Is cruising too cheap
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Dark Knight
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Is cruising too cheap
has cruising become too cheap and does it still have the cache of days gone by
Discuss
Discuss
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GillD46
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Re: Is cruising too cheap
I do think that many of the Getaway fares have been too cheap - at those prices something has to give - and it has!
We are paying less now than when we started 16 years ago - make of that what you will!
We are paying less now than when we started 16 years ago - make of that what you will!
Gill
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haveabeer
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Re: Is cruising too cheap
At present early booking is not cheap
but late getaway example email today 27th November 2013 Oreana 12 nights balcony £499
but late getaway example email today 27th November 2013 Oreana 12 nights balcony £499
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GillD46
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Re: Is cruising too cheap
It isn't just late bookings that are cheap.
A very similar cruise to our first one is currently on sale for next July at $899pp for an outside cabin. That's 899US$. We did an almost identical itinerary back in July 1997 but it cost us over £1,200pp - and that was without any flights!
A very similar cruise to our first one is currently on sale for next July at $899pp for an outside cabin. That's 899US$. We did an almost identical itinerary back in July 1997 but it cost us over £1,200pp - and that was without any flights!
Gill
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davecttr
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Re: Is cruising too cheap
Solo cruisers certainly do not find cruising cheap. It is cheaper than an equivalent land based holiday but not cheap.
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Jacknian
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Re: Is cruising too cheap
I don't think cruising is too cheap, especially when you have to book early as we do. Oh how I would love to take advantage of deals like the one mentioned by haveabeer, £499 ! Amazing, but we have to book our holidays a year in advance so no chance. Ah well when we retire maybe. If they were much more expensive we'd have to go back to land based holidays.
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Stephen
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Re: Is cruising too cheap
I prefer to describe them as good value rather than cheap.
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Frank Manning
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Re: Is cruising too cheap
Its supply and demand. More and bigger ships equals more Supply, and a recession equals less Demand. Hence Prices fall in real terms to try to stimulate Demand, and so do Margins and the inevitably some quality aspects of the Product.
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towny44
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Re: Is cruising too cheap
Well explained Frank, however with P&O there is still too large a gap between the early booking price and late giveaway deals.Frank Manning wrote:Its supply and demand. More and bigger ships equals more Supply, and a recession equals less Demand. Hence Prices fall in real terms to try to stimulate Demand, and so do Margins and the inevitably some quality aspects of the Product.
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Boris+
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Re: Is cruising too cheap
No, I think it's about right - and there is 'wriggle room' for special offers.
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Frank Manning
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Re: Is cruising too cheap
Yes there is, I guess when the ship is below the break even point for the cruise, they have to fill it somehow.towny44 wrote:Well explained Frank, however with P&O there is still too large a gap between the early booking price and late giveaway deals.Frank Manning wrote:Its supply and demand. More and bigger ships equals more Supply, and a recession equals less Demand. Hence Prices fall in real terms to try to stimulate Demand, and so do Margins and the inevitably some quality aspects of the Product.
Do you still have that fantastic choir in Huddersfield?
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Onelife
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Re: Is cruising too cheap
Hi DK,Dark Knight wrote:has cruising become too cheap and does it still have the cache of days gone by
Discuss
I think the answer lies somewhere here.....
A cruise only becomes too cheap when cruise lines have to make compromises in quality to accommodate these prices.
A cruise only becomes too cheap when those who have paid the headline price feel so aggrieved that they also start waiting for the cheap deals.....those like me who have no choice but to take the headline price are in effect paying the price for/which allows opportunists the opportunity to wait for these cheaper deals.
The whole thing is a total shambles and the sooner cruise lines realise “competitive headline pricing”, combined with a brand that provides for the market they are trying to attract will ultimately keep their ships afloat.
Until this comes to fruition please keep donating to the Onelife cruise fund.
Regards
The soon, not to be Cheese eater.
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Mervyn and Trish
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Re: Is cruising too cheap
I've sent you a cyber pound Onelife.
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Onelife
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Re: Is cruising too cheap
Thanks M&T
You’re moving in the right direction which is more than can be said for most of the tight gits on this forum
Regards
Keith
You’re moving in the right direction which is more than can be said for most of the tight gits on this forum
Regards
Keith
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Stephen
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Re: Is cruising too cheap
Onelife wrote:Thanks M&T
You’re moving in the right direction which is more than can be said for most of the tight gits on this forum![]()
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Regards
Keith
I'd pay just to get rid of you.
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Onelife
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Re: Is cruising too cheap
Stephen,
With slanderous comments like that you could find yourself leaving a lot sooner than me....I’ve got friends who can make people disappear...
