Indicators - what are they for ????
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Jan Rosser
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Indicators - what are they for ????
I almost lost the will to live whilst out in the car today - do some people even know they have indicators and that they are allowed to use them
Roundabouts seem to be a particular problem and turning left at traffic lights and if they are on a mobile phone as well I really see red (you wouldn't want to hear what I "say" to them) 
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Re: Indicators - what are they for ????
Many years ago the deputy chief driving examiner advised me that the only thing I could rely on when someone indicated was that the bulb was working!
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I can remember living abroad for a while, and I was horrified at the lack of indication given by local drivers.
I always think that driving standards over here are pretty good - except that I know a woman who thinks that anything which 'protudes' in her car is something to hang her bag or mobile phone on! Well, at least she hasn't got a choke kn*b to utilise, or else she'd never get going in the first place!
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I always think that driving standards over here are pretty good - except that I know a woman who thinks that anything which 'protudes' in her car is something to hang her bag or mobile phone on! Well, at least she hasn't got a choke kn*b to utilise, or else she'd never get going in the first place!
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Sorry, which switch is that?Jan Rosser wrote:I almost lost the will to live whilst out in the car today - do some people even know they have indicators and that they are allowed to use themRoundabouts seem to be a particular problem and turning left at traffic lights and if they are on a mobile phone as well I really see red (you wouldn't want to hear what I "say" to them)
But seriously, I agree. Some people appear to think the purpose of the indicator is to show which way they have just turned!
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Non indication is pure laziness. I'm quite good at indicating at other drivers though who think they can do as they please.........\/..........with an up and a down
As far as the driving standard in this country goes I personally think it's appalling. And don't get me started on Zebra crossings or some of the newer cars that have this stupid lighting system where the back lights are on but not the fronts. What's that all about.
As far as the driving standard in this country goes I personally think it's appalling. And don't get me started on Zebra crossings or some of the newer cars that have this stupid lighting system where the back lights are on but not the fronts. What's that all about.
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We had a really interesting talk at yesterday's Rotary Club ladies evening. It was by a forensic investigator from Traffic Police. He over ran by almost 35 minutes, but we were spellbound as he showed us how they establish what actually happened following a crash without taking witness statements into account first.
One of the problems is that people are unwilling to take rsponsibility for what they have done. They do not exhibit anything like the amount of care required in controlling a lethal object in a never ending series of potentially hazardous situations on our roads. Then it is everyone's fault except their own.
Read the police driving manual 'Roadcraft', or the Institute of Advanced Motorists manual 'Advanced Driving, the essential guide'.
I know I always sound so b****y serious, but in this case I really am. Mervyn Trish and Jan are right.
One of the problems is that people are unwilling to take rsponsibility for what they have done. They do not exhibit anything like the amount of care required in controlling a lethal object in a never ending series of potentially hazardous situations on our roads. Then it is everyone's fault except their own.
Read the police driving manual 'Roadcraft', or the Institute of Advanced Motorists manual 'Advanced Driving, the essential guide'.
I know I always sound so b****y serious, but in this case I really am. Mervyn Trish and Jan are right.
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As you say Frank the culprit driver never accepts they are in the wrong.
It always amazes me when the other driver is so obviously at fault for whatever the reason but always give YOU the innocent party the death stare, or worse.
We have a long straight road near us which I don't particularly like driving up and down, purely because other drivers are just so inconsiderate about pulling in and waiting for ten seconds while oncoming traffic passes them on their correct side of the road. How there aren't door mirrors strewn everywhere I don't know.
It always amazes me when the other driver is so obviously at fault for whatever the reason but always give YOU the innocent party the death stare, or worse.
We have a long straight road near us which I don't particularly like driving up and down, purely because other drivers are just so inconsiderate about pulling in and waiting for ten seconds while oncoming traffic passes them on their correct side of the road. How there aren't door mirrors strewn everywhere I don't know.
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Indicators are, it seems, extremely useful to at least one of the ' ancient ladies ' of Sherborne given that one of the species had hers all flashing at the same time at a left into Sainsbury's car park this very morning ... perhaps she left them on in the car park to make it easier to locate her vehicle when she left the store.

