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Re: Blue lights and the correct action to take

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I don't think you're expected to suddenly stop which is why I said I tend to indictate, pull over and stop.
Personally I don't see that reporting them will help and could open up a whole can of worms. Up to you of course.
Actually, reading back you refer to this as a very fast road yet you were going under the 50 mile limit, that in itself could have been frustrating to them.
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Why should it open a can of worms is my question, though you are right of course, so this idiot will go about his business uneducated and unreprimanded unless a report is made.

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Reportring plod is NOT the best idea you've ever had, ' he ' and the driver will naturally invent a different version to yours :shifty:
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Often one of the worst things people do is stop ... they stop on a blind corner or on a hill so that the officer can not safely overtake. You were correct in what you did Helen, if you slow down then you can hold the vehicle up, if it is not safe not pull over then you should not pull over. As one police chase vehicle driver said on TV a while back, the onus is on the emergency vehicle driver to find a way to safely pass, there is however an expectation that the other road users will make it easy for them.


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Hi David,

Hmmmm - tricky situation this, unsure how to put this politely and diplomatically, and absolutely no offence meant (and none taken) - if I say that I have done nothing wrong then believe me, that is precisely the truth of a situation. If I have done something wrong, then I work out what I did wrong, how I could have done it better and then I implement that. I also 'own up' if I have done something wrong. In terms of driving, being especially aware that a vehicle is actually a lethal weapon and not simply a means of transportation, take it as read - I didn't do anything wrong in the situation I described, other than I was a female 'daring' to drive a big fast car. So, sorry David, but I didn't 'think' I had done nothing wrong, I knew I had done nothing wrong.

Getting back to this situation Helen - don't be upset by the actions of this twit who obviously had more time than brains; report him.

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Helen - one other thought - maybe the plod who stopped you had accidentally switched on his blue lights when he repositioned his handbag or hat? Everyone has heard the old old story of the female driver who hung her handbag on the 'choke' kn*b - well maybe it was something similar? If that is the case, then the plod in question definitely needs reporting.

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Policemen are only human. He may have been feeling grumpy, or have had a bad day with traffic offences. On the other hand there will be some who despite training are "up for a fight day and night". Lets face it, we all know a few people who are.

Several years ago, I had my own run in with an officer who was about to arrest me for what he deemd improper use of hazard warning lights until the driver of the hazard intervened. Even then this PC told the man, a taxi driver, to go away and mind his own business. Only when I said "I should say officer that I intend to call that taxi drivr as a witness" did he listen. His final words despite my innocence were "Dont do it again". Just had to have the last word.

There are lots of good friendly police out there though.

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HK phooey wrote:
Thanks all, I thought it was the officer being a p***ock :) Jay, he only turned left to shout at me. I followed him as he did 2 right turns and got back on the road we had been on.
What a p**t. I think he was going for his tea.
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Frank Manning wrote:
Policemen are only human. He may have been feeling grumpy, or have had a bad day with traffic offences. On the other hand there will be some who despite training are "up for a fight day and night". Lets face it, we all know a few people who are.

Several years ago, I had my own run in with an officer who was about to arrest me for what he deemd improper use of hazard warning lights until the driver of the hazard intervened. Even then this PC told the man, a taxi driver, to go away and mind his own business. Only when I said "I should say officer that I intend to call that taxi drivr as a witness" did he listen. His final words despite my innocence were "Dont do it again". Just had to have the last word.

There are lots of good friendly police out there though.


'Policemen are only human. He may have been feeling grumpy'

Only just. And he should be reported for interfering with his partner while on duty. Bl**dy pervert ;)


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You must be psychic Stephen! :lol: :lol:


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Of course there is a possibility that he didn't turn left simply to tell you off, it might have been the way they were going but then had information to go elsewhere. Also, were there other cars that had pulled over to allow him to continue at the maximum speed limit, maybe all the others had. I do wonder, had it been an ambulance or first responder would your actions have been the same. Pulling over rather than slowing down and waiting to turn off could cost valuable seconds. If I had blue lights flashing behind me I would pull over if there was a grass verge or pavement etc. Never would I continue driving under the max speed limit until I came to a turning.

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Wobe, are you a policeman by any chance? There were no other cars visible on the long straight road in front of me. There were no cars coming in the other direction.


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No, what makes you think I'm in the police ?. I'm simply saying that the way you saw things obviously wasn't the way they did.

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Wobgoescruising wrote:
Of course there is a possibility that he didn't turn left simply to tell you off, it might have been the way they were going but then had information to go elsewhere. Also, were there other cars that had pulled over to allow him to continue at the maximum speed limit, maybe all the others had. I do wonder, had it been an ambulance or first responder would your actions have been the same. Pulling over rather than slowing down and waiting to turn off could cost valuable seconds. If I had blue lights flashing behind me I would pull over if there was a grass verge or pavement etc. Never would I continue driving under the max speed limit until I came to a turning.

If this patrol vehicle was displaying a blue flashing light then one must presume they were on an emergency call....pulling over to tell another driver what she should or shouldn’t be doing when seeing a blue flashing light would to my mind be the last thing they should have done, if indeed they were attending an emergency call in the first place.

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All sounds fishy to me.

"Let's stop and give this driver a rollicking.....s*d the emergency call".

The more likely scenario is, they were either late for their break, late finishing their shift or late for the pub.

Knowing an X London transport copper I'd opt for the last one.


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We could go on for ever, but as I said how do we know that when they turned left they hadn't just received info that could have changed things. Time for a word with what they saw as a driver not driving at the speed limit or pulling over when they were obviously on a call. Couple of seconds later another call to go somewhere else. We don't know and we won't know. The police driver that night must have seen events differently, like everything there will be two sides.
Just for the record (!) I have no association with the police, none of my family are in the police, I appreciate there are good cops and bad cops, there are good members of the public who drive and there are rubbish ones, I know the Isle of Wight very well as my other half was born and bred there and my inlaws are still there - in fact they still get excited over the fact they have a Marks & Spencer and a Waitrose !.
With this thread it's not meant personally, I'm purely trying to show that what the driver thought was acceptable didn't seem so to the police driver

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Hi Wobes

You are indeed correct in that no one other than the officers themselves knew what they were thinking but I’m leaning towards Stephens’s version of events as he has an in depth knowledge of the Police service, Magistrates courts and HMS prisons as he spends most of his time in them. :lol: :lol:

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Now, HK - can you advise us of something which is perplexing me.

I suspect that the area in which you reside is not all that big, something of an island - and therefore size might be a factor in this perhaps?

So, as someone has already started to mention (or infer) the Seven Dwarves (aka Grumpy) - I am concerned that all the plod where you live are short?

In the old days plod had to be a minimum height, but maybe where you live this doesn't apply now.

It could be a matter of mistaken identity, and that he (the plod) wasn't Grumpy at all, just Dopey.

Em :D

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Onelife wrote:
Hi Wobes

You are indeed correct in that no one other than the officers themselves knew what they were thinking but I’m leaning towards Stephens’s version of events as he has an in depth knowledge of the Police service, Magistrates courts and HMS prisons as he spends most of his time in them. :lol: :lol:

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Hey Stephen,

Let’s not get Admin involved you know I wouldn’t grass on any of my old cell mates :lol:

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Onelife wrote:
Hey Stephen,

Let’s not get Admin involved you know I wouldn’t grass on any of my old cell mates :lol:

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I personally wouldn't have used the word 'Cell'.

Before you know it there will be a load of black clad bods hammering down your door, coming through your window, roping down the side of your house covering you with red dots.

And they won't be from the local temple asking you to join them for a prayer meeting :)

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