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Unread post by **gravy1955** » 16 Sep 2015, 16:14

Well we didn't really elect a Conservative government.Only 36% voted for Cameron ( they certainly didn't in Scotland).It is just the idiosyncratic nature of our archaic voting system that enabled the Tories to get a majority. Whether you agree with him or not, Corbyn is at least different.He provides you with a definite alternative to the usual Tory-lite policies of the Blairites. He seems to be sincere and genuine in his beliefs and he has some good ideas, some nutty ones as well, but I'm willing to give him a chance.I enjoyed PMQ's today; some intelligent questions and answers and not the yah boo sucks approach you get normally. Give him a chance and then decide whether you like his policies or not but the longer the media bias and sniping at him continues the stronger his support in the country will grow I believe.

Unread post by **qbman1** » 16 Sep 2015, 16:22

oldbluefox wrote:
They all seemed to be playing Happy Families but I wonder how long for. Not sure I liked JC's 'and now we have a question from Hilda of Wigan' style of QT. It all sounded a bit parochial.
' Would anybody like a scone?'
'No thanks vicar'.
When you consider all the important questions which could have been asked I felt it was a bit of a waste to raise the issue of a tiger in need of saving. I'm afraid I will never understand how some questions are chosen for QT.

This made I chuckle!

Unread post by **Mervyn and Trish** » 16 Sep 2015, 17:08

gravy1955 wrote:
Well we didn't really elect a Conservative government.Only 36% voted for Cameron ( they certainly didn't in Scotland).It is just the idiosyncratic nature of our archaic voting system that enabled the Tories to get a majority. Whether you agree with him or not, Corbyn is at least different.He provides you with a definite alternative to the usual Tory-lite policies of the Blairites. He seems to be sincere and genuine in his beliefs and he has some good ideas, some nutty ones as well, but I'm willing to give him a chance.I enjoyed PMQ's today; some intelligent questions and answers and not the yah boo sucks approach you get normally. Give him a chance and then decide whether you like his policies or not but the longer the media bias and sniping at him continues the stronger his support in the country will grow I believe.

Under the current system we did elect a Conservative government. It may be idiosyncrstic and archaic but it is the system we have. I notice that last time Labour were in power under the same system they neither complained nor changed it.

Unread post by **Stephen** » 16 Sep 2015, 18:22

qbman1 wrote:
oldbluefox wrote:
They all seemed to be playing Happy Families but I wonder how long for. Not sure I liked JC's 'and now we have a question from Hilda of Wigan' style of QT. It all sounded a bit parochial.
' Would anybody like a scone?'
'No thanks vicar'.
When you consider all the important questions which could have been asked I felt it was a bit of a waste to raise the issue of a tiger in need of saving. I'm afraid I will never understand how some questions are chosen for QT.
This made I chuckle!

My sense of humour

Unread post by **CaroleF** » 17 Sep 2015, 09:56

Brilliant picture! The consensus this morning seems to be saying that Corbyn's way of doing things was fine for his first performance but it's not something that he can do every time - otherwise I think the MPs who aren't already dozing soon will be. I see Corbyn has appointed a Director of Policy and Rebuttal!

Unread post by **Stephen** » 17 Sep 2015, 10:02

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Unread post by **Frank Manning** » 17 Sep 2015, 15:44

Too late for that! The accident has happened, now the patient needs radical surgery.

Unread post by **gfwgfw** » 17 Sep 2015, 15:56

Hey Ho

I am certainly prepared to give Mr JC a chance

He must have some credibility after the surprising circa 60% support by his peers who voted him leader of Labour party

Graham

Unread post by **Mervyn and Trish** » 17 Sep 2015, 16:37

gfwgfw wrote:
Hey Ho

I am certainly prepared to give Mr JC a chance

He must have some credibility after the surprising circa 60% support by hispeers who voted him leader of Labour party

Graham

Therein lies the clue. A leftie loonie supported by the loonie left.