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She probably thought the winking light on the dash was a new flirting deviceManoverboard wrote:Indicators are, it seems, extremely useful to at least one of the ' ancient ladies ' of Sherborne given that one of the species had hers all flashing at the same time at a left into Sainsbury's car park this very morning ... perhaps she left them on in the car park to make it easier to locate her vehicle when she left the store.
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Yeah Stephen...... it's common knowledge down your way that you do a lot of flashing whilstStephen wrote:Non indication is pure laziness. I'm quite good at indicating at other drivers though who think they can do as they please.........\/..........with an up and a down![]()
As far as the driving standard in this country goes I personally think it's appalling. And don't get me started on Zebra crossings or some of the newer cars that have this stupid lighting system where the back lights are on but not the fronts. What's that all about.
In your car.......pervert!!
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Not seen that... my car has daytime running lights at the front but not at the back. Were you getting muxed ip?Stephen wrote:some of the newer cars that have this stupid lighting system where the back lights are on but not the fronts. What's that all about.
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I don't think so Alan, but it is possible..............just
I'm sure I saw a car the other day with this odd lighting set up when the weather was bad which made me notice.
I'm sure I saw a car the other day with this odd lighting set up when the weather was bad which made me notice.
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Onelife wrote:Yeah Stephen...... it's common knowledge down your way that you do a lot of flashing whilstStephen wrote:Non indication is pure laziness. I'm quite good at indicating at other drivers though who think they can do as they please.........\/..........with an up and a down![]()
As far as the driving standard in this country goes I personally think it's appalling. And don't get me started on Zebra crossings or some of the newer cars that have this stupid lighting system where the back lights are on but not the fronts. What's that all about.
In your car.......pervert!!![]()
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Re: Indicators - what are they for ????
Can I 'pervert' this thread with a question very loosely (as in dirty macs
) related to flashing?
Hard luck! I'm going to anyway.
Has anyone seen that entertainers number on P&O where they sing a song beginning;
"If I were not a Sailor, a lighthouse I would be; quick flash here quick flack there."
It goes on " Pants down, ....bend over, ....just a little prick"
The whole thing is repreated until all the entertainers have said what they like to be, and are slapping each other, or wielding a large hypodermic.
Is it on line anywhere?
Hard luck! I'm going to anyway.
Has anyone seen that entertainers number on P&O where they sing a song beginning;
"If I were not a Sailor, a lighthouse I would be; quick flash here quick flack there."
It goes on " Pants down, ....bend over, ....just a little prick"
The whole thing is repreated until all the entertainers have said what they like to be, and are slapping each other, or wielding a large hypodermic.
Is it on line anywhere?
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Frank Manning wrote:Can I 'pervert' this thread with a question very loosely (as in dirty macs) related to flashing?
Hard luck! I'm going to anyway.
Has anyone seen that entertainers number on P&O where they sing a song beginning;
"If I were not a Sailor, a lighthouse I would be; quick flash here quick flack there."
It goes on " Pants down, ....bend over, ....just a little prick"
The whole thing is repreated until all the entertainers have said what they like to be, and are slapping each other, or wielding a large hypodermic.
Is it on line anywhere?
Ask Onelife, he's probably got the paper version
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I've seen it on board but not on-lineFrank Manning wrote:Can I 'pervert' this thread with a question very loosely (as in dirty macs) related to flashing?
Hard luck! I'm going to anyway.
Has anyone seen that entertainers number on P&O where they sing a song beginning;
"If I were not a Sailor, a lighthouse I would be; quick flash here quick flack there."
It goes on " Pants down, ....bend over, ....just a little prick"
The whole thing is repreated until all the entertainers have said what they like to be, and are slapping each other, or wielding a large hypodermic.
Is it on line anywhere?
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I think there are several versions Frank. I found this one under 'If I were not upon the sea':
If I were not upon the sea, something else I'd rather be.
If I were not upon the sea, a sargent major me
Happy all day long, and this would be my song,
LEFT-RIGHT, LEFT-RIGHT swing those bloody arms!"
