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So ... have I got this right ?

It seems I have paid off my mortgage, worked very hard for a decent pension and saved all my working life but taken it step by step over a period of many many years and then along comes a fly by night salesman who thrives on short term gain who wants to take it away from me.

Forget it :yawn:

The house is of no benefit to us but the kids will just love it and especially so as our parents left us very little.

Perhaps a good plan would be for us to sell up, rent somewhere cheap and then spend all the money on cruises ... no problem !

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Welcome back Moby have you had a nice holiday :D

Yep your interpretation just about sums it up :lol: :lol:
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DK was a wind up merchant in another life - but had style :lol:
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gfwgfw wrote:
DK was a wind up merchant in another life :lol:
Dear Graham,

...and in this one....and in the next.....on line at least. In person he is a rather pleasant person...more the "Community Shitsu" than the "Community Rotweiler" really.

Good evening to you from the grim north.

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gfwgfw wrote:
DK was a wind up merchant in another life - but had style :lol:
Agreed but DK a la Derek was a ' wind ' up merchant as in clockwork whereas this new feller is more of the hot air variety by comparison. :lol:

ps ... yes DQ, we had a great holiday, thanks for asking :wave:
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Derek - wind up merchant - and people in their outrage fell for it every single time. Oh how he must have laughed at how easy it was.

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Derek - wind up merchant - and people in their outrage fell for it every single time. Oh how he must have laughed at how easy it was.
Of course he did but others would be laughing at him because his life was so unfulfilled that he needed to do it at all.
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Mo2013 wrote:
Derek - wind up merchant - and people in their outrage fell for it every single time. Oh how he must have laughed at how easy it was.
But who was winding up who? Sometimes the biter is too busy biting to notice that he is being bitten.

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Manoverboard wrote:
Mo2013 wrote:
Derek - wind up merchant - and people in their outrage fell for it every single time. Oh how he must have laughed at how easy it was.
Of course he did but others would be laughing at him because his life was so unfulfilled that he needed to do it at all.

Unfulfilled? In your opinion ! I should imagine that a deliberate wind up merchant would feel extremely gratified and fulfilled in reaping the results of his/her efforts.

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Mo2013 wrote:
Manoverboard wrote:
Mo2013 wrote:
Derek - wind up merchant - and people in their outrage fell for it every single time. Oh how he must have laughed at how easy it was.
Of course he did but others would be laughing at him because his life was so unfulfilled that he needed to do it at all.
Unfulfilled? In your opinion ! I should imagine that a deliberate wind up merchant would feel extremely gratified and fulfilled in reaping the results of his/her efforts.
Giving an opinion in my posting is indeed my opinion ... sounds reasonable, who else's would it be ?

We are in agreement in that such a person would feel gratified by their actions but my point was, and remains, that to need to do so probably means that other areas in their lives are lacking or incomplete through inadequacy ... generally speaking rather than person specific of course.
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I understand Manoverboard and I suppose on reflection, whatever the motive, I concur that there has to be some sort of problem and inadequacy in anyone who engages in humiliations and put-downs.

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Thankd goodness that's agreed. Now Mo, will you be apologising to Ken?

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Ooh you are funny Helen - no.

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Mo, you went for him like a heat seeking missile over sod all!

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Oh Helen - are you sure you haven't got that the wrong way round? Off to a party soon - so you'll have to find someone else to play with. Ta ra !

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Have fun and don't be drawn into any games of Scrabble :D


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A new Government initiative:

To help save the economy, the Government
will announce next month that the Immigration
Department will start deporting senior citizens
(instead of illegals) in order to lower Social
Security and N.H.S. costs (‘flu jabs, Zimmer frames,
wheelchairs, free prescriptions, bus passes, etc.)

The Government has established that older people
are easier to catch and, in most cases,
will not remember how to get back home.

I started to cry when I thought of you –
maybe I’d never see you again….

Then it dawned on me...bugger!...

I'll see you on the bus!

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poole boy wrote:
A new Government initiative:

To help save the economy, the Government
will announce next month that the Immigration
Department will start deporting senior citizens
(instead of illegals) in order to lower Social
Security and N.H.S. costs (‘flu jabs, Zimmer frames,
wheelchairs, free prescriptions, bus passes, etc.)

The Government has established that older people
are easier to catch and, in most cases,
will not remember how to get back home.

I started to cry when I thought of you –
maybe I’d never see you again….

Then it dawned on me...bug*er!...

I'll see you on the bus!
Will we have a choice of where to go?


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think it will be to hull to pick darknight up

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Hey Ho

A considered observation by a appreciative OAP recipient

I do think under current climate with a shortfall of many £££££'s to the National purse- manly due to gross mismanagement of most of our recent governments of all persuasions

I quick solution in my opinion would to advance the years for recipient of pensions and benefits

The average life longevity has without doubt has increased considerably from the point of conception relating to the age of recipients

On reflection

The enormous coffers to the exchequers purse would be squandered by the ineptitude of this and the next generation of politicians
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I wonder if the Bat is still unpacking his boxes after his move to 'Ull?

If so maybe I can lob in two pennyworth on his original point and wait a week of two for the bomb to drop.

In forty years working life I paid in National Insurance every week. I never in that time claimed any benefit other than child alllowance. I may, unless they move the goalposts again, get my state pension in the next couple of years and if I'm very lucky it will be the princely sum of something a little over £100 a week. I couldn't give a damn whether it's a right, a benefit, an entitlement or something else. All I know is I paid in a lot more than I'll ever get out, so I'm bleeping well having it!

I also planned for my retirement and contributed to company pension schemes and saved every penny I could. That is why I can now afford to cruise once a year - maybe twice in a very good year. If I manage it perfectly I will just about run out of money by the time I die.

The idea that I shouldn't get my state pension, because I can afford to cruise, because I planned and saved, is frankly crass. Would taking that away be a just reward for forethought and prudence in my working life or a sensible incentive for the current generation to look out for themselves?

On the other hand because others borrowed money they couldn't afford to pay back, including government, industry and individuals, and because banks decided to play it all on the roulette tables instead of looking after it properly, the economy is now in tatters and the government's response is to penalise those like us who saved with pitiful interest rates.

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