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[Mo2013]

'Except problems some seem to make'. Mmm. Some seem to make problems with my posts.

[frintonite]

Welcome Derek, you have been missed

[Romig1]

This thread is even better that Eastenders.

[ChesterfieldJohn]

Silver Shiney said "the moderators on this site .......... are accountable to the rest of us, especially so as many people here know each other personally, rather than just in cyberspace. Although I have never met them in person, I proud to call them friends."

It is not a question of fear or how a post is worded, since some posts remain. Many people are known to each other personally, so that is where problems arise. Whilst Mods may think they are being fair, I just don't think that Mods will be able to help favouring their 'friends', because it's human nature. A Mod can comment very generally on threads, but should never become involved on a personal level, which has happened.

I agree completely friendship certainly comes in to it with the moderators.

John

[HK phooey]

"I agree completely friendship certainly comes in to it with the moderators."
John

John I have only taken your quote as it is the most recent. What a load of complete ballcocks. The mods on this site, David, Ken, OBF, and MOB are people that were supposedly in a clique with me on the old site - Jenny I'm not familiar with. Anyway, they have deleted or red penned me so much on this site that I have stomped off once and moaned to them about it more than once since. I think they over moderate, some of the old crowd obviously think the same and that's why they're not here now. No matter, it's David's site and he WILL moderate it as he sees fit, we all have the choice to stay or leave, but enough of this childish them and us nonsense.

[Silver_Shiney]

"I agree completely friendship certainly comes in to it with the moderators."
John

John I have only taken your quote as it is the most recent. What a load of complete ballcocks. The mods on this site, David, Ken, OBF, and MOB are people that were supposedly in a clique with me on the old site - Jenny I'm not familiar with. Anyway, they have deleted or red penned me so much on this site that I have stomped off once and moaned to them about it more than once since. I think they over moderate, some of the old crowd obviously think the same and that's why they're not here now. No matter, it's David's site and he WILL moderate it as he sees fit, we all have the choice to stay or leave, but enough of this childish them and us nonsense.

[Romig1]

"I agree completely friendship certainly comes in to it with the moderators."
John

John I have only taken your quote as it is the most recent. What a load of complete ballcocks. The mods on this site, David, Ken, OBF, and MOB are people that were supposedly in a clique with me on the old site - Jenny I'm not familiar with. Anyway, they have deleted or red penned me so much on this site that I have stomped off once and moaned to them about it more than once since. I think they over moderate, some of the old crowd obviously think the same and that's why they're not here now. No matter, it's David's site and he WILL moderate it as he sees fit, we all have the choice to stay or leave, but enough of this childish them and us nonsense.

Exactly something I wished to say...but maybe didn't have the ballcocks to do so!

[ChesterfieldJohn]

"I agree completely friendship certainly comes in to it with the moderators."
John

John I have only taken your quote as it is the most recent. What a load of complete ballcocks. The mods on this site, David, Ken, OBF, and MOB are people that were supposedly in a clique with me on the old site - Jenny I'm not familiar with. Anyway, they have deleted or red penned me so much on this site that I have stomped off once and moaned to them about it more than once since. I think they over moderate, some of the old crowd obviously think the same and that's why they're not here now. No matter, it's David's site and he WILL moderate it as he sees fit, we all have the choice to stay or leave, but enough of this childish them and us nonsense.

Me feels though doth protest to much.

Someone on the other site must have felt that you were a clique then.

No smoke without fire.


Ballcocks in your opinion but obviously not in everyones then.

John

[Admiral of the Humber]

Silver Shiney said "the moderators on this site .......... are accountable to the rest of us, especially so as many people here know each other personally, rather than just in cyberspace. Although I have never met them in person, I proud to call them friends."

It is not a question of fear or how a post is worded, since some posts remain. Many people are known to each other personally, so that is where problems arise. Whilst Mods may think they are being fair, I just don't think that Mods will be able to help favouring their 'friends', because it's human nature. A Mod can comment very generally on threads, but should never become involved on a personal level, which has happened.

I agree completely friendship certainly comes in to it with the moderators.

John

Dear John,

Do you post for effect or are you just a very silly man?