Unread post by **Raybosailor** » 17 Sep 2015, 22:37

gravy1955 wrote:
Well we didn't really elect a Conservative government.Only 36% voted for Cameron ( they certainly didn't in Scotland).It is just the idiosyncratic nature of our archaic voting system that enabled the Tories to get a majority. Whether you agree with him or not, Corbyn is at least different.He provides you with a definite alternative to the usual Tory-lite policies of the Blairites. He seems to be sincere and genuine in his beliefs and he has some good ideas, some nutty ones as well, but I'm willing to give him a chance.I enjoyed PMQ's today; some intelligent questions and answers and not the yah boo sucks approach you get normally. Give him a chance and then decide whether you like his policies or not but the longer the media bias and sniping at him continues the stronger his support in the country will grow I believe.

So did Hitler gravy, but lets not worry too much Russia has Puten, we could get JC and the USA look like they could finish up with Donald Trump I personally think the old circus clowns were more entertaining.

Unread post by **gravy1955** » 17 Sep 2015, 23:39

Raybosailor wrote:
gravy1955 wrote:
Well we didn't really elect a Conservative government.Only 36% voted for Cameron ( they certainly didn't in Scotland).It is just the idiosyncratic nature of our archaic voting system that enabled the Tories to get a majority. Whether you agree with him or not, Corbyn is at least different.He provides you with a definite alternative to the usual Tory-lite policies of the Blairites. He seems to be sincere and genuine in his beliefs and he has some good ideas, some nutty ones as well, but I'm willing to give him a chance.I enjoyed PMQ's today; some intelligent questions and answers and not the yah boo sucks approach you get normally. Give him a chance and then decide whether you like his policies or not but the longer the media bias and sniping at him continues the stronger his support in the country will grow I believe.
So did Hitler gravy, but lets not worry too much Russia has Puten, we could get JC and the USA look like they could finish up with Donald Trump I personally think the old circus clowns were more entertaining.

Sorry, are you saying you "distrust" Corbyn because he is a politician who expresses sincere and genuine beliefs

I know we've become rather cynical about politicians but that seems rather extreme.I'd rather have Corbyn than politicians like Bliar and his ilk who are all image spin and would do and say anything to cling onto that greasy pole of power?
I have doubts about Corbyn also, but at least he's different and offers people a real alternative and is clearly providing something that people are looking for, just like Trump is in America or Syriza in Greece.

Unread post by **Manoverboard** » 18 Sep 2015, 08:01

gravy1955 wrote:
... I have doubts about Corbyn also, but at least he's different and offers people a real alternative and is clearly providing something that people are looking for, just like Trump is in America or Syriza in Greece.

SOME people is surely much closer to the reality of his attraction, electorally speaking.

Unread post by **Delboy** » 18 Sep 2015, 11:20

Shot down in flames.

Surely as leader of the opposition you should know the questions to ask, and know what is wrong with the economy, out of all the Emails sent in, JC still chose the final 6.

Anybody can just stand and read out EMails.

JC looks amateurish standing there reading from a list, whereas DC did not need a list of answers, he answered off the cuff looking much more professional.

Mind you the demob suit did not help JC, although it was not actually a suit, trousers were a different colour.

Unread post by **gravy1955** » 18 Sep 2015, 11:35

He wasn't "amateurish" just different; that's the point.He isn't the polished media trained "professional" politician with ready"off the shelf" answers like Dave.A lot of the political commentators after PMQ's thought Corby had done well.He certainly changed PMQ's and for once made it relative to issues people want answers to.

Unread post by **Mervyn and Trish** » 19 Sep 2015, 17:53

For someone who is supposed to be principled and different from the rest he already holds the record for the speed of his U turns. By the end of the month he'll be more right wing than the tories

Unread post by **Delboy** » 20 Sep 2015, 00:32

Mervyn and Trish wrote:
For someone who is supposed to be principled and different from the rest he already holds the record for the speed of his U turns. By the end of the month he'll be more right wing than the tories

I think he has no option to U turn, if he does not want to split the Labour Party.

Mind you I think whatever he does, the Labour Party will eventually split in two whilst he is its leader, or a number of its MPs will leave to start a new party or join another party like the Lib Dems or the Greens.

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