If I were not upon the sea, something else I'd rather be.
If I were not upon the sea, a blackjack dealer me.
Happy all day long, and this would be my song,
"Hit me here, hit me there, twenty-one or bust!"
If I were not upon the sea, something else I'd rather be.
If I were not upon the sea, a tennis player me.
Happy all day long, and this would be my song,
"Balls to you Sir, Balls to you, ma'am, may I serve you now?"
If I were not upon the sea, something else I'd rather be.
If I were not upon the sea, a lady doctor me.
Happy all day long, and this would be my song,
"Strip to waist, take their pulse, show me where it hurts!"
If I were not upon the sea, something else I'd rather be.
If I were not upon the sea, a fluttering flag me. (I said FLAG, lady!)
Happy all day long, and this would be my song,
"Blow me east, blow me west, I like lots of wind!"
If I were not upon the sea, something else I'd rather be.
If I were not upon the sea, a lighthouse keeper me.
Happy all day long, and this would be my song,
"A quick flash here, a quick flash there, see me turn around!"
If I were not upon the sea, something else I'd rather be.
If I were not upon the sea, an undertaker, me.
Happy all day long, and this would be my song,
"Close their eyes, lay them out, shove them in a box!"
If I were not upon the sea, something else I'd rather be.
If I were not upon the sea, a seamstress I would be.
Happy all day long, and this would be my song,
"Half a yard, half a yard, snip it by the inch!"
If I were not upon the sea, something else I'd rather be.
If I were not upon the sea, a ballerina me.
Happy all day long, and this would be my song,
"First position, second position, show my arabesque!"
You will also find a few videos on YouTube like this one
If I were not upon the sea, something else I'd rather be.
If I were not upon the sea, a sargent major me
Happy all day long, and this would be my song,
LEFT-RIGHT, LEFT-RIGHT swing those bloody arms!"
If I were not upon the sea, something else I'd rather be.
If I were not upon the sea, a blackjack dealer me.
Happy all day long, and this would be my song,
"Hit me here, hit me there, twenty-one or bust!"
If I were not upon the sea, something else I'd rather be.
If I were not upon the sea, a tennis player me.
Happy all day long, and this would be my song,
"Balls to you Sir, Balls to you, ma'am, may I serve you now?"
If I were not upon the sea, something else I'd rather be.
If I were not upon the sea, a lady doctor me.
Happy all day long, and this would be my song,
"Strip to waist, take their pulse, show me where it hurts!"
If I were not upon the sea, something else I'd rather be.
If I were not upon the sea, a fluttering flag me. (I said FLAG, lady!)
Happy all day long, and this would be my song,
"Blow me east, blow me west, I like lots of wind!"
If I were not upon the sea, something else I'd rather be.
If I were not upon the sea, a lighthouse keeper me.
Happy all day long, and this would be my song,
"A quick flash here, a quick flash there, see me turn around!"
If I were not upon the sea, something else I'd rather be.
If I were not upon the sea, an undertaker, me.
Happy all day long, and this would be my song,
"Close their eyes, lay them out, shove them in a box!"
If I were not upon the sea, something else I'd rather be.
If I were not upon the sea, a seamstress I would be.
Happy all day long, and this would be my song,
"Half a yard, half a yard, snip it by the inch!"
If I were not upon the sea, something else I'd rather be.
If I were not upon the sea, a ballerina me.
Happy all day long, and this would be my song,
"First position, second position, show my arabesque!"
You will also find a few videos on YouTube like this one
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oldbluefox
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Another alternative I have found.....................
Jockey (guy) ride em here, ride em there, ride them Phillies everywhere
Blackjack dealer (girl) Hit me here, hit me there, 21 or bust
Taxi driver (guy) Drive a taxi, drive a taxi, honk honk honk beep beep
Golfer (girl) head down, arms straight, be sure to follow through
Fitness instructor (girl) bend your knees, arms up, bend and touch your toes.
