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[Gill W]

I read that Teresa May got 120 no confidence votes.

I think that the MP's have less confidence in Johnson than they did in May, so I will go for 144 votes of no confidence.

[Mervyn and Trish]

If the vote is only 52%/48% to get rid, of course it doesn't count and we'll need another vote.

I wouldn't like to guess the number but as it's a secret ballot I'd have a bet that some of those publicly supporting will privately not do so.

[Bensham33]

Why a vote what's he done?

He's signed for Palace. Must have heard they are always tripping themselves up as well!!!

Especially when we play Watford.......just saying

[Mervyn and Trish]

On a different topic there's little more irritating than the US, one of the world's biggest producers of greenhouse gases, heavily committed to fossil fuels, lecturing the world on climate change.

Except maybe Harry and Me-me, who also lectured us on climate change flying in for the Jubillee by private jet. I can only assume all First Class seats on scheduled flights were sold out.

[david63]

we'll need another vote

But unline some other votes there cannot be one for at least a year after this one

[Mervyn and Trish]

we'll need another vote

But unline some other votes there cannot be one for at least a year after this one

I'm confident that if Boris wins this one his critics will be wanting to change the rules. That's how losers work in this country.

[Bensham33]

No it's Johnson who wants to change the rules. Remember his mate, Owen Paterson was it? He wanted to change the rule concerning sleeze.when he got caught. That caused a massive row.

And there's more.

[oldbluefox]

I have no idea how the voting will go but I wonder how much Boris paid Jeremy Hunt to present himself as the future Tory leader.
Much depends on the feelings of the local constituencies and how confident the Tories feel that any successor will be any better than what they already have. They may feel now is not the right time to change leader.

[barney]

I emailed my MP this morning, who I know personally by the way, to encourage her to vote no confidence.
She may be politically aligned to Johnson but she’s about as far away morally as you can get.
She’s a good, honest person.
He’s not.

[towny44]

I read that Teresa May got 120 no confidence votes.

I think that the MP's have less confidence in Johnson than they did in May, so I will go for 144 votes of no confidence.

There are a lot more tory MPs now than when Theresa was PM, so her 120 would equate to 140 for Boris anyway.

[oldbluefox]

Boris wins vote of no confidence.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-60289386

[Kendhni]

I read that Teresa May got 120 no confidence votes.

I think that the MP's have less confidence in Johnson than they did in May, so I will go for 144 votes of no confidence.

Good guess Gill

[Kendhni]

I think this decision by the Tory party shows the cowardice within the party and will cost them the next election. Johnson is totally out of his depth and is the wrong person in the wrong job at the wrong time ... he botches up nearly everything he touches. He has now been granted a year to try to resolve the mess he is responsible for, and given his cabinet has shown they are out of ideas at the very start of an economic crisis (not forgetting Rees Mogg's list of embarrassing nothingness), I see little hope of him turning it around.

In a years time, assuming he is still PM, he may have to face another vote of no confidence ... by that time it will be too late for the Torys to sort themselves out going into another election. So assuming Johnson does not embarrass this country any more, they will probably have to go into the next election with the biggest con man of the 21st century at their helm.

The positive side is that he can stop wasting time on the never-ending diversionary tactics and maybe actually create a policy, instead of winging it and ending up having to continually u-turn as he caves in and adopts Labour policy.

[Gill W]

Good guess Gill

If I was right about that, what else am I right about

Worse than Thatcher in 1990, Johnson is a dead man walking.

The mantra of ‘draw a line under it, move on and deliver on the priorities of the British people’ isn’t going to wash. But I still can’t see Johnson resigning. And so the damaging charade will carry on.

[Onelife]

Good guess Gill

If I was right about that, what else am I right about



I think you have a better average than most on this forum Gill

[Mervyn and Trish]

I'm not sure what Boris's opponents are upset about. If he'd lost tonight the Tories would have elected a new leader with a chance of turning things round and winning the next election. As the Bashers (sorry but the alliteration is just too tempting) are so convinced he is unpopular with the public surely they should be confident that he and his party, that they also despise, will be gone in less than 3 years and be delighted. That is how democracy works surely?

[towny44]

Good guess Gill

If I was right about that, what else am I right about

Worse than Thatcher in 1990, Johnson is a dead man walking.

The mantra of ‘draw a line under it, move on and deliver on the priorities of the British people’ isn’t going to wash. But I still can’t see Johnson resigning. And so the damaging charade will carry on.

I am not sure what your point is with this post Gill, if draw a line under it won't wash, and yet Boris is not going to resign, and he is also safe for 12 months from another confidence vote, what other choice does parliament have but to succumb to at least another year of Boris in charge. You may not like it, however the media, having been fed titbits by labour to try and topple him, will quickly lose the desire to continue printing them, when they realise that, barring ill health, Boris will lead the tories into the next general election, regardless of how badly the govt fare in any intervening by elections.

[Kendhni]

Good guess Gill

If I was right about that, what else am I right about

Worse than Thatcher in 1990, Johnson is a dead man walking.

The mantra of ‘draw a line under it, move on and deliver on the priorities of the British people’ isn’t going to wash. But I still can’t see Johnson resigning. And so the damaging charade will carry on.

One of the problems with Johnson is that, according to many that know him and his past behaviour, he is very vindictive. When he does not get what he wants he will get revenge, and when it involves himself, he will take everyone down with him. I suspect that if he is forced to go he will leave the Tory party unelectable.

One of the interesting stats that came out of this vote is that 75% of MPs not on his payroll voted against him. I suspect there may well be another vote of no confidence in much less than a year, after he has done more damage to the tory party and the electorate ... but then again he is the comeback kid with no shame, no integrity and no empathy.

[Mervyn and Trish]

Since the vote was a secret ballot I wonder how or who came up with that number.

[towny44]

The no confidence rules would need to be amended before there could be another vote inside 12 months, does anyone think Boris will allow that?

[Manoverboard]

Boris came in to do the Brexit job and probably to start moving Government Departments into regions beyond London but the pandemic stepped in and showed his limitations. My guess is that he would be happy to go knowing that he is a tad out of his depth and that his overall popularity is on the wain.

[Stephen]

And no doubt with a nice little earner to fall back on.

[Mervyn and Trish]

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[Mervyn and Trish]

I was slightly baffled by someone I saw interviewed on TV re fuel prices who said they couldn't afford to fill up their car so they'd bought an electric one. Is it just me? Or is there a mystery source of very cheap electric cars??

[Manoverboard]

Went to a well known Dorset country store today, they had a couple of parking spaces allocated to electric charging points. One was blocked by a long van and we were in the other one. Is it any sort of offence to park in an ' electric charge zone ' type parking spot ... asking for a friend