Why the Germans really are good! e.g. Miele.

[david63]

... or is it more a symptom of our "throw away" society?

[emjay45]

I don't think manufacturers want goods to last. We have been in this house 8 years and I'm already on my 3rd washing machine. The first was a Bosch, the second an AEG. I chose the AEG because I'd previously had one which lasted 10 years. As I said in my previous post I'm worried my new machine is going to cause me nothing but trouble. The nice thing about it is when it finishes it plays a little tune

[Silver_Shiney]

... or is it more a symptom of our "throw away" society?

Probably - it's usually cheaper to buy a replacement than to get it fixed. For example, all our DVD players have packed in after 18-24 months - engineers charge £40 minimum to look at them, new players can be purchased for around £20.

[Kendhni]

Good grief ... our first washing machine was second hand and it lasted 6 years. The second washing machine lasted 14 years and our current one is 8 years old and not missed a beat in that time ... all Hotpoints. Our dishwasher, hob and oven are all 13 years old (again all Hotpoint). One of my HiFi systems (Sansui) is 25 years old and the other (Sony) is 13 years old.

My Sky box is over 10 years old and my 2 sound systems/DVD players are both 5 years old. The oldest TV we had I bought for Julie as a first wedding anniversary present (a Pye) and it was still working when we through it out ... due to digital change over.

What do you lot do with your electrical equipment .. play football with it?

[david63]

Ken - you are actually supposed to USE these things not just stand then in a corner to see how old they can get

[Kendhni]

... to be totally fair David, many of those are white goods ... white to match the brides outfit .. I wouldn't know anything about them

[Frank Manning]

I don't think manufacturers want goods to last. We have been in this house 8 years and I'm already on my 3rd washing machine. The first was a Bosch, the second an AEG. I chose the AEG because I'd previously had one which lasted 10 years. As I said in my previous post I'm worried my new machine is going to cause me nothing but trouble. The nice thing about it is when it finishes it plays a little tune

Always look on the bright side of life de dum de dah etc.

[Frank Manning]

Having had Hoover, Hotpoit, Indesit (god forbid) and AEG, we bought a Mele and they are fantastic! I agree about them talking you through problems over the telephone - wonderful. And their dishwashers are fabuous. I would NEVER consider anything else.

No complaints about Miele here either Gill, as I said earlier. Yesterday I put a load on Cottons Short wash, and too much powder in the machine (It's a man thing!!). It readjusted the time half way through because the rinses weren't enough. Sue often says to it, "You're cleverer than I am" I mutter under my breath "Not difficult", then duck and run.

[Lollie]

When we bought our Miele washing machine it was the only one with a special 'flood' cut-out, we live above our shop and had one very unfortunate incident when a machine decided to leak and we only realised when we went down into the shop to find a waterfall cascading down the shelves . The benefit of the cut-out was enough to convince us to spend the extra and I agree that Miele service is EXCELLENT, we did try once to get someone local to repair it but no-one will touch Miele presume parts too expensive or just too tricky to fix.

[emjay45]

I don't think manufacturers want goods to last. We have been in this house 8 years and I'm already on my 3rd washing machine. The first was a Bosch, the second an AEG. I chose the AEG because I'd previously had one which lasted 10 years. As I said in my previous post I'm worried my new machine is going to cause me nothing but trouble. The nice thing about it is when it finishes it plays a little tune

Always look on the bright side of life de dum de dah etc.

Ha Ha , perhaps it should play that one

[Dancing Queen]

Miele parts are expensive ( as you would expect for the crème de la crème of white goods ) but the reason local engineers are probably reluctant to repair is because Miele will not issue Service Repair Manuals to Independents ( or they didn't used to ) so anyone attempting to repair one of their machines would basically be working blind.

[Dancing Queen]

Emjay, my husband is no longer in the trade but when he was there were only 3 makes he would sell which were LG, Bosch and AEG ( Miele wasn't an option as most of our customers wouldn't have paid the price ) I'm not saying other makes are no good but he always went with the manufacturer that had the least problems and these three fit the bill !!!

LG have a very good reputation and ok there will always be the odd "rogue" machine, personally if I was you I would ask for it to be replaced as the fault appeared on the first use, it could well be a known fault which has now been modified and your machine just might have been in a warehouse somewhere and missed the modification but for peace of mind an exchange might be the best answer.

