J C

[gfwgfw]

Compare yourself to Jeremy Corbyn -‎ is he saint or villain?‎‎

[qbman1]

Depends on your political leanings.

I'd need to know more - like does he smoke, does he reserve sun beds and does he adhere to the dress code on formal nights !!

[Happydays]

Well he did have a suit on yesterday usually he looks scruffy, don't know about the smoking but they do say he is vegetarian!

[qbman1]

Probably knits his own yogurt too then !

[qbman1]

Bet he's not a Goldie either !

[Happydays]

He does hark back to the past and lost causes....

[Stephen]

I heard he's making a pacifist head of defence. Well he might as well, since he's put a vegan in charge of farming.

[qbman1]

First official picture of the new Shadow Cabinet:

[Meg 50]

and he seems to be saying the equivalent of "It was better on Canberra...."

[Mervyn and Trish]

He's probably the best Labour leader since Michael Foot.

[oldbluefox]

He's probably the best Labour leader since Michael Foot.

..... according to the Tory party.

[Manoverboard]

He will, in his new position, have access to Top Secret Security files in spite of being a devotee of Putin, the IRA and the Palestinian resistance groups amongst others .... allegedly.

This being the case then he deffo has the credentials to be a ' Villain '. No way is he a ' Saint ' in my book unless of course he loves footy and supports Southampton FC.

[Mervyn and Trish]

He's probably the best Labour leader since Michael Foot.

..... according to the Tory party.

You spotted my cheek bulging with tongue then.

But seriously he definitely shares Michael Foot's fashion ideas

[gfwgfw]

. . . . and J C had circa 60% support from his voting peers . . . . even the Daily Mail was reasonably blase by the appointment of J C as the Labour Leader

Methinks it may just workout, back to the roots of of of the foundation of true Socialism

[Happydays]

Air heads one and all, debt and more debt......

[gfwgfw]

Air heads one and all, debt and more debt......

Oh yea of little faith

The last J C done a reasonable job, make no mistake about that

Lubooo

Graham

[Stephen]

It will be interesting to see how he performs on his first PM's question time today and if he'll put up a good fight or get shot down in flames.

[Frank Manning]

Unfortunately I fear that poking fun at him and his policies will cut no ice with the far left. It will just harden their attitudes and we will all be put on the lists for the Gulags. Trouble is, I do believe in a need for Trades Unions, and ultimately if reasonable negotiation will not work, then sometimes action is necessary. It is just that many hard left union leaders seem to use strike action to achieve political ends. Those of us with memories remember the Heath government being brought down, and that led to several years of lunatic Labour policies and even more strikes, and eventually Thatcher.

I saw an obituary for Teresa Gorman recently, she was a factor in the failure of John Major's government. So the far right have their loonies too. Both equally dangerous to centreist politics, just in different ways. Some of these people just cant see further than their own bigotries.

[oldbluefox]

Newton had it about right and maybe our political parties should take note - 'For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction'. Whilst I applaud much of what the Tories are doing at the moment to redress some of the mess Blair and Brown left behind (and the more I think about it Blair really did make a monumental hash of it, Brown became his scapegoat) it does not help the country if it is so one-sided. Corbyn is not the answer to Labour's problems, but neither were Liz Kendall, Yvette Cooper and Andy Burnham. There were better potential candidates who, for some reason, elected not to stand at this moment in time.
David Cameron will have to be careful at QT not to savage JC too much for fear of galvanising the Labour backbenchers if they feel he is rubbing their noses in the mess they find themselves in.

[Onelife]

That's a difficult one gfw....l always respect a man/woman who stand by there principles so in that sense l think he is more saint than villian....His downfall will be that there seems to be no flexibility when it comes to how he thinks we should strive for a fairer society and its distribution of wealth.

Regards

Keith

[oldbluefox]

The rhetoric all sounds very nice and utopian but I dread to think about the mess he would leave behind if he ever managed to bring them to fruition. It all sounds very cosy but the reality is very different.

[Mervyn and Trish]

.....many hard left union leaders seem to use strike action to achieve political ends......

And as we comment here some of those unions are talking about action to bring the government down. That is not a proper use of union power.

For all its faults, we live in a democracy and we recently elected a Conservative government. If the lefties didn't like it it's a shame they didn't get off their bottoms to go and cast their vote.

[Stephen]

Well I watched PM's question time which I found both enjoyable and entertaining. It was all fairly polite with the odd amusing moment, as you would expect first time out for a new boy. Like him or not I thought Mr Corbyn did rather well conducting himself and showed no nerves of his environment when asking and replying to questions. He certainly smartened himself up, as I'm sure is expected in such surroundings.

I'm sure the 'New Way' of PM's question time won't last long and the slanging matches will soon resume

[oldbluefox]

They all seemed to be playing Happy Families but I wonder how long for. Not sure I liked JC's 'and now we have a question from Hilda of Wigan' style of QT. It all sounded a bit parochial.
' Would anybody like a scone?'
'No thanks vicar'.
When you consider all the important questions which could have been asked I felt it was a bit of a waste to raise the issue of a tiger in need of saving. I'm afraid I will never understand how some questions are chosen for QT.

[Onelife]

.....many hard left union leaders seem to use strike action to achieve political ends......

And as we comment here some of those unions are talking about action to bring the government down. That is not a proper use of union power.

For all its faults, we live in a democracy and we recently elected a Conservative government. If the lefties didn't like it it's a shame they didn't get off their bottoms to go and cast their vote.

Sir Merv.....l think the lefties did vote it was the millions of disillusioned electorate that didn't. If Corbyn can dodge getting stabbed in the back (doubtful ) then come the next election you could see the disillusioned coming out to vote for someone who they believe will put right the wrongs of this awful conservative party.

I personally would like to see the emergence of a new political party....or the return of David Miliband....the only person who in my opinion could give the defunked labour party any hope of ever being taken seriously again.

Regards

Keith