Regards
Rob

[ChesterfieldJohn]

Silver Shiney said "the moderators on this site .......... are accountable to the rest of us, especially so as many people here know each other personally, rather than just in cyberspace. Although I have never met them in person, I proud to call them friends."

It is not a question of fear or how a post is worded, since some posts remain. Many people are known to each other personally, so that is where problems arise. Whilst Mods may think they are being fair, I just don't think that Mods will be able to help favouring their 'friends', because it's human nature. A Mod can comment very generally on threads, but should never become involved on a personal level, which has happened.

I agree completely friendship certainly comes in to it with the moderators.

John

Dear John,

Do you post for effect or are you just a very silly man?



Regards
Rob

Dear AoTH I refer you to rule 1b

John

[Meg 50]

Dear AoTH I refer you to rule 1b

John

Is that the off-side rule?

[Romig1]

Meg, can I interest you in a embossed leather cover for your rule-book? I've been selling quite a few recently. Keeps it in tip-top condition.

[Delboy]

"I agree completely friendship certainly comes in to it with the moderators."
John

John I have only taken your quote as it is the most recent. What a load of complete ballcocks. The mods on this site, David, Ken, OBF, and MOB are people that were supposedly in a clique with me on the old site - Jenny I'm not familiar with. Anyway, they have deleted or red penned me so much on this site that I have stomped off once and moaned to them about it more than once since. I think they over moderate, some of the old crowd obviously think the same and that's why they're not here now. No matter, it's David's site and he WILL moderate it as he sees fit, we all have the choice to stay or leave, but enough of this childish them and us nonsense.

HK

I agree and if posters don't like the way the forum is moderated, then nobody is forcing them to stay.

[Admiral of the Humber]

Silver Shiney said "the moderators on this site .......... are accountable to the rest of us, especially so as many people here know each other personally, rather than just in cyberspace. Although I have never met them in person, I proud to call them friends."

It is not a question of fear or how a post is worded, since some posts remain. Many people are known to each other personally, so that is where problems arise. Whilst Mods may think they are being fair, I just don't think that Mods will be able to help favouring their 'friends', because it's human nature. A Mod can comment very generally on threads, but should never become involved on a personal level, which has happened.

I agree completely friendship certainly comes in to it with the moderators.

John

Dear John,

Do you post for effect or are you just a very silly man?



Regards
Rob

Dear AoTH I refer you to rule 1b

John

Good point John. I believe your post is very definitely in contravention of rule 1b. Anyway you digress and neglected to answer my question.

Regards
Rob aka AOTH

[ChesterfieldJohn]

Good point John. I believe your post is very definitely in contravention of rule 1b. Anyway you digress and neglected to answer my question.

Regards
Rob aka AOTH

b. Members should post in a way that is respectful of other members and not disrupt the normal flow of dialogue, or otherwise act in a manner that negatively affects other members' ability to engage in real time exchanges. Flaming or abusing members in any way, seeking retribution or fuelling confrontation with other members which may lead to members leaving or the overall harmony of Cruise Community being disrupted, will not, under any circumstances, be tolerated and will lead to a warning.

I do not believe I did that at all.

d. Members must not post in a degoratory manner anything to any named person, be they a member of Cruise Community or not, nor post in such a way that any person can be identified from the information posted. Any such breach will result in a warning.

Perhaps you should also read that one.

John

[Admiral of the Humber]

Dear John,

Good morning.

I will leave that to the angry confrontational people.

Regards
Rob aka AOTH

[Delboy]

As I posted earlier I have been of late a minimal poster on this forum , but I do look in regularly.

It would seem to me the vast majority of posters are very happy with the forum and the way it is moderated, however there always appears to be one or two who are not.
Every time the question of moderating the forum is raised, it always seems to be the same people who raise it and make the accusations of favouritism against the moderators.
David set the forum up, and as is his right, he chose how it was to be moderated and who the moderators are, if some posters are not happy with that and think there is a them and us, why join in the first place, and secondly why stay.

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You will always get the odd poster, who thinks they can moderate better than the moderators, nothing new, it happens on all forums, what they forget without the moderator who set it up, there would be no forum.

