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[Manoverboard]

Agreed, but the anti Boris brigade will believe it.

Only ' make believe ' surely, they're not simpletons.

Why not? They do seem to possess all the necessary qualities.

I'm not an expert in such matters so I will have to take your word for that

[oldbluefox]

First Northern Germany in the Gutersloh area and now Lisbon I'll let Barry Gardiner and his guinea pigs venture out first to see if the coast is clear. Oddly enough outbreaks in Anglesey and the one in Germany seem to centre around abattoirs. I wonder if there is a link. No doubt the scientists will be aware and looking at it.

[Mervyn and Trish]

I noticed Jenny Harries was back from serving time at the gulag. If Hancock has only one tie, I’m convinced she’s only got one dress. She always seems to wear that green dress.

(No sign of Van Tam, he must be considered beyond redemption at the reprogramming centre! )

Or maybe it was all fake news?

It was a bit of jocularity

Me too

[jacksparrow]

If it may have started in the market in Wuhan then there probably is a food link... Boris is on his platform if I can get a haircut I will be happy...

[Gill W]

If it may have started in the market in Wuhan then there probably is a food link... Boris is on his platform if I can get a haircut I will be happy...

Perhaps Johnson will get a hair cut!

[Mervyn and Trish]

It must be me. Footballers play a match with shirts saying Black Lives Matter.

Someone flies an aeroplane over towing a banner saying White Lives Matter.

The club apologises.

Yes I suspect the motives of the person who hired the aeroplane. But both messages are equally valid.

[Mervyn and Trish]

If it may have started in the market in Wuhan then there probably is a food link... Boris is on his platform if I can get a haircut I will be happy...

Perhaps Johnson will get a hair cut!

[towny44]

If it may have started in the market in Wuhan then there probably is a food link... Boris is on his platform if I can get a haircut I will be happy...

Perhaps Johnson will get a hair cut!

He did admit he would be in the queue for a haircut.

[david63]

Haircuts are back - not only that you can have a pint while you're waiting

[Onelife]

It must be me. Footballers play a match with shirts saying Black Lives Matter.

Someone flies an aeroplane over towing a banner saying White Lives Matter.

The club apologises.

Yes I suspect the motives of the person who hired the aeroplane. But both messages are equally valid.

It was clearly a knee jerk reaction by the club as they wouldn’t have a leg to stand on should the person/s appeal against that decision.

[Manoverboard]

It must be me. Footballers play a match with shirts saying Black Lives Matter.

Someone flies an aeroplane over towing a banner saying White Lives Matter.

The club apologises.

Yes I suspect the motives of the person who hired the aeroplane. But both messages are equally valid.

But not at this moment in time me thinks. On the grround looking up it was viewed as being disrespectful by the Captain of Burnley FC as the plane flew over the Man City ground. Valid therefore but lacking good judgement like wot I thought at the time of watching it live on t'telly.

The banner actually said ' White Lives Matter Burnley ' hence comment from the club even though it was nothing to do with the Club. The report says it was a stunt out of Blackpool, I would add that it's an advertising firm and a place well known for lack of taste.
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[Gill W]

I look at it on the basis of ‘Black Lives Matter’ AS WELL.

We already know that white lives matter. For me, the campaign is saying that black lives matter equally as much as white lives

[david63]

the campaign is saying that black lives matter equally as much as white lives

And what about any other colour lives - do they not matter?

This Black Lives Matter is getting ridiculous - ALL LIVES MATTER - end of.

[oldbluefox]

the campaign is saying that black lives matter equally as much as white lives

And what about any other colour lives - do they not matter?

This Black Lives Matter is getting ridiculous - ALL LIVES MATTER - end of.

[Manoverboard]

the campaign is saying that black lives matter equally as much as white lives

And what about any other colour lives - do they not matter?

This Black Lives Matter is getting ridiculous - ALL LIVES MATTER - end of.

The ideal would surely be ' start of ' to a BLM supporter / protester ?

[Onelife]

the campaign is saying that black lives matter equally as much as white lives

And what about any other colour lives - do they not matter?

This Black Lives Matter is getting ridiculous - ALL LIVES MATTER - end of.

Sorry David…but what is getting “ridiculous” is how some are twisting Gill’s meaning to make a point….it was plaintively obvious where she was coming from or is she supposed to cover every conceivable angle of colour/ethnicity before posting?

[Manoverboard]

the campaign is saying that black lives matter equally as much as white lives

And what about any other colour lives - do they not matter?

