No Smoking on balconies on P & O from April 2014.

[Wina G]

Me too

[Dark Knight]

phew
thanks, I thought I had totally misread that.

[Silver_Shiney]

phew
thanks, I thought I had totally misread that.

You're not the only one. I THINK he was saying it tongue in cheek.....

[Quizzical Bob]

In that case Bob - lucky you !

Choice as well as luck, Mo. I have also spent many an afternoon bobbing about off Calshot getting in the way of the QE2 and others, all those poor under-privileged passengers looking down on me with envy!

I remember sailing away from foreign shores and a show-off in a little speedboat was roaring past us, until the wash from our ship sent his craft a bit awry.

No noisy smelly motor thingies for me, mine would have had a sail and would have been going very slowly.

[Dark Knight]

I would agree that cruising is exceptional value for what is included, but I cannot agree that that the food is of a very high standard, it's okay but far from gourmet fare ,as it is mass catering ,not fine dining in the main restaurants
the speciality restauarants on board are of a much higher standard

[tractor boy]

Going back to the OP, As a smoker who has booked a balcony cabin for 2015 to the caribbean I think its out of order that when we booked 2 weeks ago there was no mention of this. Surely this is breach of contract. I know I wll get put down by the non smokers on here as usual but I wonder how long it will be before they stop us drinking in our cabins, or banning stinky feet,BO, etc due to cleaning. God whatever next, they will soon say I cant jack up in my cabin or use the bathroom for taking cocain

[Mo2013]

Going back to the OP, As a smoker who has booked a balcony cabin for 2015 to the caribbean I think its out of order that when we booked 2 weeks ago there was no mention of this. Surely this is breach of contract. I know I wll get put down by the non smokers on here as usual but I wonder how long it will be before they stop us drinking in our cabins, or banning stinky feet,BO, etc due to cleaning. God whatever next, they will soon say I cant jack up in my cabin or use the bathroom for taking cocain

Tractor boy, you are wrong. I for one am not going to put you down so you might not want to make blanket assumptions. I do not smoke but agree that it is out of order not to tell passengers at the time of booking (two weeks ago) of this new ruling. I also understand the feelings of people who booked further back to learn of this new rule. However, I fear that you are overreacting and being silly regarding other things, i.e. stopping drinking in cabins, BO, etc. unless you were just being sarcastic. Everyone knows that there is a valid reason why they are banning smoking it's not just to be awkward and bloody-minded to smokers.

[Ray Scully]

When the last big smoking ban (theatres, bars) was introduced a number of years ago, I was smoking at the time and we had booked a Caribbean fly cruise. I contacted my TA asking him to cancel as this was a fundamental change to the T&C I had booked under. This he duly did and the following day we booked on Princess: Beijing to Thailand.

Ray

[Dennis The Menace]

Speaking as someone who's cruising partner of choice, Lola, is a life size inflatable latex doll that I fill with helium before each cruise, I welcome the smoking on balconies ban for safety reasons alone.

[Ray Scully]

Going back to the OP, As a smoker who has booked a balcony cabin for 2015 to the caribbean I think its out of order that when we booked 2 weeks ago there was no mention of this. Surely this is breach of contract. I know I wll get put down by the non smokers on here as usual but I wonder how long it will be before they stop us drinking in our cabins, or banning stinky feet,BO, etc due to cleaning. God whatever next, they will soon say I cant jack up in my cabin or use the bathroom for taking cocain

Tractor boy, you are wrong. I for one am not going to put you down so you might not want to make blanket assumptions. I do not smoke but agree that it is out of order not to tell passengers at the time of booking (two weeks ago) of this new ruling. I also understand the feelings of people who booked further back to learn of this new rule. However, I fear that you are overreacting and being silly regarding other things, i.e. stopping drinking in cabins, BO, etc. unless you were just being sarcastic.


Everyone knows that there is a valid reason why they are banning smoking it's not just to be awkward and bloody-minded to smokers.

Of course everyone knows, there is a vociferous minority complaining. The ban could just have been for a number of ships in the first instance.


Ray

Ray

[Mo2013]

Ray, take it up with the cruise line or vote with your feet. I don't know the figures but I would imagine there is more than a 'vociferous minority complaining'. If you do not understand why people find the habit disgusting, smelly and dangerous to health, then nothing I, or anyone else, can say will make you see. Smokers by and large are a selfish breed who do not care about their own body, care even less about what anyone else feels. You don't seem to be able to accept the overwhelming social demand for there not to be smokers smoking wherever they like, instead you only care about what you want.

[Ray Scully]

Ray, take it up with the cruise line or vote with your feet. I don't know the figures but I would imagine there is more than a 'vociferous minority complaining'. If you do not understand why people find the habit disgusting, smelly and dangerous to health, then nothing I, or anyone else, can say will make you see. Smokers by and large are a selfish breed who do not care about their own body, care even less about what anyone else feels.