[Manoverboard]

For completeness I have also enclosed the Forum Rules so that nobody is at a disadvantage

[sumdumbloke]

As I posted earlier I have been of late a minimal poster on this forum , but I do look in regularly.


You will always get the odd poster, who thinks they can moderate better than the moderators, nothing new, it happens on all forums, what they forget without the moderator who set it up, there would be no forum.

And without people other than the very core group it moves from being a forum to a social chat site.

The problem with identifying a 'few' rebels and complainers is that as they're forced out (intentionally or not) then the system inevitably moves to the next 'non core' posters, until all you're left with is people who agree about everything and tell each other how friendly the site is.

There is a place for that, and perhaps that's what some people want, but it's something other than a forum.

[Delboy]

As I posted earlier I have been of late a minimal poster on this forum , but I do look in regularly.


You will always get the odd poster, who thinks they can moderate better than the moderators, nothing new, it happens on all forums, what they forget without the moderator who set it up, there would be no forum.

And without people other than the very core group it moves from being a forum to a social chat site.

The problem with identifying a 'few' rebels and complainers is that as they're forced out (intentionally or not) then the system inevitably moves to the next 'non core' posters, until all you're left with is people who agree about everything and tell each other how friendly the site is.

There is a place for that, and perhaps that's what some people want, but it's something other than a forum.

I have always looked upon Cruise Forums as a social chat site, because that is what most of them are, that's why they are called cruising community forums, not forgetting the great cruising information they also provide.

[Silver_Shiney]

".... or fuelling confrontation with other members which may lead to members leaving or the overall harmony of Cruise Community being disrupted, will not, under any circumstances, be tolerated and will lead to a warning."

I do not believe I did that at all.

I would respectfully point out that some of your posts, especially those directed at me, have been very confrontational and I have considered leaving this forum because of you. However, when I thought of all the decent people here, with whom I enjoy robust and friendly banter, I decided to stay.

AOTH's question "are you just a very silly man" was not an insult, it was simply a question - because you do come over as a very silly man and I am quite sure that you are not. Also, by quoting chapter and verse of the rule book, you make yourself appear as a "barrack room lawyer" - a very sure way of making yourself extremely unpopular. Again, I am sure that you are not such a prat and would be horrified to think that this is how you are perceived.

I would respectfully urge you to tone down your comments.

Kind regards

[Silver_Shiney]

As I posted earlier I have been of late a minimal poster on this forum , but I do look in regularly.


You will always get the odd poster, who thinks they can moderate better than the moderators, nothing new, it happens on all forums, what they forget without the moderator who set it up, there would be no forum.

And without people other than the very core group it moves from being a forum to a social chat site.

The problem with identifying a 'few' rebels and complainers is that as they're forced out (intentionally or not) then the system inevitably moves to the next 'non core' posters, until all you're left with is people who agree about everything and tell each other how friendly the site is.

There is a place for that, and perhaps that's what some people want, but it's something other than a forum.

I have always looked upon Cruise Forums as a social chat site, because that is what most of them are, that's why they are called cruising community forums, not forgetting the great cruising information they also provide.

[HK phooey]

Well Degsy, see what you've started? I hope you're pleased with yourself

[CaroleF]

Is this not a Cruising Forum - brilliantly devised by David to fill the gap that was left when P&O removed their Community Site? Yes there is a social side to it - the Chat section where people can have fun discussing all sorts of topics. The most important part for me is the Cruise Related Section, all the information about the different ships and also the various ports. I look at the General Chat forum - as is evident from this posting - but don't often post. I have met one of the moderators and when I saw he was a moderator I felt it was a good choice. It seems sad to me when people start posting the rules and accuse others of contravening them. If the moderators feel that a rule has been broken they will act. I do recognise one of the posters who likes to be contentious from the P&O forum (not MM) and people of his nature will only continue their postings when others argue with them - ignored won't they go away? It's no fun for someone wanting to be argumentative if no one responds to them.

I continue to be so glad that David took the time to set up this forum - I would really miss it if it were not here.

Carole

[Kendhni]

And on Carols words I have opted to lock this topic.