This Black Lives Matter is getting ridiculous - ALL LIVES MATTER - end of.

Sorry David…but what is getting “ridiculous” is how some are twisting Gill’s meaning to make a point….it was plaintively obvious where she was coming from or is she supposed to cover every conceivable angle of colour/ethnicity before posting?

Scuse me ... I posted twice stating a similar view as expressed by Gill and one person posted once with a reasonable alternate view. Back seat Moderating does not suit you at all old chum.

Now kindly demonstrate on here or by PM where and how the implied ganging up on Gill occurred.

Regards Moby ....
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[david63]

Sorry David…but what is getting “ridiculous” is how some are twisting Gill’s meaning to make a point….it was plaintively obvious where she was coming from or is she supposed to cover every conceivable angle of colour/ethnicity before posting

I was not referring to Gill's, nor anyone else's, posts - I was referring to this whole business of the Black Lives Matter campaign which has nothing at all to do with anything in this country - it is an American issue. Everyone is jumping on the bandwagon which I do not agree with.

As I said, and I will keep saying it, ALL LIVES MATTER irrespective of colour, creed, gender, sexual orientation or anything else.

[oldbluefox]

Not sure how anybody can argue against ALL LIVES MATTER unless you only look at the issue from a black or white perspective. No life is more equal than any other.

[Manoverboard]

I was not referring to Gill's, nor anyone else's, posts - I was referring to this whole business of the Black Lives Matter campaign which has nothing at all to do with anything in this country - it is an American issue. Everyone is jumping on the bandwagon which I do not agree with.

As I said, and I will keep saying it, ALL LIVES MATTER irrespective of colour, creed, gender, sexual orientation or anything else.

Are you suggesting that all the coloured folk living in this Country get exactly the same deal and opportunity as white UK nationals ... if so then I would not agree with you but if not then it surely does have something to do with this Country.
The original incident in the USA has no connection but the feeling of being an outcast is shared between both Countries.

[Manoverboard]

Not sure how anybody can argue against ALL LIVES MATTER unless you only look at the issue from a black or white perspective. No life is more equal than any other.

Not the lives but lack of life opportunity ... is the reason for the protests or so I now believe.
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[david63]

Are you suggesting that all the coloured folk living in this Country get exactly the same deal and opportunity as white UK nationals

Actually yes I am. But I am not saying that everyone living in this country gets exactly the same deal and opportunity.

There are variances within all groups, be they coloured or white. There are some (many?) coloured people in this country that have a better "deal" than many white UK nationals and equally the opposite exists.

[Onelife]

Sorry David…but what is getting “ridiculous” is how some are twisting Gill’s meaning to make a point….it was plaintively obvious where she was coming from or is she supposed to cover every conceivable angle of colour/ethnicity before posting

I was not referring to Gill's, nor anyone else's, posts - I was referring to this whole business of the Black Lives Matter campaign which has nothing at all to do with anything in this country - it is an American issue. Everyone is jumping on the bandwagon which I do not agree with.

As I said, and I will keep saying it, ALL LIVES MATTER irrespective of colour, creed, gender, sexual orientation or anything else.

And what about any other colour lives - do they not matter?

I’m sure everyone will interpret each post differently……I interpreted the above sentence as a criticism…you asked a pointed question that leaves the impression Gill might not have thought “others live matter” which was out of context to the point she was making…. what gives you the right to think that?

[barney]

It does appear that it is no longer acceptable to be purely non racist.
You now have to be anti racist, otherwise you are a racist.
My life bares no resemblance to what is going on in cities and urban areas.
We may as well be living in a different country.
So, while never being knowingly racist, I absolutely refuse to play the game of semantics.
As far as I’m concerned, every life is of equal value.

Last year, you couldn’t move for Greta Thunberg.
This year it’s BLM.
Next year ? Watch this space?

[oldbluefox]

It kicked off with the death of a black man in America but has now been taken over by something totally different so the term Black Lives Matter becomes rather incongruous.
If we are talking about equal opportunity then there could be a debate to be had although when you consider that no more than 15% of the country are BAME the question of black equality does become more grey than black or white. Black representation in the media is quite high, very high in football and there are many faces of colour in our parliament. It's not perfect in all aspects of life but life isn't fair either no matter what colour you are. However these are areas which can be worked upon and provide scope for improvement. The scenes seen three weeks ago do nothing to promote this cause apart from alienating middle Britain who would otherwise be sympathetic.