Chimney sweep (guy) Up the flue, up the flue, 20 times a day
Naughty nurse (girl) Bend over, trousers down, just a little pritzer
Chippendale (guy) grind the hips, stretch the arms, give the girls a thrill
Gardener (girl) pull the weeds, mow the lawn, give the hedge a trim
Ballerina (guy) first position, second position, show your arabesque
Errr? What's this got to do with indicators?
(Sorry Jan, you just can't find moderators when you want them but I blame Keefy Onelife!!!)
Jockey (guy) ride em here, ride em there, ride them Phillies everywhere
Blackjack dealer (girl) Hit me here, hit me there, 21 or bust
Taxi driver (guy) Drive a taxi, drive a taxi, honk honk honk beep beep
Golfer (girl) head down, arms straight, be sure to follow through
Fitness instructor (girl) bend your knees, arms up, bend and touch your toes.
Chimney sweep (guy) Up the flue, up the flue, 20 times a day
Naughty nurse (girl) Bend over, trousers down, just a little pritzer
Chippendale (guy) grind the hips, stretch the arms, give the girls a thrill
Gardener (girl) pull the weeds, mow the lawn, give the hedge a trim
Ballerina (guy) first position, second position, show your arabesque
Errr? What's this got to do with indicators?
I was taught to be cautious
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Manoverboard
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Everything, it ' indicates ' your preferencesoldbluefox wrote:.. Errr? What's this got to do with indicators?(Sorry Jan, you just can't find moderators when you want them ...
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Jan Rosser
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Re: Indicators - what are they for ????
I seem to have been well and truly "hijacked" as "indicated" by the previous posts - no problem 
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I have to admit if I am at a junction I don't always indicate.
It makes no difference to those behind me because they are going nowhere until I move off, and those on the road I am joining are not affected anyway.
However I do indicate if changing direction or signalling my intentions at a roundabout, especially if it is busy. It's b***y annoying when you are sat at a junction, or at a roundabout waiting for a gap in the traffic which you miss because some idle so and so turns off without indicating.
The ones who irk me are those who ride along the middle of the road, often admiring the view as an added annoyance, thus preventing you from seeing past them and making overtaking a more risky business than it need be. When you do decide to go they accelerate as well. Alternatively they crawl along the bits where you can't overtake but put their foot down when they come to a straight bit!! Beware of old men in flat caps!!!
(Before Mob says it, no I don't have a flat cap, or ferrets!!!
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However I do indicate if changing direction or signalling my intentions at a roundabout, especially if it is busy. It's b***y annoying when you are sat at a junction, or at a roundabout waiting for a gap in the traffic which you miss because some idle so and so turns off without indicating.
The ones who irk me are those who ride along the middle of the road, often admiring the view as an added annoyance, thus preventing you from seeing past them and making overtaking a more risky business than it need be. When you do decide to go they accelerate as well. Alternatively they crawl along the bits where you can't overtake but put their foot down when they come to a straight bit!! Beware of old men in flat caps!!!
(Before Mob says it, no I don't have a flat cap, or ferrets!!!
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Take a look at: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-t ... l-30134677oldbluefox wrote:The ones who irk me are those who ride along the middle of the road, often admiring the view as an added annoyance, thus preventing you from seeing past them and making overtaking a more risky business than it need be. When you do decide to go they accelerate as well. Alternatively they crawl along the bits where you can't overtake but put their foot down when they come to a straight bit!! Beware of old men in flat caps!!!
(Before Mob says it, no I don't have a flat cap, or ferrets!!!)
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It's clowns like him that cause accidents. Unfortunately they are more common than we realise, much as middle lane hoggers on the motorway.
Personally if I have someone on my tail who clearly wants to go past me I am happy to pull over to one side when it is safe to do so and let them past. I'm glad to be rid of them and they are grateful to hurry on their way.
Personally if I have someone on my tail who clearly wants to go past me I am happy to pull over to one side when it is safe to do so and let them past. I'm glad to be rid of them and they are grateful to hurry on their way.
I was taught to be cautious
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Lane hoggers should be shot on sight.
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Stephen wrote:Lane hoggers should be shot on sight.
...with a bow and arrow. You can re-use arrows.
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