MOB...Any chance of a little favour?...Oh! and be very worried if Stephen asks you the same question...I did and look what happened to me
Regards
Keith
With slanderous comments like that you could find yourself leaving a lot sooner than me....I’ve got friends who can make people disappear...
MOB...Any chance of a little favour?...Oh! and be very worried if Stephen asks you the same question...I did and look what happened to me
Regards
Keith
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Stephen
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Re: Is cruising too cheap
Onelife wrote:Stephen,
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With slanderous comments like that you could find yourself leaving a lot sooner than me....I’ve got friends who can make people disappear...
MOB...Any chance of a little favour?...Oh! and be very worried if Stephen asks you the same question...I did and look what happened to me![]()
Regards
Keith
Paul Daniels probably.
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davecttr
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Re: Is cruising too cheap
Which P&O have some difficulty with as they are trying to cater for 3 different markets under the same brand.Onelife wrote:Hi DK,Dark Knight wrote:has cruising become too cheap and does it still have the cache of days gone by
Discuss
I think the answer lies somewhere here.....
A cruise only becomes too cheap when cruise lines have to make compromises in quality to accommodate these prices.
A cruise only becomes too cheap when those who have paid the headline price feel so aggrieved that they also start waiting for the cheap deals.....those like me who have no choice but to take the headline price are in effect paying the price for/which allows opportunists the opportunity to wait for these cheaper deals.
The whole thing is a total shambles and the sooner cruise lines realise “competitive headline pricing”, combined with a brand that provides for the market they are trying to attract will ultimately keep their ships afloat.
Until this comes to fruition please keep donating to the Onelife cruise fund.![]()
Regards
The soon, not to be Cheese eater.
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Posh Child - 2 ships -somewhat more traditional and formal for those who take their 'orftspring' on holiday.
Family Friendly - 2 ships - holidays for everyone, at least those who can afford it. Somewhat hampered by bits of the other two filtering across.
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Dark Knight
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Re: Is cruising too cheap
perhaps a better question would have been
is cruising still a holiday to aspire to ?
is cruising still a holiday to aspire to ?
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Gill W
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Re: Is cruising too cheap
Dark Knight wrote:perhaps a better question would have been
is cruising still a holiday to aspire to ?
I don't actually aspire to cruising anymore, because I'm actually doing it.
But a lot of people that I speak to say they would like to do a cruise one day, so I think there is still something aspirational about it. But most people realise that it's just another holiday choice, and not something only posh people do
Gill
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Manoverboard
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Re: Is cruising too cheap
It isn't too cheap at all ... the price can ' finish up ' at whatever you wish it to be, in our own case in the past 24 months ;
* Two cost effective Getaway deals within the £450 - £800 price range, plus extras, for the Med and Xmas Markets.
* Two very reasonably priced World Sectors, the upgraded flights were the expensive part, one of these cruises was unfortunately cancelled due to Political influence.
* One extremely expensive short duration mini cruise in a Suite to celebrate our 50th Wedding Anniversary with all the trimmings.
The protected else actual costs of these cruises, for the two of us, ranged from fifteen hundred to close on fifteen thousand but they all represented value for money and we were completely satisfied with our choice on all five occasions.
I do not agree therefore that P&O cruises are, or indeed need to be, cheap ... unless you are a tight a*se and want them to be.

* Two cost effective Getaway deals within the £450 - £800 price range, plus extras, for the Med and Xmas Markets.
* Two very reasonably priced World Sectors, the upgraded flights were the expensive part, one of these cruises was unfortunately cancelled due to Political influence.
* One extremely expensive short duration mini cruise in a Suite to celebrate our 50th Wedding Anniversary with all the trimmings.
The protected else actual costs of these cruises, for the two of us, ranged from fifteen hundred to close on fifteen thousand but they all represented value for money and we were completely satisfied with our choice on all five occasions.
I do not agree therefore that P&O cruises are, or indeed need to be, cheap ... unless you are a tight a*se and want them to be.
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Dark Knight
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Re: Is cruising too cheap
moby
I did not say PandO
I asked if cruising was too cheap, there is more to cruising than PandO
I did not say PandO
I asked if cruising was too cheap, there is more to cruising than PandO
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david63
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Re: Is cruising too cheap
Before this question can start to be answered we need to know what is the definition of cheap.
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Dark Knight
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Manoverboard
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Re: Is cruising too cheap
Pure coincidence that they were with P&O, we have also booked one land based coaching tour and two Riverboat Cruises within the same time scale ... my values, as stated, still apply.
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