[Ray Scully]

What a load of softies with your electric machines.. Mrs S washes away admirably using her dolly and tub. BTW we are into a third dolly and second tub since we got married. I am so appreciative of not having to purchase one of these new fangled electrical things, and been able to spend the money with the lads down at our local.

[Silver_Shiney]

What a load of softies with your electric machines.. Mrs S washes away admirably using her dolly and tub. BTW we are into a third dolly and second tub since we got married. I am so appreciative of not having to purchase one of these new fangled electrical things, and been able to spend the money with the lads down at our local.

Good grief, man, what is wrong with you? Dolly? Tub? What's wrong with banging the clothes on the rocks down by the river?

[Andrea S]

Do you all mean you have to take your clothes off. There is me thinking that you did it when you had a good scrub in the tin bath.

SS, That doesn't sound a very good idea, it might be raining.

[Ray Scully]

What a load of softies with your electric machines.. Mrs S washes away admirably using her dolly and tub. BTW we are into a third dolly and second tub since we got married. I am so appreciative of not having to purchase one of these new fangled electrical things, and been able to spend the money with the lads down at our local.

Good grief, man, what is wrong with you? Dolly? Tub? What's wrong with banging the clothes on the rocks down by the river?

Tried that but the nearest suitable river is the Mersey and all our good stuff kept being nicked

[Silver_Shiney]

Do you all mean you have to take your clothes off. There is me thinking that you did it when you had a good scrub in the tin bath.

SS, That doesn't sound a very good idea, it might be raining.

Fresh water rinse, dear....

[Silver_Shiney]

What a load of softies with your electric machines.. Mrs S washes away admirably using her dolly and tub. BTW we are into a third dolly and second tub since we got married. I am so appreciative of not having to purchase one of these new fangled electrical things, and been able to spend the money with the lads down at our local.

Good grief, man, what is wrong with you? Dolly? Tub? What's wrong with banging the clothes on the rocks down by the river?

Tried that but the nearest suitable river is the Mersey and all our good stuff kept being nicked

Mersey? Hmm, sounds to me like you were just going through the motions.....

[emjay45]

Emjay, my husband is no longer in the trade but when he was there were only 3 makes he would sell which were LG, Bosch and AEG ( Miele wasn't an option as most of our customers wouldn't have paid the price ) I'm not saying other makes are no good but he always went with the manufacturer that had the least problems and these three fit the bill !!!

LG have a very good reputation and ok there will always be the odd "rogue" machine, personally if I was you I would ask for it to be replaced as the fault appeared on the first use, it could well be a known fault which has now been modified and your machine just might have been in a warehouse somewhere and missed the modification but for peace of mind an exchange might be the best answer.

How strange that the three machines he would sell are the last three machines I've bought. My Bosch lasted 3 years although the dishwasher, and tumble drier bought at the same time (8 years ago) are still going strong. The AEG lasted not much longer . Am I just jinxed at the moment. I am still using my new machine and have decided to carry on and not worry about the noises it makes as I wonder if it just the way the machine is. You are probably right and I may be being foolish I just don't want the hassle. If it goes it goes. I must admit I love everything else about it. It has a large drum and a huge porthole which is why I chose it.

[Frank Manning]

Seriously Em, Get after them. If it is new then you cant afford to let a potential problem go on. As a previous poster said, get the retailer to replace it, if you can. £600 is a lot of money.

Ray has a point, when our daughter was born, I had two weeks holiday to look after Sue, and we had no proper washing machine, just a spin drier and a clothes line. There were no disposable nappies in those days...it was a line full of white terry towelling. Luckily we lived no where near the river mersey.

[Stephen]

We are interested in buying a particular Miele fridge. Try finding a shop that has them on display. More chance of wining the lottery.

[CaroleF]

When we had a new kitchen/dining extension 12 years ago I let the kitchen designer ( Mark Wilkinson) choose the white goods for the kitchen - goodness knows why I trusted him but I did. He chose a Miele dishwasher and fridge/freezer and they've both been brilliant. Had one tiny problem with the dishwasher but as has been said it was sorted with a phone call. If our washing machine gives up - no when our washing machine gives up - there have been signs - I will try and talk my husband into buying a Miele - I know they are expensive but they are worth it. When you think how much we use these items over a year it doesn't seem so bad - at least that's what I'll tell John!

Carole

[Wobgoescruising]

Stephen, we used to have a great Liebherr fridge/freezer. Liebherr make refrigeration for Miele so go for Liebherr - Miele just stick their badge on !.

(it was a few years ago so worth checking if that's still the same).