You don't seem to be able to accept the overwhelming social demand for there not to be smokers smoking wherever they like, instead

Don't be silly Smokers can no longer smoke were they like

All I am seeking is even handedness in relation to the problem.


you only care about what you want.

No different than you then Mo

[Quizzical Bob]

Speaking as someone who's cruising partner of choice, Lola, is a life size inflatable latex doll that I fill with helium before each cruise, I welcome the smoking on balconies ban for safety reasons alone.

Dennis, you silly boy. Don't you know that they are filled with inert Helium instead of Hydrogen and that they're a lot safer since the Hindenburg. Unless this doll of yours is bigger than that?

[Mo2013]

Ray, I am not indulging in a habit that affects other people and moaning because I can't do it on a ship's balcony.

[Dark Knight]

no point moaning about it either way
it's done
end of
either put up or shut up

[Ray Scully]

Ray, I am not indulging in a habit that affects other people and moaning because I can't do it on a ship's balcony.

Neither am I Mo as I got the health warning, hopefully in time.

However being an ex smoker I feel that I do understand the problem, now from both sides.
What I can't accept is people wanting everything their own way, whether it be smoking or other issues
On our first cruise, smoking was allowed on the flights, throughout the ship including the restaurants and theatres. Contrast that with today's restrictions. I would say the non smoker has got a pretty good deal.
Grinding the smoker into the ground may give satisfaction to a few, but I would suggest is not a good solution.

Ray

p.s

I just wonder how many complain of smoking on balconies who never have, or will book a balcony cabin???

[Quizzical Bob]

Can't say, Ray, but I don't book them any more because there might be a smoker next door. We used to always have a balcony.

[Mo2013]

Ray, I smoked too many years ago until I was diagnosed with TB and I had to stop right there and then. It is not about people wanting their own way, it is about people just wanting to drink in pubs and clubs, dine out etc. without the fug of cigarette smoke which, as you concede, harmful both to a smoker's and a non-smokers health. There is added dangers of smoking in confined spaces etc. and smoking on balconies may be considered dangerous We have learned so much about smoking and its dangers and unfortunately for smokers, changes have had to be made. I would be in favour of a small smoking lounge with a good extraction system.

[Ray Scully]

Can't say, Ray, but I don't book them any more because there might be a smoker next door. We used to always have a balcony.

QB
So your one of those cruisers I am subsidising through my inflated Balcony price

Ray

[hopefultraveller]

Originally, it seems you only found out about the change in smoking policy through your Cruise Personaliser. We received a letter from P and O this morning telling us about the change as we have booked for May next year. We are non-smokers so we are not affected but we may not have felt the same had we smoked.
Val

[Boris+]

I've had an official email today about this from the cruiseline - so now I can see it on my cruise personaliser and I've had this email as well - done deal I think.

Em

[Dennis The Menace]

Speaking as someone who's cruising partner of choice, Lola, is a life size inflatable latex doll that I fill with helium before each cruise, I welcome the smoking on balconies ban for safety reasons alone.

Dennis, you silly boy. Don't you know that they are filled with inert Helium instead of Hydrogen and that they're a lot safer since the Hindenburg. Unless this doll of yours is bigger than that?

QB, all I know is that, on the box she came in, it warns that Lola should not, in any circumstances, be permitted to blow.

I could be mistaken, but I took that to mean that naked flames, and stray dog ends, should be avoided at all costs, especially after inflating her with gas of any description.

Re Lola's size, I'm not sure that's an enquiry you should really be making about a lady now is it !

[emjay45]

DK - I think you've misread Derek's post. He said, " I have no illusions that P&O and other mass-market lines offer 6-star cruising with true gourmond (sic) dining as one would expect from the finest shoresiide (sic) establishments".

Try again...

I agree with you Ann. The MM said exactly that. He most definitely doesn't think P&O are a luxury line but later says they sometimes exceed his expectations.

I've had an official email today about this from the cruiseline - so now I can see it on my cruise personaliser and I've had this email as well - done deal I think.

Em

So there's no point in arguing about it anymore is there

[tractor boy]

Anyone who thinks giving up an addiction overnight after 35 years must be mad, more so when you are forced into it. Those of you who have never smoked, there by the grace blah blah. The comments about B0, cocain etc was light hearted mind you if I keep getting big brother telling me what to do I may turn to heroin. (joke). BUT, drinking in cabins? would not surprise me. The government are now calling for alcohol content in wine being restricted by almost half, believe me, drinking will be the next thing hit, after all, when we stop smoking where are they going to get the revenue from, drinkers, the overweight, car drivers. The general opinion seems to be so English, "so long as it dont affect me I dont care" Wait until they stop you doing what you want

[tractor boy]

also to say I still have not been notified by P&0.