Come on Andy Murray

[Not so ancient mariner]

Susan, your post has made me come over all teary eyed and sentimental about what being British is all about.

Get a life, HK!

While we are on the subject of national identity, can somebody remind me what is the English
National Anthem.

[HK phooey]

There isn't an official national anthem for England notso. God save the Queen is the song of choice at most sporting events, though sometimes Jerusalem is sung, which I prefer.

[Mo2013]

The national anthem of England is Land of Hope and Glory

[HK phooey]

No it isn't Mo.

[Mo2013]

Oh ! Mo wrote, deflated like an after-party balloon

I goggled it and the blurb said it was ........

Used as the anthem at the Commonwealth Games for example

[Mo2013]

He's British - I don't care if he's English, Scottish, Welsh or Irish (NI) - it was a fantastic, emotion wrenching match to watch and it was an amazing achievement - look at the crowds on the Hill at Wimbledon - there can't have been a foot to spare. I think it's certainly worth a celebration!

Carole

He's British when he wins, and Scottish when he loses. Scotland has its own Parliament, and I know we are the United Kingdom, but he is not English. I live in England so in my eyes England does not have a Wimbledon Champion. Now if Tim Henman had won it, England would have had a champion. And I don't know about the crowds - I once met some people who only went to a Michael Jackson concert just so they could boast about it afterwards. They were not fans in the true sense.

[Not so ancient mariner]

Oh ! Mo wrote, deflated like an after-party balloon

I goggled it and the blurb said it was ........

Used as the anthem at the Commonwealth Games for example

But not at football or rugby internationals..

[Stephen]

I thought it was 'Roll Out The Barrel'

[HK phooey]

God save the queen is the UK anthem but for England alone there isn't one so either GSTQ, Land of Hope or Jerusalem are used. It would be nice to have an official English one, I'd vote for Jerusalem.

[Serendipity]

I could be wrong but when applying for a passport/legal document and it asks for your nationality I have never seen 'Scottish' as a nationality usually British and from the UK.
He played well and good luck to him.

[Mo2013]

I thought it was 'Roll Out The Barrel'

Nah, it's knees up muvver brahn

[Mo2013]

I could be wrong but when applying for a passport/legal document and it asks for your nationality I have never seen 'Scottish' as a nationality usually British and from the UK.
He played well and good luck to him.

Yes, of course, but he is not English which is my point. I feared for him in the third set, thought he'd lost the plot, but he pulled himself together.

[Holiday Planner]

I was born in England, and have always lived in England, and am proud to be English. However, I value the diversity we find in the United Kingdom and consider myself British, first & foremost.
I say, well done to Andy Murray. He can be a proud Scot, and I will support him as a fellow Brit whether he wins or loses! He is primarily a sportsman with a strong desire to win. As such I don't expect him to be 'charismatic' or a great orator. I think Sport's 'personality' award is a misnomer.

By the way, Jerusalem was written by William Blake as an anti-establishment, anti-religious poem, not the Nationalistic hymn that many think it is!

[Mo2013]

"The poem was inspired by the apocryphal story that a young Jesus, accompanied by his uncle Joseph of Arimathea, a tin merchant, travelled to what is now England and visited Glastonbury during the unknown years of Jesus. The legend is linked to an idea in the Book of Revelation (3:12 and 21:2) describing a Second Coming, wherein Jesus establishes a new Jerusalem. The Christian Church in general, and the English Church in particular, has long used Jerusalem as a metaphor for Heaven, a place of universal love and peace."

Jerusalem is too religious for me.

Source

[Serendipity]

I have never heard anyone say he was English, British yes!

[Not so ancient mariner]

I could be wrong but when applying for a passport/legal document and it asks for your nationality I have never seen 'Scottish' as a nationality usually British and from the UK.
He played well and good luck to him.

That may change after the independence referendum - but hopefully not.

[oldbluefox]

For my money anybody playing under the Union flag gets my support. If they are playing for GB it's the Union flag which should be waving, not the Scottish saltire, flag of St George, skull and crossbones or Royal Ensign. Hence I support the likes of Chris Hoy just as much as Jessica Ennis. Of course if it's England who are playing Wales, N Ireland or Scotland I expect to see the national flags.
It was Murray himself who said, 'If I win I'm British, if I lose I'm Scottish'. I thought at the time what a strange thing to say. Well now that he has won I am happy for him to be feted as a Scottish champion rather than British but all this talk of knighthoods, statues etc is totally OTT in my opinion.

[oldbluefox]

I could be wrong but when applying for a passport/legal document and it asks for your nationality I have never seen 'Scottish' as a nationality usually British and from the UK.
He played well and good luck to him.

That may change after the independence referendum - but hopefully not.

I recently visited the Scottish Parliament in Edinburgh and sat in on a debate. I have never heard so much anti-English rhetoric, it was quite uncomfortable listening. Having said that the people we met in Edinburgh (hotels, cafes, restaurants, bus drivers etc) could not have been more helpful or more accommodating and parliament aside it was a lovely place to visit.

[Not so ancient mariner]

Talk of statues is decidedly premature. Fred Perry's was erected 50 years after his first Wimbledon win.

[Silver_Shiney]

all this talk of knighthoods, statues etc is totally OTT in my opinion.

hear hear. The lad played well, but at the end of the day, it's only a game of tennis.