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Thought this might of interest! Part if an article in The Telegraph today...... Apparently this is what "Black Tie " means. :)



Hair: This should be washed and brushed. Similarly, you should be clean-shaven (unless you always have a beard or moustache). There is no point going to a smart event if your head and face looks like it hasn’t seen a comb or razor in years.

Shirt: A white dress shirt with a turned-down collar is called for with Black Tie. Winged collars, once acceptable, are now the reserve of the White Tie dress code. Dress shirts, which are generally slightly thicker in material, have a marcella or frilled front. Button-down collars are a no-no. Dress shirts can be fastened with buttons or with studs and are double-cuffed.

Bow tie: Black Tie does not mean a black necktie: they are for funerals and downmarket actors. Bow ties should be hand-tied (Her Majesty the Queen is said to be able to spot a ‘fake’, pre-tied bow tie a mile off.) If you cannot tie one, then I suggest you learn.

Jacket: Black, or midnight blue, jackets can be single- or double-breasted with either notched or shawl lapels. Double-breasted jackets (of any variety) often look best on very slim men. Dinner jackets are never fastened when single-breasted. Unlike day suit jackets, dinner jackets have no vents at the back, and the buttons are ‘covered’. White dinner jackets are only acceptable in tropical climates – unless you want to look like the barman.

Pocket square: If you wish to wear a ‘top pocket handkerchief’ then you may do so. In white.

Decorations: Not usually worn to Black Tie events unless the invitation reads ‘decorations’.

Waistcoat: Very rarely seen nowadays but they should be low-cut and worn only with a single-breasted jacket.

Cummerbund: Worn around the waist instead of a waistcoat, cummerbunds are sadly a dying breed. The folds should point upwards.

Braces: Don’t wear a belt, even if hidden by a cummerbund. Instead opt for braces, preferably black, if you need to keep your trousers up.

Trousers: These should match the material of the jacket and are usually tapered slightly with one braid running down the outside of each leg.

Socks: Black silk evening socks are technically correct but these are not widely sold and most people wear conventional black wool or cotton socks.

Shoes: Well-polished, smart black shoes are perfectly acceptable. But if you have black patent leather shoes by all means wear them.

Accessories: Visible timepieces are technically not worn (although a subtle wristwatch is now okay) because Black Tie events are not something in which timekeeping is a priority. White gloves and scarves are a bit OTT nowadays and were only worn when travelling to and from the venue.

This article appears as a blog on the Telegraph website
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Interesting Jay. In particular it is an example of how dress code for a formal event is being 'spun' rather than strictly adhered to ... arguably I suppose it is trying to breathe life into an old fashioned tradition.

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I tend to agree / conform to most of that, however one question arises ....

" Cummerbund: ...... the folds should point upwards ".

Is this to catch any falling food particles ;)
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The OH realises he has been wearing his cummerbund upside down. :roll: Jay
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I dare say he's not the only one :?

Mine is the right way up but more by luck than judgement :lol:
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interesting how many people still wear a wing collar shirt

so 80's :roll: :roll:
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jay-ell71 wrote:
The OH realises he has been wearing his cummerbund upside down. :roll: Jay
I didn't realise there was a right or a wrong way, you learn something everyday, I like the idea of it's to catch crumbs :lol:
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DN ... 1880's ? ;)
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We were at a black tie event last Friday and the number of people who got it wrong was staggering
wing collar shirts, belts, decorations, coloured pre tied bow ties, innapropriate waistcoats etc etc etc

honestly some people looked like they were dressed in the dark by Stevie Wonder, plebs :roll: :lol:
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On board Aurora on New Year's Eve, the dress code published in Horizon speicifed "medals may be worn". I did consider wearing my selection of Peninsular Club badges in a neat row but you will all be heartily relieved to learn I resisted the temptation !!

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I could wear my 25m breast stroke badge ... nothing to do with swimming though

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Interesting Jay, but most folk reading that would roll their eyes (I imagine) at some of the nonesense. :roll:

For instance, not wearing a belt even if covered by a cummerbund....give me strength!

If I ever get an invitation to be in the company of the Queen, then just perhaps I'll check out the archaic rules of etiquette.

Whilst on a P&O cruise however, I'll stick with my belt under my cummerbund (worn the right way round...hurrah) and a wing-collar shirt, pre-tied black bow tie. :oops:

Ps I missed the bit that specifies what type of undies should be worn?? :lol:

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Romig - you don't qualify because of the hair having to be washed and brushed - sorry was that a below the belt remark. M.

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I ain't wearing that lot....I will stick to the buffet.
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My braces are no longer functional. Should I go without a belt and take the risk?

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Romig1 wrote:
Ps I missed the bit that specifies what type of undies should be worn?? :lol:
In an effort to assist, I did a quick Google search and came up with this little gem from the GQ site:


"Underwear with formal attire
I stopped wearing underwear about eight years ago. I found it medieval, constricting and uncomfortable. I had tried all types and couldn’t find a style I liked better than going free. But should I package my boys in social situations where formal attire is expected?

You’ve tried all styles. Have you tried all sizes? Personally, I find that underwear adds to my general comfort and wellbeing. My boxers protect me from scratchy woolens. My briefs protect me in jeans and on horseback. Medieval? Surely it’s the other way around, sir. Have you tried one of those sumo rags? Formality has no bearing on one’s underwear, although I do feel that one’s “boys” should not be in evidence at a black-tie function, except maybe a dressy Bris.


Read More http://www.gq.com/style/style-guy/socks ... z2JSrxiVLH

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I think it was better when they just said "Formal" then described what level of formal they required...I have seen posts with people asking what to wear with the black tie they have..

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I've never seen a "decorations may be worn" on board yet....

I'd feel bit of a prat wearing my LS&NBC (not even sure where it is)
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