet again.
Gareth Southgate, Stephen Fry and Olympians lead New Year Honours list https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1ln96d4yyeo
Gareth Southgate, Stephen Fry and Olympians lead New Year Honours list https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1ln96d4yyeo
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Old Charlie appears to be dishing out theses “loyalty to the firm honours” as if they were smarties. He’s clearly bolstering up support having seen the Monarchy disapproval ratings.
On that note may I be the first to wish them many more scandals for what I hope will be a Happy New Year.
On that note may I be the first to wish them many more scandals for what I hope will be a Happy New Year.
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I have been waiting all morning for this:
And why should people not be recognised for their contribution to society?
Actually the Monarch has nothing to do with who appears in the New Year Honours List (except for a couple of exceptions which only the Monarch can give out) - everyone is recommended to the Cabinet Office who approve or not.Onelife wrote: 31 Dec 2024, 11:19Old Charlie appears to be dishing out theses “loyalty to the firm honours” as if they were smarties. He’s clearly bolstering up support having seen the Monarchy disapproval ratings.
And why should people not be recognised for their contribution to society?
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That's the thing with old OL, he didn't let you down David. And a Happy New year to you .
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Sorry to have kept you waiting Daviddavid63 wrote: 31 Dec 2024, 11:33I have been waiting all morning for this:
Actually the Monarch has nothing to do with who appears in the New Year Honours List (except for a couple of exceptions which only the Monarch can give out) - everyone is recommended to the Cabinet Office who approve or not.Onelife wrote: 31 Dec 2024, 11:19Old Charlie appears to be dishing out theses “loyalty to the firm honours” as if they were smarties. He’s clearly bolstering up support having seen the Monarchy disapproval ratings.
And why should people not be recognised for their contribution to society?
I would imagine the significance of these awards is two-fold… the first being that persons are recommended for an honour, the second is that it they are sanctioned by Charlie.
As with most things Royal, the honours system has been manipulated to a point where it has lost most of its credibility…you only have to see how politician’s use cronyism to promote each other into the Lords. Knighthoods used to be awarded for outstanding acts of chivalry, you can now get them for having appeared in pantomimes, not to mention kicking balls around on a football pitch… You can even become a Dame for making an assortment of cookery dishes.
I’m not opposed to giving out awards but the majority of theses awards are given to those in show business, politics, or who are celebrities of one kind or another…. most of which get very well paid for doing jobs they essentially enjoy doing.
I wonder how many recipients of theses award truly think they are deserving of theses awards, as opposed to those who have given selfless unpaid service, or to those who have performed acts of civilian bravery, volunteer lifeboat men/women, police officers, nurses, armed forces, and the many hundreds of thousands who clear up all the sh*t that we leave behind.
I think Charlie should stop passing out so many smarties and be a lot more selective in who gets them.
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It pains me to say it but I tend to agree about most of what you say Keith.
If someone was ever deserving of recognition and a knighthood, and I expect he wouldn't be bothered either way, is Kevin Sinfield.
If someone was ever deserving of recognition and a knighthood, and I expect he wouldn't be bothered either way, is Kevin Sinfield.
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I agree Stephen, if there was ever one more deserving he Kevin Sinfield would have been at the top of most people’s list for the honour of “Sir”Stephen wrote: 31 Dec 2024, 15:57It pains me to say it but I tend to agree about most of what you say Keith.
If someone was ever deserving of recognition and a knighthood, and I expect he wouldn't be bothered either way, is Kevin Sinfield.
Apparently, the powers that be are saying that he couldn’t qualify due to there not having been enough time between his previous honour?
Basically, a technicality issue…. One will be hoping Charlie uses his Royal Prerogative to turn this around.
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Please give it a rest Keith, you're not going to convert anyone who isn't already a republican, so your posts are all rather pointless, and long ones are unread.Onelife wrote: 31 Dec 2024, 15:34Sorry to have kept you waiting Daviddavid63 wrote: 31 Dec 2024, 11:33I have been waiting all morning for this:
Actually the Monarch has nothing to do with who appears in the New Year Honours List (except for a couple of exceptions which only the Monarch can give out) - everyone is recommended to the Cabinet Office who approve or not.Onelife wrote: 31 Dec 2024, 11:19Old Charlie appears to be dishing out theses “loyalty to the firm honours” as if they were smarties. He’s clearly bolstering up support having seen the Monarchy disapproval ratings.
And why should people not be recognised for their contribution to society?![]()
I would imagine the significance of these awards is two-fold… the first being that persons are recommended for an honour, the second is that it they are sanctioned by Charlie.
As with most things Royal, the honours system has been manipulated to a point where it has lost most of its credibility…you only have to see how politician’s use cronyism to promote each other into the Lords. Knighthoods used to be awarded for outstanding acts of chivalry, you can now get them for having appeared in pantomimes, not to mention kicking balls around on a football pitch… You can even become a Dame for making an assortment of cookery dishes.
I’m not opposed to giving out awards but the majority of theses awards are given to those in show business, politics, or who are celebrities of one kind or another…. most of which get very well paid for doing jobs they essentially enjoy doing.
I wonder how many recipients of theses award truly think they are deserving of theses awards, as opposed to those who have given selfless unpaid service, or to those who have performed acts of civilian bravery, volunteer lifeboat men/women, police officers, nurses, armed forces, and the many hundreds of thousands who clear up all the sh*t that we leave behind.
I think Charlie should stop passing out so many smarties and be a lot more selective in who gets them.
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